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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #43
51. The mistake is by doing business with someone who had problems unrelated to this transaction
it's a political problem, not a real estate problem.

Moreover, aren't there other threads dedicated to Rezko. After reading the give and take between you and some other posters I can't even remember why I came to this thread in the first place.
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  -This is a no-brainer...I would not vote for someone who did not pay their bills. Raven  Mar-30-08 05:36 PM   #0 
  - Apparently she's not very good at 'pay as you go'  C_U_L8R   Mar-30-08 05:39 PM   #1 
  - Well, in fairness, she's not sitting down everyday writing the checks  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:42 PM   #6 
     - The buck literally stops with her  C_U_L8R   Mar-30-08 05:44 PM   #10 
  - And look at the current deficit; what would that look like after 4 years? nt  babylonsister   Mar-30-08 05:40 PM   #2 
  - Couldn't this be Repug Spin, though? n/t  KoKo01   Mar-30-08 05:40 PM   #3 
  - No, this is from the official financial records they have to file.  Sandi_4_Edwards   Mar-30-08 05:41 PM   #5 
  - You're right--on many levels:  Sandi_4_Edwards   Mar-30-08 05:40 PM   #4 
  - um, she claims to stand for working stiffs -she stiffs working stiffs!  TexanDem   Mar-30-08 05:42 PM   #7 
  - Oh, but you should.  brokensymmetry   Mar-30-08 05:43 PM   #8 
  - . . . or someone who bought his house with the help of a crook.  anamandujano   Mar-30-08 05:43 PM   #9 
  - already debunked--keep up  Sandi_4_Edwards   Mar-30-08 05:45 PM   #12 
  - That hasn't been debunked. It is an acknowledged fact.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:11 PM   #24 
     - stay on task. start a thread with obama but tell me how Hillary  roguevalley   Mar-30-08 06:18 PM   #31 
     - I didn't start any thread. And I don't care which one wins.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:24 PM   #35 
        - No you don't you want to use words like "crook"....  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:18 PM   #53 
        - Where did I use the word crook?  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:32 PM   #105 
        - fairly equals diversions?  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:23 PM   #56 
           - I agree.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:33 PM   #106 
     - That HAS been debunked. The owner in question was interviewed and said those claims were false.  stevenleser   Mar-30-08 06:19 PM   #32 
     - Then the owner in question is calling Obama a liar. nt  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:46 PM   #44 
        - No, they arent. What does it say for you that you comment on something you havent seen?  stevenleser   Mar-30-08 06:50 PM   #46 
           - I took what I wrote from his own words. If the propery owner disagrees, then  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:56 PM   #48 
              - From factcheck.org  stevenleser   Mar-30-08 06:57 PM   #49 
                 - Which supports my statement.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 07:09 PM   #50 
                    - Rezko bought the lot next door..  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:46 PM   #74 
                       - I know. Read what I posted.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:26 PM   #104 
                          - There is no effort to turn him into..  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 10:57 PM   #112 
     - There was another offer for the land for the same amount  dkf   Mar-30-08 06:24 PM   #34 
     - I didn't do any research other than to read Obama's own explaination. nt  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:25 PM   #37 
        - Look, even though there was another offer, he still feels bad about the situtation  dkf   Mar-30-08 06:32 PM   #39 
           - I have never seen him offer up that as an excuse either.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 06:44 PM   #43 
              - Yeah, but his mistake was in creating an appearance of a conflict  dkf   Mar-30-08 06:55 PM   #47 
              - The mistake is by doing business with someone who had problems unrelated to this transaction  Cant trust em   Mar-30-08 07:11 PM   #51 
                 - Yeah, it shouldn't be here.  Ravy   Mar-30-08 09:35 PM   #108 
     - Anything you want to know can be found here:  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:38 PM   #68 
     - Nope. But clinton's lies about Tuzla sure are fact.  Zhade   Mar-30-08 10:16 PM   #110 
  - So, that's your response to Clinton not paying her bills? Weak response. n/t  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:46 PM   # 
  - good one anamandujano  bellasgrams   Mar-30-08 06:15 PM   #27 
     - So, who got stiffed in that transaction? The grocer? n/t  Raven   Mar-30-08 06:18 PM   #30 
  - It's the entitlement mentality at its ugliest: I'm the Queen, my coronation is coming up, let the  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 05:45 PM   #11 
  - I wonder where you got that idea? She has never said that...indeed Obama is the only one telling  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:21 PM   #54 
     - That statement is false: Obama has said precisely the opposite, that HRC can and should  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 07:28 PM   #60 
     - Come on. Do you not understand what is going on? Obama speaks through his surrogates  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:43 PM   #71 
        - So, as I said: no proof for your false assertion. Just an "Come on" and some blather about  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 07:47 PM   #76 
           - I am not certain what you are asking?  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:52 PM   #81 
              - You stated that Obama "called on" HRC to quit (see post #54 above, in case it's slipped your mind).  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:01 PM   #85 
                 - Obama's campaign speaks for him.  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:07 PM   #86 
                    - So, more semantics games and yet still no proof, linked or otherwise. About what I figured.  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:13 PM   #89 
                       - semantics?  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:23 PM   #91 
                          - Still no linky-linky, huh? I well understand: non-existent "proof" is tough to come by.  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:32 PM   #92 
                             - What do you want a link for?  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:46 PM   #96 
                                - Once again, from the top:  apocalypsehow   Mar-30-08 08:51 PM   #98 
                                   - And if you have not heard it you are deaf  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 08:54 PM   #100 
                                      - I don't have cable...how about a link for me then?  Forkboy   Mar-30-08 09:34 PM   #107 
     - Explain her not acting 'entitled' to these folks who she hasn't paid  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:29 PM   #62 
        - Really. That is what I mean. You create all sorts of scenarios just to hate her more  Evergreen Emerald   Mar-30-08 07:34 PM   #64 
           - People have sued her campaign to get paid!!  Debi   Mar-30-08 08:01 PM   #84 
  - She thought it would be over on Super Tuesday. Oops!  panader0   Mar-30-08 05:46 PM   #13 
  - I agree it is a very good thing to pay one's bills, but is this really the #1 deal breaker for you?  gristy   Mar-30-08 05:48 PM   #14 
  - Paying my bills, taking things and services from others and paying for them  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:56 PM   #18 
  - If she hadn't already given me so many other reasons, yes, this would be the one that would break  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 05:57 PM   #20 
  - It's an issues of integrity. Many of the people she ripped off are not mega-millionaires  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-30-08 06:14 PM   #26 
  - Well then, add the clause, "and LIES about her experience"  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:23 PM   #57 
  - It's the economy, stupid.  dansolo   Mar-30-08 07:50 PM   #79 
  - Since you are the one making the accusation,  cbayer   Mar-30-08 05:50 PM   #15 
  - Here you go, the list is too long to copy paste.  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 06:00 PM   #22 
     - Thank you Petra! n/t  Raven   Mar-30-08 06:04 PM   #23 
     - YW, when I clinked on the link I was just dumbfounded at the length and breadth of the list.  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 06:25 PM   #36 
     - Thank you for that.  cbayer   Mar-30-08 06:36 PM   #41 
  - Campaign debt is common; it gets paid after the election  splat   Mar-30-08 05:53 PM   #16 
  - Tell that to the people living month to month or the schools that  Raven   Mar-30-08 05:58 PM   #21 
  - Several of those business might be OUT of business at that time nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-30-08 06:16 PM   #28 
  - Well, usually it's only the last two months of unpaid bills  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:26 PM   #58 
  - $8.7 million - is she going to just write a check?  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:35 PM   #65 
  - Oh, that's a really old excuse. If that's true, then why are McCain and Obama not in so much debt?  AZBlue   Mar-30-08 08:11 PM   #88 
     - Obama's debt  Debi   Mar-30-08 09:05 PM   #102 
        - Exactly.  AZBlue   Mar-30-08 10:14 PM   #109 
  - As if. . .  stellanoir   Mar-30-08 05:54 PM   #17 
  - Her priorities speak volumes, don't they?  Yael   Mar-30-08 05:56 PM   #19 
  - she didn't tip that poor waitress either, until she was called out  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-30-08 06:13 PM   #25 
  - It sucks but it's probably a staffer screw-up.  MH1   Mar-30-08 06:18 PM   #29 
  - You are right, she may not know. I hope she knows now and I hope  Raven   Mar-30-08 06:20 PM   #33 
  - Uhm, no excuse, really, isn't that just a set up for her excuses when/if she leads the country?  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 06:26 PM   #38 
  - Well it doesn't look good BUT any leader can have problems with a staffer screwing up.  MH1   Mar-30-08 06:33 PM   #40 
     - A staffer? Sorry, grasp at straws if you want, if she can't keep track of her finances and staffers  PetraPooh   Mar-30-08 07:59 PM   #83 
  - I sincerely doubt this....  tpsbmam   Mar-30-08 06:36 PM   #42 
  - Go on believing your little fantasy  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:28 PM   #61 
  - Why attack me?  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:36 PM   #93 
     - Well then, sorry, I read your post wrong  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 10:18 PM   #111 
  - It was brought to her attention in January and she wrote a $5 million check  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:40 PM   #69 
  - I didn't know that these unpaid bills were part of the January situation  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:46 PM   #95 
     - This isn't her first time running for office  Debi   Mar-30-08 09:00 PM   #101 
  - As long as she doesn't make it a habit...  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:49 PM   #78 
  - Heh, that seems fair to me!  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:42 PM   #94 
     - I don't think she is an ogre. However, she has to be aware of the FEC filings.  Tatiana   Mar-30-08 09:11 PM   #103 
  - I hope that's the case, although on some level, doesn't that  JerseygirlCT   Mar-30-08 08:49 PM   #97 
     - Absolutely  MH1   Mar-30-08 08:54 PM   #99 
  - She borrowed or put on the backs of small businesses, 85% of her funds in Feb.! n/t  ORDem   Mar-30-08 06:47 PM   #45 
  - Did this come up again?  Cant trust em   Mar-30-08 07:12 PM   #52 
  - Here's the link  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:44 PM   #72 
  - Sorry, Raven - it's all true  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:21 PM   #55 
  - Doesn't she have personal wealth  merh   Mar-30-08 07:38 PM   #66 
     - You'd think she'd give a damn about the small vendors and school districts  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:45 PM   #73 
  - She's desperate, and addicted to being POTUS. For that reason,  Mike03   Mar-30-08 07:26 PM   #59 
  - How many times do I have to tell you people that she is a SCUMBAG?  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-30-08 07:29 PM   #63 
  - I knew that before I ever read your posts, my dear friend  JayFredMuggs   Mar-30-08 07:38 PM   #67 
  - In all fairness, this isn't much of a "deal breaker"  bhikkhu   Mar-30-08 07:42 PM   #70 
  - It's reflective of underlying character fault of HRC: she will do anything to win...  PoliticalAmazon   Mar-30-08 07:46 PM   #75 
  - Perhaps the bills are part of a crisis point  bhikkhu   Mar-30-08 07:56 PM   #82 
  - I don't enjoy it - I'm pissed off about it.  Debi   Mar-30-08 07:49 PM   #77 
  - Agreed, the details don't look good. She has not campaigned in my state (OR)  bhikkhu   Mar-30-08 08:08 PM   #87 
     - First, make sure your local vendors get cash up front or at the very least a credit card payment  Debi   Mar-30-08 08:15 PM   #90 
  - I hate getting ripped off...don't you?  stillcool47   Mar-30-08 07:50 PM   #80 
  - kick. nt  mckeown1128   Apr-01-08 09:11 PM   #113 
 

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