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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 11:53 AM
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40. Done-K&R
I may not like what you say but I will fight to my death for your right to say it. Democrats should never fight to silence free speech in this country. I thought what Don Imus said was foul and disgusting, but I couldn't support firing him for saying it. I supported the advertisers dropping him, pundits refusing to go on his program and listeners turning his show off. That is you fight for change, not asking for him to be fired. Every one has the right to be as dumb as they want in this country. No one makes you listen to them. Do you want to change that? Either you believe in free speech or you don't. Period.
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  -Those of you who want Randi Rhodes back on the air... backscatter712  Apr-04-08 11:05 AM   #0 
  - Oh thank you  ampad   Apr-04-08 11:07 AM   #1 
  - Yes, I was thrilled to learn her suspension will be indefinite..  Tellurian   Apr-04-08 11:09 AM   #2 
  - that's just stupid  Royal Oak Rog   Apr-04-08 11:28 AM   #19 
  - What's wrong with you Hillary people - free speech is there to protect speech that we find  Emillereid   Apr-04-08 11:47 AM   #34 
     - This has nothing to do with free speech  Nederland   Apr-04-08 12:04 PM   #45 
     - They weren't paying for the gig.  Emillereid   Apr-04-08 12:48 PM   #53 
     - Doesn't matter  Nederland   Apr-04-08 01:11 PM   #60 
     - oh so she is a public  gort   Apr-04-08 01:25 PM   #62 
     - Are you daft? This has absolutley NOTHING to do with rights or free speech  dbaker41   Apr-04-08 01:43 PM   #65 
     - did I Insult you?  gort   Apr-04-08 03:06 PM   #71 
     - Again, we're not talking about libel. We're talking about an employer  dbaker41   Apr-06-08 09:46 AM   #136 
        - funny how  shellgame26   Apr-10-08 04:41 AM   #143 
     - Clients?  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:39 AM   #109 
     - What is so hard to understand?  Nederland   Apr-04-08 03:19 PM   #72 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-05-08 08:41 AM   #111 
        - I can't find a "Spring Randi from Jail" fund anywhere!!!  prodn2000   Apr-05-08 09:05 AM   #125 
        - You will NEVER get your point across to some in this forum.  polmaven   Apr-05-08 09:00 AM   #122 
           - it's not about the level of disgust  hfojvt   Apr-08-08 04:00 PM   #138 
     - Randi was hired by AAR to express her political opinions.  baldguy   Apr-04-08 01:31 PM   #63 
     - Nothing is wrong with this picture  Nederland   Apr-04-08 03:25 PM   #73 
     - People are being fired because they lean D/Progressive/Liberal...  rasputin1952   Apr-04-08 03:32 PM   #76 
     - Answer the question  Nederland   Apr-04-08 03:39 PM   #77 
        - Depends on the contract that was signed...  rasputin1952   Apr-04-08 04:46 PM   #81 
        - What's wrong you?  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:44 AM   #113 
           - Nothing is wrong with me  Nederland   Apr-05-08 10:17 AM   #130 
     - If you agree with what happen  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:43 AM   #112 
     - political opinions...  polmaven   Apr-05-08 09:04 AM   #124 
     - That's what freedom of speech is about - you get to say things your employer doesn't like!  Emillereid   Apr-04-08 01:46 PM   #67 
        - Wrong  Nederland   Apr-04-08 03:29 PM   #74 
           - I don't think AAR was funding the event -- it was an AAR affiliate station.  Emillereid   Apr-04-08 03:54 PM   #78 
           - Doesn't matter  Nederland   Apr-04-08 04:09 PM   #79 
              - Except Randi is their number 1 host and I for one won't listen to AAR without her.  Emillereid   Apr-04-08 05:09 PM   #82 
           - AAR should also prepare to  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:46 AM   #114 
              - maybe Rhodes was already costing AAR "liberal and  paulk   Apr-05-08 10:11 AM   #128 
              - Yes they should  Nederland   Apr-05-08 10:12 AM   #129 
     - yes they were. They paid her airfare and the hotel room. nt  Mezzo   Apr-05-08 07:53 AM   #103 
        - Actually, Randi's expenses were not paid by AAR. She mentioned this on air before the event. n/t  Garbo 2004   Apr-05-08 04:28 PM   #134 
     - Losing your job for airing criticism of a political candidate  Cleita   Apr-05-08 04:37 PM   #135 
     - Free speech?  lefty from jersey   Apr-04-08 03:32 PM   #75 
     - Agreed....well said.  DemVet   Apr-04-08 06:03 PM   #86 
     - If some one called Michelle Obama a whore you  sallyseven   Apr-04-08 06:01 PM   #83 
     - I'd be pissed, but the difference is I wouldn't take her job away from her. n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-04-08 06:13 PM   #89 
     - That's because  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:30 AM   #105 
  - No problem.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 11:13 AM   #4 
  - Responsible speech  RememberWellstone   Apr-04-08 11:13 AM   #3 
  - Sorry, but some of us believe in free speech.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 11:17 AM   #7 
  - Both ways?  hill_win_2008   Apr-04-08 11:23 AM   #12 
  - Ho has only one meaning  WilyWondr   Apr-04-08 11:31 AM   #24 
  - Where is the book burning forum?  followthemoney   Apr-04-08 12:04 PM   #46 
  - Yes - we have a perfect fit!!!  TriplePlay   Apr-04-08 12:59 PM   #56 
  - This had nothing to do with Imus  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:52 AM   #116 
  - Either you believe in free speech or you don't  leftynyc   Apr-04-08 11:29 AM   #22 
  - Exactly. Unless there's free speech for everyone, there is free speech for no one. n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-04-08 06:38 PM   #94 
  - That's not true...  cricket08   Apr-04-08 11:31 AM   #25 
  - Whore is not a sexual remark.  gal   Apr-04-08 12:10 PM   #47 
  - Yes it is.  sallyseven   Apr-04-08 06:01 PM   #84 
     - What do you think "whore" means?  WilyWondr   Apr-04-08 06:10 PM   #87 
  - How is it sexist if it came from another female?  gal   Apr-04-08 12:11 PM   #48 
  - Sharpton has spoken!!!  shagsak   Apr-04-08 12:40 PM   #52 
  - She does not  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:54 AM   #117 
  - How is "fucking whore"  MonkeyFunk   Apr-04-08 01:05 PM   #57 
  - because context is everything  gort   Apr-04-08 01:32 PM   #64 
  - If Imus was more offensive, that proves YOUR point.  dbaker41   Apr-04-08 01:45 PM   #66 
  - Do you own a dictionary?  WilyWondr   Apr-04-08 11:20 AM   #8 
  - Whore - "A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain"  phrigndumass   Apr-04-08 11:22 AM   #11 
  - Indeed. Context is everything.  Webster Green   Apr-04-08 11:29 AM   #21 
  - He was on the air for his employer.....  Hepburn   Apr-04-08 11:27 AM   #18 
  - She was not on the air ......  kevinmc   Apr-04-08 11:54 AM   #41 
  - I agree...  Hepburn   Apr-04-08 12:01 PM   #44 
  - Sorry. The 1st Amendment only applies to the State.  dbaker41   Apr-04-08 01:49 PM   #69 
  - Respectfully...  BlueIdaho   Apr-04-08 11:28 AM   #20 
  - A-fucking-men!  Hepburn   Apr-04-08 11:32 AM   #27 
  - Respectfully...  Nederland   Apr-04-08 01:16 PM   #61 
  - All politicians are whores.  Breeze54   Apr-04-08 11:30 AM   #23 
  - You're the same one who wanted Obama to force YouTube to remove the "Obama Girl" video  Paint It Black   Apr-04-08 11:43 AM   #31 
  - Your stupid  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:51 AM   #115 
  - Depends on Who The Politician Is  otohara   Apr-04-08 11:15 AM   #5 
  - Public officials are open to ridicule and scrutiny. Even GWB accepts that.Her wording was "sell out"  cooolandrew   Apr-04-08 11:15 AM   #6 
  - Comparing this to Imus is also wrong as he clearly meant the word in its orginal form Randi meant  cooolandrew   Apr-04-08 11:23 AM   #13 
  - Done....  Hepburn   Apr-04-08 11:20 AM   #9 
  - Did you do the same for Imus?  goldcanyonaz   Apr-04-08 11:21 AM   #10 
  - Imus' comments were racist as well as sexist. Rhodes' were insulting to corporate sell-outs.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 11:23 AM   #14 
     - Your selected outrage is noted. Plonk to you too.  goldcanyonaz   Apr-04-08 11:24 AM   #15 
     - I wouldn't even bother arguing with ignore  ampad   Apr-04-08 11:27 AM   #17 
        - Yeah. This isn't about what she said.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 11:31 AM   #26 
           - We cannot afford to lose another progressive voice  ampad   Apr-04-08 11:47 AM   #35 
  - Clinton was also criticized for his promiscuous solicitation of campaign money  Life Long Dem   Apr-04-08 11:24 AM   #16 
  - A true progressive would not stand for this  ampad   Apr-04-08 11:34 AM   #29 
  - Done  nathan hale   Apr-04-08 11:33 AM   #28 
  - Done. God I didn't realize how much I need her daily rants - gets my blood up and makes me feel  Emillereid   Apr-04-08 11:39 AM   #30 
  - Thank you.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 11:49 AM   #36 
  - I don't listen to her, but she still should be able to say what she wants...  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-04-08 06:36 PM   #93 
  - I don't think she said anything wrong at all.  Usrename   Apr-04-08 11:47 AM   #32 
  - Reality check!  mooseprime   Apr-04-08 11:47 AM   #33 
  - Exactly.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 11:55 AM   #42 
  - Not Really a Free Speech Issue  OutNow   Apr-04-08 11:50 AM   #37 
  - Exactly  Nederland   Apr-04-08 12:00 PM   #43 
  - Thank you! Done!  ClayZ   Apr-04-08 11:51 AM   #38 
  - I already did it yesterday.  FlaGranny   Apr-04-08 11:52 AM   #39 
  - Done-K&R  liberaldem4ever   Apr-04-08 11:53 AM   #40 
  - Not a Sexist remark!!!  gal   Apr-04-08 12:16 PM   #49 
  - (NT)  ampad   Apr-04-08 12:27 PM   #50 
  - Sent. Want Randi back ASAP. Thanks for link  WA98296   Apr-04-08 12:29 PM   #51 
  - Thank you!  AZBlue   Apr-04-08 12:51 PM   #54 
  - Thank you!  AZBlue   Apr-04-08 12:51 PM   #55 
  - I've sent my request to get Randi back on the air.  azmouse   Apr-04-08 01:05 PM   #58 
  - I also sent my request  wrando   Apr-05-08 08:40 AM   #110 
  - .  crispini   Apr-04-08 01:09 PM   #59 
  - The less Randi, the better we all are.  AX10   Apr-04-08 01:49 PM   #68 
  - I took you off ignore this week.. but  Moochy   Apr-04-08 06:19 PM   #92 
  - Then don't listen to her. I don't, but others should be able to if they want. n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-04-08 06:39 PM   #95 
  - Don't be so sore  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:35 AM   #107 
  - Shameless self-promotion kick again.  backscatter712   Apr-04-08 02:00 PM   #70 
  - By all means, those of you who do want R. Rhodes back...  2_CentsWorth   Apr-04-08 04:24 PM   #80 
  - Free Speech has NOTHING to do with this.  DemVet   Apr-04-08 06:02 PM   #85 
  - She was doing HER JOB.  file83   Apr-04-08 10:04 PM   #96 
  - It wasn't her employer's event. Fundraiser for KKGN (not owned by AAR), expenses not pd by AAR. nt  Garbo 2004   Apr-04-08 11:31 PM   #100 
  - KKGN, an Air America affiliate  DemVet   Apr-05-08 08:59 AM   #120 
     - The event was not sponsored or paid for by AAR. KKGN is also a Jones Network affiliate & owned by  Garbo 2004   Apr-05-08 02:02 PM   #133 
  - Oh yes it has something to do with it  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:33 AM   #106 
  - Her picture is no longer on the page where you log in to listent to live stream. Sigh... n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-04-08 06:11 PM   #88 
  - Thank you K&R  SunsetDreams   Apr-04-08 06:14 PM   #90 
  - K&R!  Moochy   Apr-04-08 06:15 PM   #91 
  - K & R to stop the hypocrisy  file83   Apr-04-08 10:06 PM   #97 
  - Anybody know where the video can be found?  krkaufman   Apr-04-08 10:50 PM   #98 
  - You're right. It was on DU, but was pulled from YouTube. But they missed this one... :-)  Rhiannon12866   Apr-05-08 07:51 AM   #102 
     - Here's the video, hosted on the Green960 website  krkaufman   Apr-05-08 09:08 AM   #126 
        - Very cool! Thanks! My FIXED News video only had the operant clip,  Rhiannon12866   Apr-05-08 09:25 AM   #127 
  - Thanks for this  bagimin   Apr-04-08 11:23 PM   #99 
  - K&R. Thank you. Sam Seder addressed this yesterday when he was in for Randi.  Rhiannon12866   Apr-05-08 07:45 AM   #101 
  - No more whores for Obama  wrando   Apr-05-08 07:57 AM   #104 
  - I want her back on the air, I believe in free speech, but I don't  dogday   Apr-05-08 08:37 AM   #108 
  - Put her back on the air  liberal1973   Apr-05-08 08:55 AM   #118 
     - It is up to AAR and what is in her contract... I love Randi  dogday   Apr-05-08 08:58 AM   #119 
  - Just wrote to them  chyjo   Apr-05-08 09:00 AM   #121 
  - I wrote them a Thank You note for the suspension  rodeodance   Apr-05-08 09:03 AM   #123 
  - I wish I could agree  OneDemsConscience   Apr-05-08 10:31 AM   #131 
  - Welcome to DU, OneDemsConscience!  Rhiannon12866   Apr-05-08 10:44 AM   #132 
  - ALSO ... Email  TriggerGal   Apr-08-08 03:33 PM   #137 
     - Look for an update tomorrow  chrispossible   Apr-08-08 06:09 PM   #139 
        - GREEN 960 Video  TriggerGal   Apr-10-08 04:26 AM   #140 
           - Seems like a long time ago, America forgot what America was supposed to stand for.  Major Hogwash   Apr-10-08 04:34 AM   #141 
              - The Green 960 video proves it  TriggerGal   Apr-10-08 04:38 AM   #142 
 

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