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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 02:05 AM
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52. Won't matter. All of Hillary's talk about how voters don't count will come back to bite her.
Hard. She won't be able to make any case whatsoever without drowning in her own hypocrisy.
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  -Who "would" you (as a SD) support if HRC wins the Popular Vote but BHO wins the Delegate Count? zerostar  Apr-04-08 11:01 PM   #0 
  - Clinton won't win the popular vote. I don't see this happening. nt  babylonsister   Apr-04-08 11:02 PM   #1 
  - read my post  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:04 PM   #4 
  - Let's assume the Sun rises in the West tomorrow.....  bilgewaterbill   Apr-04-08 11:09 PM   #17 
  - I agree. There's simply no practical way for her to close the gap.  TheWraith   Apr-04-08 11:05 PM   #5 
  - And this seems to be a fact that is totally ignored - I've never  JeanGrey   Apr-04-08 11:24 PM   #34 
  - Actually, from...  DemVet   Apr-05-08 08:50 AM   #60 
  - Better question... (what I really meant)...  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:03 PM   #2 
  - Replied to wrong post...sorry  MaineDem   Apr-05-08 10:25 AM   #64 
  - Obama...see this post....  KansasVoter   Apr-04-08 11:04 PM   #3 
  - I am assuming he will not have 2025 delegates...  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:06 PM   #9 
  - Well, in that case, I'd have to go with ...  frazzled   Apr-04-08 11:05 PM   #6 
  - It's a delegate race. When you change the rules midstream it's not fair  Skwmom   Apr-04-08 11:05 PM   #7 
  - And the same rules say that the pledged delegates don't decide the race (eom)  StevieM   Apr-04-08 11:16 PM   #28 
  - Who's changing the rules?  Lirwin2   Apr-05-08 12:32 AM   #45 
     - The issue is not whether SDs can it is whether they should overturnthe voters esp. AA voters AND new  rosebud57   Apr-05-08 10:39 AM   #68 
        - The entire delegate process is undemocratic, but Obama supporters didn't seem to complain when  Lirwin2   Apr-05-08 11:16 PM   #71 
  - The contest is for delegates. n/t  Zueda   Apr-04-08 11:05 PM   #8 
  - Say it with me now - there is no accurate popular vote total  BlueIdaho   Apr-04-08 11:06 PM   #10 
  - The Rules Were Set, We Are Electing Delegates  sandnsea   Apr-04-08 11:06 PM   #11 
  - Teh stupid! It burns!  BlooInBloo   Apr-04-08 11:07 PM   #12 
  - Unlikely she'll have more votes. The vote winner should be nominee. Bush won without the votes.  onehandle   Apr-04-08 11:07 PM   #13 
  - There is NO SUCH THING as a "popular vote" in a Primary Season including caucuses  cryingshame   Apr-04-08 11:08 PM   #14 
  - Exactamente. Caucuses proportionally represent a vaster number of people.  PseudoIntellect   Apr-05-08 02:08 AM   #54 
     - To say that caucuses proportionately represent a vaster number of people is blatantly false  StevieM   Apr-05-08 04:24 AM   #55 
        - Caucuses are fair game. Whoever can rally the best for enthusiastic supporters will win them.  PseudoIntellect   Apr-05-08 03:10 PM   #70 
        - Irrelevant argument  wileedog   Apr-05-08 11:20 PM   #72 
  - We're Democrats.. we play by the rules.  C_U_L8R   Apr-04-08 11:08 PM   #15 
  - No, the nominee is NOT necessarily  MonkeyFunk   Apr-05-08 04:40 AM   #56 
     - This may be helpful - the official rule books for your enlightenment  C_U_L8R   Apr-05-08 07:15 AM   #59 
     - Don't be sneaky  MonkeyFunk   Apr-05-08 10:21 AM   #63 
     - Horseshit  wileedog   Apr-05-08 11:25 PM   #73 
  - Pelosi already set the guidelines for this.  Life Long Dem   Apr-04-08 11:08 PM   #16 
  - Not new rules, new decisions  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:11 PM   #20 
  - It's all the delegates, not just some. Pelosi is an Obama supporter--and she doen't get to set  StevieM   Apr-04-08 11:18 PM   #31 
  - No Shit.  Life Long Dem   Apr-05-08 12:27 AM   #41 
  - Pelosi doesn't set any guidelines or rules  MonkeyFunk   Apr-05-08 04:41 AM   #57 
  - Except that Pelosi doesn't have jack squat to say about the process.  DemVet   Apr-05-08 08:52 AM   #62 
  - The thing "done to Gore"...  Zueda   Apr-04-08 11:09 PM   #18 
  - Who is the winner of the football game, the team with the most points or most yards?  stahbrett   Apr-04-08 11:11 PM   #19 
  - Likely!!?????  gristy   Apr-04-08 11:11 PM   #21 
  - I said "Very Likely".  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:16 PM   #26 
  - I will support the nominee  McCamy Taylor   Apr-04-08 11:11 PM   #22 
  - Loaded question, isn't it?  Asgaya Dihi   Apr-04-08 11:13 PM   #23 
  - Please re-read my OP, I am an idiot for not making it clear! n/t  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:15 PM   #24 
     - No - you're not an idiot. You were very clear in your OP - it's just  pirhana   Apr-05-08 12:30 AM   #44 
  - If The Popular Vote Mattered In The Primaries  Yavin4   Apr-04-08 11:16 PM   #25 
  - It's decided by delegate count. You know this and still propped up this canard...why?  Snarkoleptic   Apr-04-08 11:16 PM   #27 
  - Check my voting history bud before you throw allegations.  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:19 PM   #32 
     - Gonna edit your post again to duck controversy and reposition yourself.  Snarkoleptic   Apr-04-08 11:32 PM   #36 
  - Loaded hypothetical. The popular vote was never a calculation at the beginning of the primary season  GarbagemanLB   Apr-04-08 11:17 PM   #29 
  - It's again, moving the goal posts. I don't think it will matter. The  babylonsister   Apr-05-08 12:29 AM   #43 
  - Whoever the super delegates decide on.  billyoc   Apr-04-08 11:17 PM   #30 
  - If I was a Superdelegate, I'd rely on the delegate count  maximusveritas   Apr-04-08 11:21 PM   #33 
  - THANK YOU!  zerostar   Apr-04-08 11:25 PM   #35 
     - I think the pledged delegate difference would have to be very close  maximusveritas   Apr-05-08 12:22 AM   #40 
  - Whomever can win the GE is the best candidate.Obama loses Florida .He must step aside  MojoMojoMojo   Apr-04-08 11:36 PM   #37 
  - Unless you employ logic and reason to arrive at the natural conclusion that Hillary is Screwn.  Snarkoleptic   Apr-04-08 11:41 PM   #38 
  - This is a delegate race, period. n/t  stevietheman   Apr-04-08 11:47 PM   #39 
  - To me, the person who wins the popular vote should be the winner.  pirhana   Apr-05-08 12:28 AM   #42 
  - I would support the winner of the delegate count.  Blondiegrrl   Apr-05-08 12:32 AM   #46 
  - This popular vote meme is false - many caucuses don't count the number of voters.  AZBlue   Apr-05-08 12:32 AM   #47 
  - I think they'll be swayed by more than one different thing.  FlyingSquirrel   Apr-05-08 12:35 AM   #48 
  - Here is my best unbiased guess...  quantass   Apr-05-08 12:40 AM   #49 
  - As a SD, Obama purely for the money he has avaiable to campaign  Political Heretic   Apr-05-08 12:42 AM   #50 
  - he's up by 815,000 votes  johnnydrama   Apr-05-08 02:04 AM   #51 
  - My thoughts exactly  hnmnf   Apr-05-08 04:50 AM   #58 
  - Won't matter. All of Hillary's talk about how voters don't count will come back to bite her.  anonymous171   Apr-05-08 02:05 AM   #52 
  - who else except "the will of the people"?  ElsewheresDaughter   Apr-05-08 02:07 AM   #53 
  - Hasn't happened = not going to worry about it.  cornermouse   Apr-05-08 08:51 AM   #61 
  - Since it's impossible to determine the popular vote...  MaineDem   Apr-05-08 10:28 AM   #65 
  - Obama.  mmonk   Apr-05-08 10:29 AM   #66 
  - don't see her winning popular vote. PA is closing, Obama has big lead in NC  book_worm   Apr-05-08 10:31 AM   #67 
  - The nomination rules set total delegates as the standard...  Sir Jeffrey   Apr-05-08 11:02 AM   #69 
 

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