| 175. Have you considered that your experience may not be shared by everyone? |
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People who don't want to have children shouldn't have children. Going through with an unwanted pregnancy is a punishment to everyone involved, including the child.
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| -I'm a single parent. My son is a blessing to me. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:08 PM |
#0 |
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You do realize that's not what was said. But you post this crap anyway. Typical. |
K Gardner |
Mar-31-08 02:09 PM |
#1 |
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Looks verbatim to me... eom |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 02:26 PM |
#66 |
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Here's his entire answer if you care: |
jenmito |
Mar-31-08 02:32 PM |
#81 |
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Exactly, he was talking about condom use |
bobbert |
Mar-31-08 02:44 PM |
#100 |
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Are all you guys *really* totally missing the point of what he said? |
bunnies |
Mar-31-08 02:09 PM |
#2 |
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Me neither |
itsjustme |
Mar-31-08 02:44 PM |
#99 |
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Name removed |
Mar-31-08 02:09 PM |
#3 |
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And guess what? We'll be slimed by more of this bullshit when "the rest" of them come back. |
K Gardner |
Mar-31-08 02:11 PM |
#7 |
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Gosh! |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-31-08 02:20 PM |
#48 |
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Don’t patronize me!! This is a progressive forum, I do not have to actually defend pro-choice here |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 02:44 PM |
#101 |
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I didn't patronize you. |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-31-08 03:02 PM |
#130 |
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You were disgusting... and your post removed... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:11 PM |
#149 |
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Who is disgusting, Me?!!! |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 03:26 PM |
#177 |
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The post of yours that was deleted was disgusting... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:41 PM |
#186 |
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Interesting... that's what I call people who break the rules around here... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 02:26 PM |
#65 |
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Maddy that is wonderful |
DearAbby |
Mar-31-08 02:10 PM |
#4 |
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Name removed |
Mar-31-08 02:10 PM |
#5 |
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Holy FSM. |
bunnies |
Mar-31-08 02:12 PM |
# |
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Did you read the OP? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:12 PM |
#14 |
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yeah... |
bunnies |
Mar-31-08 02:13 PM |
#16 |
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Are you familiar with the context? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#25 |
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I know the context. |
bunnies |
Mar-31-08 02:33 PM |
#83 |
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well at least she stopped quoting anarchists |
grantcart |
Mar-31-08 02:40 PM |
#89 |
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Barry's folks will say and do anything to win, they don't |
Mags |
Mar-31-08 03:07 PM |
#139 |
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Do you make less than 15,000 fucking dollars a year? |
anonymous171 |
Mar-31-08 02:10 PM |
#6 |
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I made much less than that for years after my divorce. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:11 PM |
#10 |
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So you're saying you're against a woman's right to choose. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:12 PM |
#13 |
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I'm extremely pro-choice. I chose to have my son. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#21 |
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What do you think the punishment should be for a woman who has an abortion? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:15 PM |
#26 |
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That question has nothing to do with this discussion... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 02:32 PM |
#82 |
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I'd expect a pro-lifer like you to say something like that. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:43 PM |
#98 |
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Oh bullshit |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:15 PM |
#154 |
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And you choose to use him in order to attack somebody you do not support. |
Mass |
Mar-31-08 02:15 PM |
#28 |
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There is no attack in my OP. As a single parent, I've had people tell me... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:18 PM |
#37 |
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Really? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:19 PM |
#45 |
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So, why did you not post this months ago? Did your love for your son just happened? |
Mass |
Mar-31-08 02:24 PM |
#60 |
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Come on Barry folks, don't stop, crucify her, belittle her, nail her |
Mags |
Mar-31-08 03:12 PM |
#150 |
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This is not only disgusting, but against the rules of DU... eom |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:17 PM |
#159 |
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Nothing is more disgusting then the crap you all are throwing |
Mags |
Mar-31-08 03:20 PM |
#168 |
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You should have used :sarcasm: |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:34 PM |
#183 |
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and just what is that? |
Mags |
Mar-31-08 03:22 PM |
#171 |
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Talk about projection. More martyrs for Hillary. |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 03:18 PM |
#161 |
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you were married. |
DearAbby |
Mar-31-08 02:18 PM |
#38 |
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So? |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:19 PM |
#43 |
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For a teen caught in this situation |
DearAbby |
Mar-31-08 02:27 PM |
# |
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children should never be viewed as punishment |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 02:34 PM |
#84 |
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Why not? To a woman who doesn't choose to have the child but is forced to |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 02:41 PM |
#90 |
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That's not the point! |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:05 PM |
#136 |
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I disagree |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 03:13 PM |
# |
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Then the person could put the child up for adoption... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:43 PM |
#187 |
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What about those nine months? What about the birth process? |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 03:44 PM |
#189 |
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As long as you can CHOOSE to have a child or not, I would agree. |
Mass |
Mar-31-08 02:42 PM |
#94 |
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I think it's disgusting to say a child is punishment |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:08 PM |
#140 |
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And millions of unnecessary deaths, rampant disease, |
redqueen |
Mar-31-08 02:48 PM |
#110 |
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One has nothing to do with the other... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:08 PM |
#143 |
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Not directly... they're just both examples of statements that one might take offense to. |
redqueen |
Mar-31-08 03:14 PM |
#153 |
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Start your own thread then... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:19 PM |
#165 |
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I did. |
redqueen |
Mar-31-08 03:24 PM |
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Mar-31-08 02:42 PM |
#95 |
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If it weren't so Hitler-esque, I'd agree with you |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:10 PM |
#147 |
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Nice to see you are anti-choice. Since when did you became against abortion? |
Mass |
Mar-31-08 02:11 PM |
#8 |
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I think the OP was about *her* choice. Not yours. That is what choice is about. nt |
Ravy |
Mar-31-08 02:17 PM |
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Then why is it on GDP. GDP is about primary and we know that this is a backhanded attack on Obama by |
Mass |
Mar-31-08 02:18 PM |
#40 |
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Your attack on the OP is what makes no sense. |
Ravy |
Mar-31-08 02:27 PM |
#70 |
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Because he said refusing abortion for a woman who wants it was punishment for her. |
Mass |
Mar-31-08 02:30 PM |
#77 |
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Shouldn't this be in GD or The Lounge? n/t |
leftstreet |
Mar-31-08 02:11 PM |
#9 |
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That's wonderful. |
Erin Elizabeth |
Mar-31-08 02:11 PM |
#11 |
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Cool. :) Did you mean to post in the Parenting forum? Or the Lounge? |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Mar-31-08 02:12 PM |
#12 |
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DU has become the Bastion of Anti choice movement? |
DearAbby |
Mar-31-08 02:13 PM |
#15 |
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What if you found out your were pregnant and didn't want to have the baby? |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 02:13 PM |
#17 |
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Absolutely. But I still don't think that single parents consider their children "punishment." |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:15 PM |
#27 |
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I think not having a choice is a punishment |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 02:18 PM |
#39 |
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Not having a choice is punishment... too bad Obama didn't say that |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:13 PM |
#152 |
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Being forced to give birth is a punishment |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 03:21 PM |
#169 |
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I can say the same... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 03:40 PM |
#185 |
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Then you totally misunderstand Obama's statement (or distorted it intentionally.) |
jenmito |
Mar-31-08 02:20 PM |
#49 |
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I vote for distorted intentionally n/t |
itsjustme |
Mar-31-08 02:48 PM |
#109 |
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Maddy..where did you hear the single parent thing? Obama never said it. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Mar-31-08 03:23 PM |
#173 |
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delete |
Amy6627 |
Mar-31-08 02:13 PM |
#18 |
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What if you didn't want to have a baby? |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 02:17 PM |
#33 |
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are you parlocking? i assume this is a slam at obama somehow... |
dionysus |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#19 |
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oh... my... god. |
DarienComp |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#20 |
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That was take |
shraby |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#22 |
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You sound like a great mother..... |
Greenwood |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#23 |
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Every single parent deserves a big amount of credit, thanks for sharing your story. |
Kerry2008 |
Mar-31-08 02:14 PM |
#24 |
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Wow. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:16 PM |
#30 |
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You are most welcome. I applaud you. |
Kerry2008 |
Mar-31-08 02:19 PM |
#41 |
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You reminded me of this... |
Juniperx |
Mar-31-08 02:29 PM |
#75 |
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Thanks for posting!! You rock. That was beautiful. |
Kerry2008 |
Mar-31-08 02:31 PM |
#80 |
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I'm taking Obama's side on this one |
OzarkDem |
Mar-31-08 02:16 PM |
#29 |
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I'm very, very happy... |
PatGund |
Mar-31-08 02:20 PM |
#47 |
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Its a myth to claim parenthood is wonderful for everyone |
OzarkDem |
Mar-31-08 02:22 PM |
#54 |
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Agreed.... |
PatGund |
Mar-31-08 02:51 PM |
#115 |
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CONGRATULATIONS! youre desperate as hell! - nt |
goletian |
Mar-31-08 02:16 PM |
#31 |
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Your attack is out of bounds |
OzarkDem |
Mar-31-08 02:41 PM |
#91 |
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lol, if you think i have any effect on obama youre the one acting like an ass - nt |
goletian |
Mar-31-08 03:26 PM |
#176 |
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Obama supporters allowing Hillary supporters to suck us in with the |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-31-08 02:16 PM |
#32 |
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Yeah. You guys should let this sink. |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-31-08 02:24 PM |
#58 |
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So, because of your experience women should not have the right to choose? |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-31-08 02:17 PM |
#34 |
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I am pro-choice to the hilt. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:20 PM |
#46 |
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Do you or do you not consider denying women abortions "punishment"? |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-31-08 02:26 PM |
#67 |
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So do you want |
Mz Pip |
Mar-31-08 02:17 PM |
#35 |
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Good morning Maddy, how are you?. |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-31-08 02:17 PM |
#36 |
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Am hoping that you two can. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:21 PM |
#50 |
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Why'd you change your sig line from Lou Dobbs' line on illegal immigration? |
jenmito |
Mar-31-08 02:23 PM |
#55 |
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jenmito because that was yesterday's news |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-31-08 02:31 PM |
#78 |
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It was news yesterday? |
jenmito |
Mar-31-08 02:38 PM |
#87 |
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If you want a child so much, move. |
cali |
Mar-31-08 02:25 PM |
#62 |
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I have one child as well. I have never thought of him as a punishment |
cali |
Mar-31-08 02:19 PM |
#42 |
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And THAT Is The Point... |
WillyT |
Mar-31-08 02:23 PM |
#56 |
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I guess I don't see it in that vein. It's like saying AIDS is "punishment" for gay men. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:25 PM |
#63 |
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Sorry, but at seventeen that's exactly what it felt like and |
cali |
Mar-31-08 02:27 PM |
#71 |
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Its not like that at all. |
bunnies |
Mar-31-08 02:54 PM |
#119 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-31-08 03:08 PM |
#142 |
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WTF??? How dare you? Your comment is vile |
cali |
Mar-31-08 03:13 PM |
#151 |
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I think freeperville is where this originated. |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 03:19 PM |
#166 |
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ugh. I've never been told I should have been aborted before |
cali |
Mar-31-08 03:22 PM |
#172 |
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The poster is scum. Can't say I'm surprised by that comment from her at all. |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 03:33 PM |
#181 |
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How often do you use him to advance the pro-life agenda? (nt) |
Umbram |
Mar-31-08 02:19 PM |
#44 |
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The OPer has said time and time again they are pro-choice. |
Kerry2008 |
Mar-31-08 02:22 PM |
#52 |
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"I am extremely pro-... life"- Maddy McCall. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:24 PM |
#59 |
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Then perhaps she shouldn't sell out her integrity for such a cheap point. |
Umbram |
Mar-31-08 02:26 PM |
#68 |
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My post history demonstrates my position on choice. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:27 PM |
#69 |
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Your post history demonstrates quite a bit. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:29 PM |
#73 |
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That is a stupid statement |
dogday |
Mar-31-08 03:05 PM |
#137 |
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The baby is never punishment. |
moriah |
Mar-31-08 02:22 PM |
#51 |
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Don't tell that to a person who didn't want the baby |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 02:37 PM |
#86 |
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Good. All babies should be wanted. Isn't that what pro-choice means? |
orangepeel68 |
Mar-31-08 02:22 PM |
#53 |
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there is somthing seriously wrong with you. feh. |
Whisp |
Mar-31-08 02:24 PM |
#57 |
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I'm happliy single and cheerfully childfree and forcing me to have a baby against my will |
Larkspur |
Mar-31-08 02:25 PM |
#61 |
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I agree. |
NDambi |
Mar-31-08 02:29 PM |
#74 |
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What about the 15 yr old that gets pregnant? |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Mar-31-08 02:25 PM |
#64 |
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I'm saying that if she CHOOSES to keep that baby.... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:28 PM |
#72 |
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What if it is? |
Milo_Bloom |
Mar-31-08 02:42 PM |
#93 |
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Where did Obama say he thinks a woman who chooses to have a baby |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 02:43 PM |
#97 |
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Please re-read what Obama said. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Mar-31-08 02:58 PM |
#122 |
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What do you think of a parent who forces a 13 yr. old to have a baby against her will for whatever |
flpoljunkie |
Mar-31-08 03:21 PM |
#170 |
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This is disingenous as hell Maddy. |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 02:29 PM |
#76 |
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How wonderful for you! |
rucky |
Mar-31-08 02:31 PM |
#79 |
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For you having the child was clearly not a punishment... |
RichardRay |
Mar-31-08 02:37 PM |
#85 |
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Oh, good grief, Maddy. This is bullshit and you know it. Seriously, you know better than this. |
EmilyAnne |
Mar-31-08 02:39 PM |
#88 |
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Anyone who wishes to RATIONALLY discuss this topic, I'll be glad to. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:42 PM |
#92 |
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Maddy..thanks for your openess and honestly..I support and applaud you! n/t |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 02:44 PM |
#102 |
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Is this really the reason you first got into politics? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 02:44 PM |
#103 |
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Your post was irrational. |
endarkenment |
Mar-31-08 02:50 PM |
#113 |
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Maddy, I haven't attacked so please respond to my post |
Debi |
Mar-31-08 03:05 PM |
#135 |
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Maddy, it's disgusting to make hay of that statement. Obama loves his kids too. |
Bonobo |
Mar-31-08 02:43 PM |
#96 |
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Bullshit....reread his statement!!!! |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 02:45 PM |
#106 |
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So what are you saying? Obama hates children? WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? |
Bonobo |
Mar-31-08 02:46 PM |
#108 |
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Didja read his statement...he misspoke..probably regrets it..too! |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 02:48 PM |
#111 |
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How does your son feel about being used as a human shield in a political debate? |
jgraz |
Mar-31-08 02:44 PM |
#104 |
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Did the state force you to carry the fetus to term? |
endarkenment |
Mar-31-08 02:45 PM |
#105 |
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Murder is against the state...Creation isn't |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 02:45 PM |
#107 |
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I'm sure there is a point there someplace. |
endarkenment |
Mar-31-08 02:48 PM |
#112 |
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gosh it was pretty simple but let me say it s-l-o-w-e-r... |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 03:00 PM |
#125 |
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Tell us more. |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 02:58 PM |
#121 |
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And abortion is legal. nt |
July |
Mar-31-08 03:28 PM |
#178 |
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people are either free to decide, or they are not-free. and thus slaves. |
meow mix |
Mar-31-08 02:51 PM |
#114 |
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Aren't you the same person who gave Obama people hell for taking things too literally last night? |
BeyondGeography |
Mar-31-08 02:53 PM |
#116 |
| -
One thing this thread demonstrated is that there are assholes here... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 02:53 PM |
#117 |
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I agree I have been a single mom since I was 16 |
GoldieAZ49 |
Mar-31-08 02:53 PM |
#118 |
| -
Candidate preference aside, you've been one of my favorite posters here in GD:P |
Umbram |
Mar-31-08 02:55 PM |
#120 |
| -
Exactly. |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 02:59 PM |
#123 |
| -
She Called It Baring Her Soul |
Binka |
Mar-31-08 03:01 PM |
#127 |
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More like barring a soul. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-31-08 03:02 PM |
#131 |
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. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 03:02 PM |
#132 |
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Yeah, Maddy's the victim.... |
Forkboy |
Mar-31-08 03:04 PM |
#133 |
| -
Well, d'oh. |
TahitiNut |
Mar-31-08 03:08 PM |
#141 |
| -
Well, I'm sorry she feels that way. |
Umbram |
Mar-31-08 03:10 PM |
#146 |
| -
I'm really disappointed too |
tishaLA |
Mar-31-08 03:33 PM |
#182 |
| -
wonders to self if mother sometimes calls kid shithead like grandma calls mother (n/t)... |
Ysabel |
Mar-31-08 03:00 PM |
#124 |
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Assures you that grandmother never referred to grandchild as a "little shit." |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-31-08 03:01 PM |
#128 |
| -
i know exactly what it was and it wasn't funny... |
Ysabel |
Mar-31-08 03:09 PM |
#144 |
| -
your mom doesn't do THAT or does she??? |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 03:02 PM |
#129 |
| -
my mom is dead (n/t)... |
Ysabel |
Mar-31-08 03:10 PM |
#148 |
| -
you DO realize that you don't speak for ALL mothers, right? |
Cheap_Trick |
Mar-31-08 03:01 PM |
#126 |
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easy pickins! |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 03:04 PM |
#134 |
| -
slim pickens |
Cheap_Trick |
Mar-31-08 03:15 PM |
#155 |
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twon't be long...count on it...Arrogance has it's cost. |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 03:16 PM |
#157 |
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lol |
Cheap_Trick |
Mar-31-08 03:19 PM |
#167 |
| -
Bravo. |
TacticalPeek |
Mar-31-08 03:07 PM |
#138 |
| -
This makes me sad and disappointed |
PylesMalfunction |
Mar-31-08 03:09 PM |
#145 |
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He said what he said...now he has to contend with it... |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 03:15 PM |
#156 |
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LOL. Yes! It was a SEXIST statement! Flash that gender card as often as possible! |
GarbagemanLB |
Mar-31-08 03:17 PM |
#158 |
| -
shucks...thank you for agreeing! |
Oleladylib |
Mar-31-08 03:18 PM |
#160 |
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Thanks for putting words in my mouth! |
PylesMalfunction |
Mar-31-08 03:29 PM |
#179 |
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Just keep on beating down anyone who is not for the Man. |
Mags |
Mar-31-08 03:18 PM |
#162 |
| -
You're so right! |
PylesMalfunction |
Mar-31-08 03:31 PM |
#180 |
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Sometimes it's like being airlifted into a Free Republic forum. nt |
Vinca |
Mar-31-08 03:18 PM |
#163 |
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under sniper fire |
tishaLA |
Mar-31-08 03:35 PM |
#184 |
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at 3am |
anonymous171 |
Mar-31-08 03:44 PM |
#188 |
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It bothers me that you're contorting yourself to take offense at a simple pro-choice statement. |
impeachdubya |
Mar-31-08 03:18 PM |
#164 |
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Thanks Maddy this single parent |
BlueIdaho |
Mar-31-08 03:24 PM |
#174 |
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Have you considered that your experience may not be shared by everyone? |
Mooney |
Mar-31-08 03:24 PM |
#175 |
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locking. |
wakemeupwhenitsover |
Mar-31-08 03:45 PM |
#190 |
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