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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:39 AM
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88. ganging up
I know it feels overwhelming sometimes, but please keep fighting. They attack you because they are scared. When you present them with cold hard facts and irrefutable logic (and I love your posts precisely because you do those things so well) all they can do is try to drown you out by screaming or to try to attack until you go away.

So please, don't give in to them. If they make ridiculous claims, point out the ridiculousness. There are plenty here on your side who will defend you.

I tend to think of it as walking through a swarm of mosquitoes. It's easy, almost effortless, to swat away individual mosquitoes, but there seems to be an unlimited supply of them. You can either keep swatting or just shrug and let them bite you. Either way, they're going to annoy you, but swatting them may at least make you feel a little better. Some of the wiser ones may choose not to mess with you if they see you do it enough times.

Of course I'm not nearly as prolific as you are. It may very well weigh heavier on you. If that's the case, a day away from DU would probably do you a lot of good. We'll try not to lose the fight while you're away.
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  -Hillary blamed Obama while it was her own co-chair opposing the revote. Not honest of her. madfloridian  Apr-02-08 10:14 AM   #0 
  - I just knew you were going to write a post like this.  VolcanoJen   Apr-02-08 10:17 AM   #1 
  - They will just post on this thread telling me I am lying...yet I quote Debbie's words  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:21 AM   #4 
  - I've got your back, darlin'.  VolcanoJen   Apr-02-08 10:39 AM   #12 
  - Thanks. Did you see that thread practically calling me out as a liar?  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:42 AM   #19 
  - ganging up  FatDave   Apr-03-08 03:39 AM   #88 
  - I agree whole-heartedly. You are both terrific!! Thanks for telling it straight.  hisownpetard   Apr-02-08 12:15 PM   #48 
  - Maybe this plus certain other diaries should be sent to SD's?  Sandi_4_Edwards   Apr-02-08 10:19 AM   #2 
  - None of them would believe the falsehoods being spread.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:25 AM   #5 
  - Great work, mad. Have you sent this to TPM or Sirota? n/t  antigop   Apr-02-08 10:20 AM   #3 
  - She must really live in that "campaign bubble" Jay Bookman mentioned.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:30 AM   #6 
  - Hillary NEVER supported a re-vote in MI or FL, she just wanted to  ORDem   Apr-02-08 10:33 AM   #7 
  - That's exactly right! It's the vagueness and uncertainty.  VolcanoJen   Apr-02-08 10:43 AM   #20 
  - ". . .they don't want people to keep voting. . ."  stellanoir   Apr-02-08 10:35 AM   #8 
  - You mean they're lying?  babylonsister   Apr-02-08 10:35 AM   #9 
  - Careful now... don't make me vote for McCain!  redqueen   Apr-02-08 10:38 AM   #11 
     - "Hangs head shamefully"...  babylonsister   Apr-02-08 10:55 AM   #30 
  - kicking for truth  slinkerwink   Apr-02-08 10:38 AM   #10 
  - Thanks again, mad!  Debi   Apr-02-08 10:40 AM   #13 
  - The MSM HAS it already:  beachmom   Apr-02-08 10:48 AM   #24 
     - And yet Rendell is able to go around the cable news channels and say  Debi   Apr-02-08 11:00 AM   #33 
        - Rendell said Obama blocked it?  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:22 AM   #38 
           - It was on Morning Joe the other morning  Debi   Apr-02-08 11:23 AM   #39 
              - The media allows lies like that.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:29 AM   #40 
                 - Keeps the race going - otherwise they'd be bored until August n/t  Debi   Apr-02-08 11:41 AM   #43 
                 - no, they don't. Honest journalism went out the window a long time ago.  slinkerwink   Apr-02-08 08:54 PM   #68 
                    - Honest means nothing anymore.  madfloridian   Apr-03-08 12:02 PM   #99 
  - Kick and recommend!  Buzz Clik   Apr-02-08 10:40 AM   #14 
  - Hillary not honest? Shocked, I'm shocked I tell ya  WillYourVoteBCounted   Apr-02-08 10:40 AM   #15 
  - what i find interesting  madrchsod   Apr-02-08 10:40 AM   #16 
  - Kickin and  JenniferZ   Apr-02-08 10:42 AM   #17 
  - Clinton is a Pathological Liar... here's the proof:  berni_mccoy   Apr-02-08 10:42 AM   # 
  - You changed your story! You say she "opposed" it now, instead of "stopped the revote"  MethuenProgressive   Apr-02-08 10:42 AM   #18 
  - Take your effing choice. Either or both. Debbie fought it all the way.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:43 AM   #21 
     - You oppose Clinton. That doesn't mean you've stopped Clinton.  MethuenProgressive   Apr-02-08 10:54 AM   #27 
        - Take your pick.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:55 AM   #28 
  - Exactly right. From this point on, we have to assume everything coming  beachmom   Apr-02-08 10:45 AM   #22 
  - Your post is taken out of contest....  cricket08   Apr-02-08 10:46 AM   #23 
  - Your link sucks.  VolcanoJen   Apr-02-08 10:51 AM   #25 
  - What a load of crap...  cricket08   Apr-02-08 10:57 AM   #31 
  - Apparently, about three people "know" that...  VolcanoJen   Apr-02-08 11:05 AM   #36 
  - You got me beat - I was still trying to figure out what 'out of contest' meant  Debi   Apr-02-08 11:02 AM   #35 
     - Spelling is not a requirement for posting stuff here.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:06 AM   #37 
        - When all else fails, you can always point out  cricket08   Apr-02-08 11:54 AM   #46 
           - You as much as discredited my long post with many links.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 01:25 PM   #55 
              - ...  cricket08   Apr-02-08 01:35 PM   #56 
                 - Okay, please give details on how my post is wrong. You accuse, prove it.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 01:39 PM   #57 
                    - There is nothing to prove here...  cricket08   Apr-02-08 01:55 PM   #59 
                       - That is not sufficient.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 01:59 PM   #60 
                       - Perhaps he just doesn't want to be a hypocrite.  ExPatLeftist   Apr-03-08 09:36 AM   #93 
  - My post is its own context. Hillary blames Obama for what her chair opposed and fought.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:52 AM   #26 
  - Wonderful post, cricket08! Thank you for finding such a truthful story to share!  MethuenProgressive   Apr-02-08 10:55 AM   #29 
     - Thanks....  cricket08   Apr-02-08 11:01 AM   #34 
  - I was right. I knew it would never matter that Hillary wasn't honest.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:58 AM   #32 
  - Well, yeah!  juajen   Apr-02-08 01:49 PM   #58 
     - I did not chose a candidate until she said FL delegates should be seated.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 02:00 PM   #61 
  - K&R!  LowerManhattanite   Apr-02-08 11:32 AM   #41 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-02-08 11:40 AM   #42 
  - You called me dishonest? You said I am a Republican operative?  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:43 AM   #44 
  - Hillary's tactics are even making Markos angry. His post today is powerful.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:54 AM   #45 
  - Wow. kos *still* hates Hillary? That's like... news to you?  MethuenProgressive   Apr-02-08 12:08 PM   #47 
     - No news is good news.  hisownpetard   Apr-02-08 12:19 PM   #49 
     - No, Kos at first took the side of FL and MI.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 12:21 PM   #50 
  - Anyone who scoffs at citizen journalism  Asgaya Dihi   Apr-02-08 01:09 PM   #51 
  - I posted it again because of a counter post implying I was lying.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 01:13 PM   #53 
  - shoudn't someone from the Obama campaign put her straight  bambino   Apr-02-08 01:11 PM   #52 
  - K&R  JTFrog   Apr-02-08 01:14 PM   #54 
  - Funny to think that Hillary supporters refuse to notice her consistent lies...very strange to me.  quantass   Apr-02-08 02:03 PM   #62 
  - Here's an email from Hillary today on this same topic.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 04:27 PM   #63 
  - Look at how the OP distorts:  joshcryer   Apr-02-08 04:32 PM   #64 
  - The quotes are Wasserman Schultz's own words, Hillary's own words  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 09:33 PM   #69 
  - You are the 4th today to accuse me of not telling the truth.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 09:35 PM   #70 
  - You said: "These distortions are verging on outright lies"  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:05 PM   #71 
  - Since I used only people's own words...I hope some will defend me  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:14 PM   #74 
  - I'll defend you  donheld   Apr-03-08 01:36 AM   #85 
     - Please do! I'm trying to figure out what I said wrong.  joshcryer   Apr-03-08 02:09 AM   #86 
        - Are you trying to argue that Clinton is not blaming Obama?  Usrename   Apr-03-08 08:10 AM   #92 
           - I can't figure it out.  madfloridian   Apr-03-08 01:10 PM   #101 
              - I think it's getting to the point where people disagree to be disagreeable.  Usrename   Apr-03-08 03:03 PM   #103 
                 - I see it is ok now to say that to people.  madfloridian   Apr-04-08 12:52 AM   #105 
                    - It seems to be the same few folks that are running around doing that.  Usrename   Apr-04-08 12:59 AM   #106 
  - "These distortions are verging on outright lies"  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:46 PM   #77 
  - "The *rest of the quotes in the article* refer to *uncited claims*  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:15 PM   #79 
  - Why apologize?  joshcryer   Apr-02-08 11:20 PM   #80 
     - Then I will keep checking back.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 11:24 PM   #81 
  - I will check tomorrow.  madfloridian   Apr-03-08 01:14 AM   #84 
  - I see you are still able to say I "distort" and "border on lies."  madfloridian   Apr-03-08 09:52 AM   #95 
  - Keep posting the truth, Mad!  NanceGreggs   Apr-02-08 06:22 PM   #65 
  - Thanks for that.  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 08:31 PM   #66 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Apr-02-08 08:54 PM   #67 
  - Most posts here are angry  quakerboy   Apr-02-08 10:07 PM   #72 
  - If you are not angry then you are not aware that you are being lied to..  madfloridian   Apr-02-08 10:13 PM   #73 
  - i saw her on tv a few weeks ago saying everything was Dean's fault  JI7   Apr-02-08 10:14 PM   #75 
  - K&R  New Dawn   Apr-02-08 10:31 PM   #76 
  - kick.  Robeson   Apr-02-08 11:14 PM   #78 
  - K/R  skyounkin   Apr-03-08 12:53 AM   #82 
  - The Clintons have been entirely disingenuous about FL and MI.  AtomicKitten   Apr-03-08 12:55 AM   #83 
  - That's what happens when you play the "blame game" and lie so much.  Life Long Dem   Apr-03-08 02:42 AM   #87 
  - WHY??  indimuse   Apr-03-08 05:49 AM   #89 
  - The only thing Hillary and honesty have in common is...  Mhegwood3   Apr-03-08 06:21 AM   #90 
  - Some call it Rove Tactics. I just call it Clinton Tactics. Dirty, behind the back, double dealing.  IsItJustMe   Apr-03-08 08:06 AM   #91 
  - kicking it back to the top.  rateyes   Apr-03-08 09:36 AM   #94 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours  Greyskye   Apr-03-08 10:26 AM   #96 
  - the truth can't be diminished by repetition  crankychatter   Apr-03-08 10:29 AM   #97 
  - Truth is diminished here at this forum now.  madfloridian   Apr-03-08 11:48 AM   #98 
     - Hang in there MF  Submariner   Apr-03-08 12:18 PM   #100 
        - Thanks...your sigline says it all.  madfloridian   Apr-03-08 01:12 PM   #102 
  - Thursday night kick  ralbertson   Apr-03-08 10:28 PM   #104 
  - Kick  Scurrilous   Apr-04-08 07:14 AM   #107 
 

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