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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. Yes, BUT...
if he came to that conclusion, he's probably ALSO come to the conclusion that Hillary's remaining in a race she can't win, because of ego and ambition, is not a good thing and only DAMAGES the cances of a Democrat winning in November. And there's a hierarchy of loyalty, as noted above; loyalty to party and country should trump personal loyalty. (And it's your conception of loyalty I'm calling twisted, because the idea that someone who was selected to do a job, and did it competently and well, owes anything beyond that is just a bit silly.)
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  -Even if Edwards (the person I voted for), ends up cboy4  Mar-24-08 08:43 PM   #0 
  - You don't support Richardson's loyalty to his party?  YDogg   Mar-24-08 08:45 PM   #1 
  - That's not the loyalty I'm referring to, unfortunately.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 08:53 PM   #7 
     - I'd take loyalty to the principles of the Democratic Party, over those to an indiviual any day  Drachasor   Mar-24-08 09:20 PM   # 
  - He is loyal to the right thing our nation, It sounds like cronyism is important to you  Johnny__Motown   Mar-24-08 08:45 PM   #2 
  - You call it cronyism. I call it loyalty.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 08:51 PM   #3 
     - Bush values loyalty as well - explains many of his appointments.  Umbram   Mar-24-08 08:52 PM   #5 
     - Bingo. n/t  ingac70   Mar-24-08 08:53 PM   #9 
     - That's bullshit...  ingac70   Mar-24-08 08:53 PM   #8 
     - He would be a nobody without them. A big zero without all  cboy4   Mar-24-08 08:56 PM   #10 
        - He was just a lucky token...  ingac70   Mar-24-08 09:02 PM   #18 
        - See, you have the same attitude as Mr. Richardson.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:04 PM   #22 
        - Yes, let's be honest. Richardson was qualified for the positions he earned. Clinton owes him  Johnny__Motown   Mar-24-08 09:02 PM   #19 
           - Do you know that good help is hard to find in the  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:06 PM   #24 
              - So that makes him beholden to the Clintons for the rest of his life?  gmudem   Mar-24-08 09:15 PM   #29 
                 - What a drunken response.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:23 PM   #37 
                    - I guess I'm not surprised you don't understand.  gmudem   Mar-24-08 10:27 PM   #62 
                       - Why don't you just admit you have an intense hatred  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:42 PM   #66 
                          - Sure whatever.  gmudem   Mar-24-08 10:49 PM   #70 
                             - By "sure whatever," is that a concession?  cboy4   Mar-24-08 11:00 PM   #72 
     - Do you actually know the Clintons? Just curious. By the way you're talking...  Ned_Devine   Mar-24-08 09:00 PM   # 
     - I don't know the Clintons. I only know that they hired  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:02 PM   #21 
        - The word loyalty always spooks me  Ned_Devine   Mar-24-08 09:06 PM   #23 
           - Really? You don't expect your significant other to be loyal  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:12 PM   #28 
              - Please don't preach to me  Ned_Devine   Mar-24-08 09:44 PM   #46 
                 - Well you certainly weren't expecting a gentle, cuddly  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:59 PM   #53 
                    - You read a lot more than I wrote, but...  Ned_Devine   Mar-24-08 10:09 PM   #59 
                       - Yea, discussing differences is so scary.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 11:02 PM   #73 
     - Maybe he can't get over the fact that more Latinos  desi   Mar-24-08 09:00 PM   #16 
     - That is pure BS, Richardson earned those positions, Bill Clinton owes Richardson for having served  Johnny__Motown   Mar-24-08 09:01 PM   #17 
  - Loyalty to the Democratic party is more important...  ingac70   Mar-24-08 08:52 PM   # 
  - I think Richardson is a weasel because he wouldn't allow...  Zookeeper   Mar-24-08 08:52 PM   #4 
  - Supreme Court.  Steve_DeShazer   Mar-24-08 08:58 PM   #12 
     - The Supreme Court didn't select Bush in 2004.  Zookeeper   Mar-24-08 09:02 PM   #20 
        - I'm referring to the fact that Obama, Bill R or no Bill R,  Steve_DeShazer   Mar-24-08 09:16 PM   #30 
           - Yeah, I figured that out right after I posted.  Zookeeper   Mar-24-08 09:23 PM   #38 
              - That'll work.  Steve_DeShazer   Mar-24-08 09:27 PM   #40 
  - Loyalty to what?  BuyingThyme   Mar-24-08 08:53 PM   #6 
  - No. Not necessarily.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:00 PM   #15 
  - So 4 of his 23 years of public service were spent in Clinton's cabinet  EmperorHasNoClothes   Mar-24-08 08:58 PM   #11 
  - And yet every shred of "experience" he attempted to  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:16 PM   #31 
     - And yet his status as a superdelegate has nothing whatsoever to do with the Clintons  EmperorHasNoClothes   Mar-24-08 09:18 PM   #32 
     - Diplomacy this, diplomacy that, if been here, I've been there.  MagickMuffin   Mar-25-08 12:01 AM   #76 
  - so if someone hires you and you do a good job there on your own merit,  FLDem5   Mar-24-08 08:59 PM   #13 
  - Of course not...not if something major occurs....  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:19 PM   #33 
  - You're confusing loyalty with nepotism  Wolsh   Mar-24-08 08:59 PM   #14 
  - No I'm not confusing it. All I know is if someone had  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:20 PM   #34 
  - lol, youre messed up in the head. n/t  goletian   Mar-24-08 09:07 PM   #25 
  - I'm loyal to my friends, but some of them I wouldn't recommend professionally  berni_mccoy   Mar-24-08 09:08 PM   #26 
  - You don't care about Integrity I guess?  GoPsUx   Mar-24-08 09:11 PM   #27 
  - He can do math  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-24-08 09:22 PM   #35 
  - He was loyal  adoraz   Mar-24-08 09:22 PM   #36 
  - Richardson is a weasel.  Tennessee Gal   Mar-24-08 09:23 PM   #39 
  - A Judas, right?  Blue-Jay   Mar-24-08 09:28 PM   #41 
  - Edwards was my favorite...  MrsGrumpy   Mar-24-08 09:28 PM   #42 
  - They're good people....and I adore Elizabeth also.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:38 PM   #44 
     - I wish she would have run.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-24-08 09:39 PM   #45 
        - Love you more  cboy4   Mar-24-08 09:50 PM   #50 
           - Love you most...  MrsGrumpy   Mar-24-08 09:52 PM   #51 
              - Speaking of the kids, please promise me you guys will  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:02 PM   #55 
                 - They signed Cabrera to 8 years today.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-24-08 10:04 PM   #56 
                    - Yay.  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:09 PM   #58 
  - Edwards will endorse Obama, Hillary is purposely trying to undermine him for 2012  Pisces   Mar-24-08 09:36 PM   #43 
  - Blind loyalty is not an admirable thing.  Spider Jerusalem   Mar-24-08 09:46 PM   #47 
  - Actually, I'm not in favor of blind loyalty. That would  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:06 PM   #57 
     - It certainly sounds like you favour it.  Spider Jerusalem   Mar-24-08 10:12 PM   #60 
        - Ah, I think you hit on some key words. He came to the  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:18 PM   #61 
           - Yes, BUT...  Spider Jerusalem   Mar-24-08 10:28 PM   #63 
              - I think he wants a job. That's the bottom line......and if that's  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:36 PM   #64 
                 - And maybe he wants a Democrat to win in November...  Spider Jerusalem   Mar-24-08 10:40 PM   #65 
                    - Well, we're starting to side-step into a completely  cboy4   Mar-24-08 10:46 PM   #69 
  - Richardson placed loyalty to his country and party above loyalty to Bill and Hillary.....  scheming daemons   Mar-24-08 09:48 PM   #48 
  - A patriot because he endorsed Obama, give me a break!!!!  Beacool   Mar-24-08 10:50 PM   #71 
  - Richardson is a good man  Upton   Mar-24-08 09:49 PM   #49 
  - So Say He Didn't Agree With  otohara   Mar-24-08 09:57 PM   #52 
  - Screw that! Public servants should be loyal to the public.  Turn CO Blue   Mar-24-08 09:59 PM   #54 
  - CRONYISM! FUCK YEAH!  anonymous171   Mar-24-08 10:43 PM   #67 
  - CAP LOCK! FUCK YEAH!  cboy4   Mar-25-08 02:06 AM   #77 
  - Yep, weasel is the word....................  Beacool   Mar-24-08 10:44 PM   #68 
  - If folks place loyalty in someone without question. It is just as dangerous as when Bushies did it.  cooolandrew   Mar-24-08 11:22 PM   #74 
  - Country, Party, Politician.  baldguy   Mar-24-08 11:33 PM   #75 

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