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Sun Mar-30-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #69 |
| 74. You know something, I know some people that have been driven north |
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just to keep food in their kids' mouth.
They don't want to be here. They miss and worry about their wives and children.
This is awful, all the way around.
Some of them want to immigrate here like my mother did but the majority miss their homes, their farms, their communities.
I've listened to many of their stories. Maybe that's why when people here lash out at them, I have such a big reaction.
These people were driven out of their homes by US policy. And we paid for it. That's just wrong and something we need to attend to -- over Lou Dobbs or over any hysterical call in the media about being "invaded".
The people I've talked to and listened to are not "invaders". And most of them would rather go home and work and raise their kids.
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| -Richardson: "I think loyalty to the nation, loyalty to the party is a lot more important |
Ichingcarpenter |
Mar-30-08 01:03 PM |
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A kick for goatee and democracy lovers everywhere. |
zonkers |
Mar-30-08 01:05 PM |
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That's right! The Clintons act like mafia dons demanding fealty! |
tabasco |
Mar-30-08 01:08 PM |
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The last section is worth a read on 'consensus emerging' |
Ichingcarpenter |
Mar-30-08 01:11 PM |
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Sounds too much like the Bushes |
C_U_L8R |
Mar-30-08 02:45 PM |
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Three cheers for Richardson. He made his point very well. |
Ilsa |
Mar-30-08 01:10 PM |
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I agree with Carville |
devilindisguise |
Mar-30-08 02:14 PM |
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BULLSHIT...he doesn't owe the Clintons forever...and he certainly doesn't owe Hilllary anything n/t |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 02:48 PM |
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Bullshit...bilary is a LIAR and Governor Bill Richardson |
zidzi |
Mar-30-08 02:51 PM |
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Let me rephrase... Richardson acted honorably |
FogerRox |
Mar-30-08 09:37 PM |
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If Richardson is Judas, that means you think Hillary is Jesus? Wow. |
Alexander |
Mar-30-08 02:53 PM |
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Nothing. How profoundly stupid. |
cali |
Mar-30-08 03:22 PM |
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The support for candidates by Super Delegates or party |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:29 PM |
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He was a Congressman long before Clinton came along. Seems to me |
pdxmom |
Mar-30-08 03:39 PM |
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The relationship between Richardson & Clinton was mutually beneficial |
bklyncowgirl |
Mar-31-08 05:38 AM |
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Richardson would be nothing |
FogerRox |
Mar-30-08 09:32 PM |
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You are delusional |
sellitman |
Mar-30-08 09:56 PM |
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GTH...Richardson..you're as pompous as the repukes. |
Oleladylib |
Mar-30-08 01:11 PM |
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It's now pompous to have loyalty to country and party and not to the Hillary??? |
JayFredMuggs |
Mar-30-08 01:14 PM |
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The tragic irony of that post is dripping. |
izzybeans |
Mar-30-08 01:17 PM |
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I agree. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:27 PM |
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I'm actually referring to the hatred against Obama |
izzybeans |
Mar-30-08 01:29 PM |
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Have you read those hate things about Hillary from Obama |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:31 PM |
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In your heart, you know he's right. We're all on the same side. |
Bicoastal |
Mar-30-08 01:16 PM |
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How is he chauvinist? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Mar-30-08 01:23 PM |
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I guess it takes a pompous ass |
rateyes |
Mar-30-08 01:39 PM |
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In your sick world |
cali |
Mar-30-08 03:25 PM |
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Richardson also liked baseball and lied about being in the players draft. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 04:41 PM |
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Loyalty to the Constitution above all else Richardson |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:13 PM |
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I think we know that these ad personam criticisms of other candidates |
JayFredMuggs |
Mar-30-08 01:17 PM |
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He wants open borders for the Americas and amnesty |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:21 PM |
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He supports legal immigration, is that your point? |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 01:24 PM |
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No amnesty is for illegal immigrants. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:27 PM |
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Amnesty normalizes their immigration status and pulls them into the system. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 01:30 PM |
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Do you suppose I can go to Germany or Britain and |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:34 PM |
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This is America, a nation of immigrants. This isn't Germany or Britain. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 01:38 PM |
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My ancestors came here legally and have been here |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:51 PM |
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If your ancestors came here before the Civil War, |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 02:05 PM |
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The anti immigrant crowd can't seem to get that through their heads |
merh |
Mar-30-08 02:16 PM |
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The thing that really disturbs me, aside from the xenophobia |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 02:21 PM |
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They don't want to admit that its their ignorance and fears |
merh |
Mar-30-08 02:29 PM |
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I can never diss anyone for being ignorant or scared |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 02:46 PM |
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Better yet... |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:41 PM |
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So our solution to demonize undocumented workers is bullshit. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:43 PM |
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As I said, we could use your slave labor in our state. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:47 PM |
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do you hate them because they look different than you |
merh |
Mar-30-08 04:38 PM |
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No some of them look the same as me and I don' t hate |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 04:45 PM |
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You are the one that keeps making it an issue |
merh |
Mar-30-08 05:10 PM |
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I outta here. |
mac2 |
Mar-31-08 05:02 PM |
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Bull crap to that idea. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:12 PM |
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Who cuts your lawn or paints your house cheaper than |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:14 PM |
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LOL |
merh |
Mar-30-08 04:36 PM |
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nm n/t |
JTFrog |
Mar-31-08 04:50 AM |
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Or destroying the jobs and land in Mexico forcing them to |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:15 PM |
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I had more than one ancestor come to America. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:30 PM |
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I'm with you...I'm not for blanket amnesty..but many other Dems are |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 02:50 PM |
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So, why are you against amnesty? |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:07 PM |
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I didn't say I was against amnesty..I said BLANKET amnesty... |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 03:15 PM |
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So, why are you against blankets? |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:26 PM |
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Might be that the blanket might be covering up real problems? |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:33 PM |
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Brown people aren't your problem. Your government policy is your problem. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:37 PM |
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Oh my...they are all brown? |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:43 PM |
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Dishonest. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:48 PM |
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Nope...many Chinese and Asians are here illegally also. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 04:35 PM |
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Exactly...why is it everyone thinks its about Latin America... |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 05:52 PM |
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I am a brown person and I still have issues with blanket amnesty... |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 05:51 PM |
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If you don't have issues with anyone being granted amnesty without being vetted or checked out..then |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 05:50 PM |
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Lets stop companies that offer jobs to illegals |
FogerRox |
Mar-30-08 09:43 PM |
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Got any other right-wing anti-immigrant arguments you want to regurgitate? |
Paint It Black |
Mar-30-08 03:49 PM |
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Is this a circle argument? |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 04:47 PM |
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Countries should be built on legal immigration...not illegal |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 05:53 PM |
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Do you know the definition of amnesty? |
rateyes |
Mar-30-08 01:42 PM |
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The right wing has demonized the term. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 01:48 PM |
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Amnesty is the same as a full pardon... |
rateyes |
Mar-30-08 01:52 PM |
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He wants a fine or be here for five years...or something |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:56 PM |
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Immigration law isn't criminal law, in the first place. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 02:01 PM |
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Hey, I agree with you. |
rateyes |
Mar-30-08 02:09 PM |
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mac2 still hasn't figured out that BushCo is playing both sides |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 02:12 PM |
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Yep. nt |
rateyes |
Mar-30-08 02:16 PM |
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I don't support Bush's immigration policy since |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:09 PM |
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No argument from me there, that's for sure. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:11 PM |
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Yes...we all lose. The globalists win. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:16 PM |
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You know something, I know some people that have been driven north |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:22 PM |
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That has been very clear to many Americans since they |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:25 PM |
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Oh, really? For your information, there are waiting lists |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:30 PM |
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My ancestors from Germany had to learn English without |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:35 PM |
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Free? Omfg. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:46 PM |
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That's it...I won't debate with you again since you keep |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 05:00 PM |
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No kidding. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:18 PM |
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So your jails are full of hungry homeless people. |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:33 PM |
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No criminals who broke the laws. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:36 PM |
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Speaking of criminals, how much do we owe China? |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 03:39 PM |
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Most American are opposed to amnesty and not just RWers. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:59 PM |
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You're right. Most Americans are ignorant about |
sfexpat2000 |
Mar-30-08 02:04 PM |
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Most Americans know what is going on. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:19 PM |
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I have an issue with blanket amnesty for all illegals... |
NDambi |
Mar-30-08 02:53 PM |
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I know I have manners unlike you. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:53 PM |
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Yes, your manners are unlike mine. |
rateyes |
Mar-30-08 02:03 PM |
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13 million strike breakers. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:54 PM |
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I thought it was funny when... |
malik flavors |
Mar-30-08 01:15 PM |
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Also, since when did loyalty to the President require one to be.. |
kentuck |
Mar-30-08 01:16 PM |
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Agreed, especially in view of the fact that that president himself was not |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-30-08 01:17 PM |
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You're right--and didn't Bill Clinton try to foist Monica off on Richardson |
bklyncowgirl |
Mar-31-08 05:42 AM |
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Yes...they will ask but there are punishments if you don't. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:22 PM |
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I a do have to say this much on that |
knight_of_the_star |
Mar-30-08 01:25 PM |
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But he is very popular amongst the Hispanic community.... |
kentuck |
Mar-30-08 01:42 PM |
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He's a globalist so both candidates would like him. |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 01:57 PM |
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Richardson is Hispanic |
mac2 |
Mar-30-08 03:20 PM |
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How dare politicians.... |
SunsetDreams |
Mar-30-08 01:27 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Mar-30-08 01:33 PM |
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When is Hillary going o quit? |
Life Long Dem |
Mar-30-08 01:34 PM |
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After she wins. |
LulaMay |
Mar-31-08 04:13 AM |
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I'm lovin' him more and more everyday! |
BattyDem |
Mar-30-08 01:52 PM |
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This business about loyalty to the Clintons reminds me of the "loyalty oaths" during |
Tatiana |
Mar-30-08 01:55 PM |
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Loyalty to Dem voters and the Constitution |
OzarkDem |
Mar-30-08 02:11 PM |
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What does that have to do with Richardson? |
anonymous171 |
Mar-30-08 02:52 PM |
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What a novel idea! Loyalty to our Democratic process, instead of ones self. Hmmmm |
LulaMay |
Mar-31-08 04:15 AM |
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Actually Hitler started that trend with changing the Wehrmach Oath |
Ichingcarpenter |
Mar-30-08 02:19 PM |
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Agreed. n/t |
Tatiana |
Mar-30-08 02:54 PM |
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More important than loyalty to Snakehead? Say it isn't so! |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-30-08 04:44 PM |
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Funny thing loyalty, one's capacity for it can be judged by how he treats his friends. |
LulaMay |
Mar-31-08 04:12 AM |
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 04:17 AM |
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He'll just have to wait and see how that plays out... |
susankh4 |
Mar-31-08 04:22 AM |
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Isn't it awesome of him to put what he thinks is good for his country over his ambitions. |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 04:31 AM |
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Sure he does.... |
susankh4 |
Mar-31-08 04:33 AM |
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Richardson is a good man, and I'm very saddened to see him |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Mar-31-08 04:39 AM |
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I seriously doubt that Mr. Richardson understands the |
cboy4 |
Mar-31-08 04:44 AM |
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He owes his country much more than he owes the Clintons. Sorry |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 04:54 AM |
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The Clintons are far more than friends. |
cboy4 |
Mar-31-08 05:00 AM |
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At no point in my life, would I ever prefer a friend, or somebody who helped me get a job over my |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 05:05 AM |
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This is borderline faux patriotic outrage on your part. |
cboy4 |
Mar-31-08 05:17 AM |
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"This is borderline faux patriotic outrage" |
DerekJ |
Mar-31-08 05:28 AM |
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A President has the right to hire the people he wants to |
cboy4 |
Mar-31-08 05:43 AM |
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Then how did he *DARE* to run against Hillary? n/t |
yodermon |
Mar-31-08 10:37 AM |
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Richardson doesn't have to explain anything. Carville is a dumb ass, who has NO credibility. |
Kerry2008 |
Mar-31-08 10:54 AM |
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