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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:28 PM
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61. Go on believing your little fantasy
She's too busy to know her financial situation with people she owes money to?

you DO REALIZE that each and every one of those PEOPLE she OWES money to can VOTE???


You live in a fantasy world where bill-paying is not on your agenda?
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  -This is a no-brainer...I would not vote for someone who did not pay their bills. Raven  Mar-30-08 05:36 PM   #0 
  - Apparently she's not very good at 'pay as you go'  C_U_L8R   Mar-30-08 05:39 PM   #1 
  - Well, in fairness, she's not sitting down everyday writing the checks  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:42 PM   #6 
     - The buck literally stops with her  C_U_L8R   Mar-30-08 05:44 PM   #10 
  - And look at the current deficit; what would that look like after 4 years? nt  babylonsister   Mar-30-08 05:40 PM   #2 
  - Couldn't this be Repug Spin, though? n/t  KoKo01   Mar-30-08 05:40 PM   #3 
  - No, this is from the official financial records they have to file.  Sandi_4_Edwards   Mar-30-08 05:41 PM   #5 
  - You're right--on many levels:  Sandi_4_Edwards   Mar-30-08 05:40 PM   #4 
  - um, she claims to stand for working stiffs -she stiffs working stiffs!  TexanDem   Mar-30-08 05:42 PM   #7 
  - Oh, but you should.  brokensymmetry   Mar-30-08 05:43 PM   #8 
  - . . . or someone who bought his house with the help of a crook.  anamandujano   Mar-30-08 05:43 PM   #9 
  - already debunked--keep up  Sandi_4_Edwards   Mar-30-08 05:45 PM   #12 
  - That hasn't been debunked. It is an acknowledged fact.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:11 PM   #24 
     - stay on task. start a thread with obama but tell me how Hillary  roguevalley   Mar-30-08 06:18 PM   #31 
     - I didn't start any thread. And I don't care which one wins.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:24 PM   #35 
        - No you don't you want to use words like "crook"....  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:18 PM   #53 
        - Where did I use the word crook?  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:32 PM   #105 
        - fairly equals diversions?  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:23 PM   #56 
           - I agree.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:33 PM   #106 
     - That HAS been debunked. The owner in question was interviewed and said those claims were false.  stevenleser   Mar-30-08 06:19 PM   #32 
     - Then the owner in question is calling Obama a liar. nt  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:46 PM   #44 
        - No, they arent. What does it say for you that you comment on something you havent seen?  stevenleser   Mar-30-08 06:50 PM   #46 
           - I took what I wrote from his own words. If the propery owner disagrees, then  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:56 PM   #48 
              - From  stevenleser   Mar-30-08 06:57 PM   #49 
                 - Which supports my statement.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 07:09 PM   #50 
                    - Rezko bought the lot next door..  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:46 PM   #74 
                       - I know. Read what I posted.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:26 PM   #104 
                          - There is no effort to turn him into..  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 10:57 PM   #112 
     - There was another offer for the land for the same amount  dkf   Mar-30-08 06:24 PM   #34 
     - I didn't do any research other than to read Obama's own explaination. nt  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:25 PM   #37 
        - Look, even though there was another offer, he still feels bad about the situtation  dkf   Mar-30-08 06:32 PM   #39 
           - I have never seen him offer up that as an excuse either.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:44 PM   #43 
              - Yeah, but his mistake was in creating an appearance of a conflict  dkf   Mar-30-08 06:55 PM   #47 
              - The mistake is by doing business with someone who had problems unrelated to this transaction  Cant trust em   Mar-30-08 07:11 PM   #51 
                 - Yeah, it shouldn't be here.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:35 PM   #108 
     - Anything you want to know can be found here:  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:38 PM   #68 
     - Nope. But clinton's lies about Tuzla sure are fact.  Zhade   Mar-30-08 10:16 PM   #110 
  - So, that's your response to Clinton not paying her bills? Weak response. n/t  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:46 PM   # 
  - good one anamandujano  bellasgrams   Mar-30-08 06:15 PM   #27 
     - So, who got stiffed in that transaction? The grocer? n/t  Raven   Mar-30-08 06:18 PM   #30 
  - It's the entitlement mentality at its ugliest: I'm the Queen, my coronation is coming up, let the  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 05:45 PM   #11 
  - I wonder where you got that idea? She has never said that...indeed Obama is the only one telling  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:21 PM   #54 
     - That statement is false: Obama has said precisely the opposite, that HRC can and should  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 07:28 PM   #60 
     - Come on. Do you not understand what is going on? Obama speaks through his surrogates  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:43 PM   #71 
        - So, as I said: no proof for your false assertion. Just an "Come on" and some blather about  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 07:47 PM   #76 
           - I am not certain what you are asking?  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:52 PM   #81 
              - You stated that Obama "called on" HRC to quit (see post #54 above, in case it's slipped your mind).  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:01 PM   #85 
                 - Obama's campaign speaks for him.  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:07 PM   #86 
                    - So, more semantics games and yet still no proof, linked or otherwise. About what I figured.  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:13 PM   #89 
                       - semantics?  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:23 PM   #91 
                          - Still no linky-linky, huh? I well understand: non-existent "proof" is tough to come by.  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:32 PM   #92 
                             - What do you want a link for?  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:46 PM   #96 
                                - Once again, from the top:  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:51 PM   #98 
                                   - And if you have not heard it you are deaf  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:54 PM   #100 
                                      - I don't have about a link for me then?  Forkboy   Mar-30-08 09:34 PM   #107 
     - Explain her not acting 'entitled' to these folks who she hasn't paid  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:29 PM   #62 
        - Really. That is what I mean. You create all sorts of scenarios just to hate her more  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:34 PM   #64 
           - People have sued her campaign to get paid!!  Debi   Mar-30-08 08:01 PM   #84 
  - She thought it would be over on Super Tuesday. Oops!  panader0   Mar-30-08 05:46 PM   #13 
  - I agree it is a very good thing to pay one's bills, but is this really the #1 deal breaker for you?  gristy   Mar-30-08 05:48 PM   #14 
  - Paying my bills, taking things and services from others and paying for them  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:56 PM   #18 
  - If she hadn't already given me so many other reasons, yes, this would be the one that would break  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 05:57 PM   #20 
  - It's an issues of integrity. Many of the people she ripped off are not mega-millionaires  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-30-08 06:14 PM   #26 
  - Well then, add the clause, "and LIES about her experience"  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:23 PM   #57 
  - It's the economy, stupid.  dansolo   Mar-30-08 07:50 PM   #79 
  - Since you are the one making the accusation,  cbayer   Mar-30-08 05:50 PM   #15 
  - Here you go, the list is too long to copy paste.  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 06:00 PM   #22 
     - Thank you Petra! n/t  Raven   Mar-30-08 06:04 PM   #23 
     - YW, when I clinked on the link I was just dumbfounded at the length and breadth of the list.  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 06:25 PM   #36 
     - Thank you for that.  cbayer   Mar-30-08 06:36 PM   #41 
  - Campaign debt is common; it gets paid after the election  splat   Mar-30-08 05:53 PM   #16 
  - Tell that to the people living month to month or the schools that  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:58 PM   #21 
  - Several of those business might be OUT of business at that time nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-30-08 06:16 PM   #28 
  - Well, usually it's only the last two months of unpaid bills  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:26 PM   #58 
  - $8.7 million - is she going to just write a check?  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:35 PM   #65 
  - Oh, that's a really old excuse. If that's true, then why are McCain and Obama not in so much debt?  AZBlue   Mar-30-08 08:11 PM   #88 
     - Obama's debt  Debi   Mar-30-08 09:05 PM   #102 
        - Exactly.  AZBlue   Mar-30-08 10:14 PM   #109 
  - As if. . .  stellanoir   Mar-30-08 05:54 PM   #17 
  - Her priorities speak volumes, don't they?  Yael   Mar-30-08 05:56 PM   #19 
  - she didn't tip that poor waitress either, until she was called out  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-30-08 06:13 PM   #25 
  - It sucks but it's probably a staffer screw-up.  MH1   Mar-30-08 06:18 PM   #29 
  - You are right, she may not know. I hope she knows now and I hope  Raven   Mar-30-08 06:20 PM   #33 
  - Uhm, no excuse, really, isn't that just a set up for her excuses when/if she leads the country?  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 06:26 PM   #38 
  - Well it doesn't look good BUT any leader can have problems with a staffer screwing up.  MH1   Mar-30-08 06:33 PM   #40 
     - A staffer? Sorry, grasp at straws if you want, if she can't keep track of her finances and staffers  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 07:59 PM   #83 
  - I sincerely doubt this....  tpsbmam   Mar-30-08 06:36 PM   #42 
  - Go on believing your little fantasy  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:28 PM   #61 
  - Why attack me?  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:36 PM   #93 
     - Well then, sorry, I read your post wrong  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 10:18 PM   #111 
  - It was brought to her attention in January and she wrote a $5 million check  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:40 PM   #69 
  - I didn't know that these unpaid bills were part of the January situation  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:46 PM   #95 
     - This isn't her first time running for office  Debi   Mar-30-08 09:00 PM   #101 
  - As long as she doesn't make it a habit...  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:49 PM   #78 
  - Heh, that seems fair to me!  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:42 PM   #94 
     - I don't think she is an ogre. However, she has to be aware of the FEC filings.  Tatiana   Mar-30-08 09:11 PM   #103 
  - I hope that's the case, although on some level, doesn't that  JerseygirlCT   Mar-30-08 08:49 PM   #97 
     - Absolutely  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:54 PM   #99 
  - She borrowed or put on the backs of small businesses, 85% of her funds in Feb.! n/t  ORDem   Mar-30-08 06:47 PM   #45 
  - Did this come up again?  Cant trust em   Mar-30-08 07:12 PM   #52 
  - Here's the link  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:44 PM   #72 
  - Sorry, Raven - it's all true  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:21 PM   #55 
  - Doesn't she have personal wealth  merh   Mar-30-08 07:38 PM   #66 
     - You'd think she'd give a damn about the small vendors and school districts  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:45 PM   #73 
  - She's desperate, and addicted to being POTUS. For that reason,  Mike03   Mar-30-08 07:26 PM   #59 
  - How many times do I have to tell you people that she is a SCUMBAG?  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-30-08 07:29 PM   #63 
  - I knew that before I ever read your posts, my dear friend  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:38 PM   #67 
  - In all fairness, this isn't much of a "deal breaker"  bhikkhu   Mar-30-08 07:42 PM   #70 
  - It's reflective of underlying character fault of HRC: she will do anything to win...  PoliticalAmazon   Mar-30-08 07:46 PM   #75 
  - Perhaps the bills are part of a crisis point  bhikkhu   Mar-30-08 07:56 PM   #82 
  - I don't enjoy it - I'm pissed off about it.  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:49 PM   #77 
  - Agreed, the details don't look good. She has not campaigned in my state (OR)  bhikkhu   Mar-30-08 08:08 PM   #87 
     - First, make sure your local vendors get cash up front or at the very least a credit card payment  Debi   Mar-30-08 08:15 PM   #90 
  - I hate getting ripped off...don't you?  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:50 PM   #80 
  - kick. nt  mckeown1128   Apr-01-08 09:11 PM   #113 

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