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Sun Mar-23-08 07:47 PM
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| 58. Media mythology and Clinton spin - EVEN IN MISSISSIPPI |
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He's won mostly white and very blue collar states by landslides.
Texas and Mississippi were skewed by many thousands of votes.
Mississippi, 25% of her White vote were Limbaugh Crossovers... factoring that in, EVEN IN MISSISSIPPI THEY WERE ALMOST EVEN.
Don't you worry about the General Election either.
After Bush there is NO SUCH THING AS A REAGAN DEMOCRAT.
There are however, a lot of damn freepers here pretending to support Clinton that keep restating the corporate media, race and gender HYPE...
AD FLIPPIN NAUSUEM
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| -Why does Clinton do so well with blue collar whites? |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:07 PM |
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mere familiarity |
stellanoir |
Mar-23-08 07:09 PM |
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If the choice is between making a living and vague hoping, hope loses. |
rug |
Mar-23-08 07:10 PM |
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BINGO! n/t |
QC |
Mar-23-08 07:19 PM |
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That's a great retort, but meaningless. |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-23-08 07:25 PM |
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NAFTA is only one part of it. Overall, Clinton has a good history supporting labor. |
rug |
Mar-23-08 07:42 PM |
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Eh. Whatever. |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-23-08 07:44 PM |
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Pssst he's black. |
rwheeler31 |
Mar-23-08 07:10 PM |
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No he's colored |
scard |
Mar-23-08 07:15 PM |
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Not the reason |
JoFerret |
Mar-23-08 07:48 PM |
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media |
enid602 |
Mar-23-08 07:10 PM |
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Brand Name And HIllary Is Seen As More Program And Results Oriented |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-23-08 07:10 PM |
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Yes and Clinton has a proven track record. Obama has just words |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:13 PM |
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What track record? Did she stimulate the economy and |
Middle finga |
Mar-23-08 07:30 PM |
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combination of positive association with the name, and discomfort with idea of a black president |
BklynChick |
Mar-23-08 07:11 PM |
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Ah, typical Obamite classism on display again |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:12 PM |
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Yea, I thought about the race thing... |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:13 PM |
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No, you're doubtless correct. |
dbaker41 |
Mar-23-08 07:35 PM |
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I think they see her as being like them |
nxylas |
Mar-23-08 07:12 PM |
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But she really isn't like them, as I stated in my OP |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:14 PM |
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Perception is everything |
nxylas |
Mar-23-08 07:18 PM |
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Right, but why did so many similar people vote for Bush in overwhelming numbers twice in a row? |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-23-08 07:27 PM |
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they tend to be less informed (on average) |
darboy |
Mar-23-08 07:12 PM |
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I don't know for sure |
Bluzmann57 |
Mar-23-08 07:13 PM |
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Yes, whenever Obama loses it must be because of racism |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:15 PM |
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Now I know why I don't post in here too often |
Bluzmann57 |
Mar-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Don't take it personally |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:25 PM |
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pragmatic and solution oriented |
maddiejoan |
Mar-23-08 07:15 PM |
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It's race and I think everyone here knows it |
Upton |
Mar-23-08 07:16 PM |
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I was trying not to go there |
nxylas |
Mar-23-08 07:20 PM |
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Me too |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:21 PM |
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If that's true then we need to tell it like it is and call them out for being racists. |
totodeinhere |
Mar-23-08 07:21 PM |
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But there's no way to prove anyone's a racist |
maximusveritas |
Mar-23-08 07:28 PM |
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Remember I said "if that's true." |
totodeinhere |
Mar-23-08 07:29 PM |
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NAME RECOGNITION. Race might play a SLIGHT factor, but it is really just the Clinton brand, which ha |
GarbagemanLB |
Mar-23-08 07:18 PM |
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Obama has 97% name recognition |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:25 PM |
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I think it is residential segregation, data supports the idea that we not only worship, & educate |
rosebud57 |
Mar-23-08 07:19 PM |
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Didn't a lot of this demographic vote for Bush? nt |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-23-08 07:20 PM |
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Yea, they wanted to have a beer with him... |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:20 PM |
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I thought so. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-23-08 07:22 PM |
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Ironic to hear that from an Obama supporter... |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:26 PM |
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No. This is about blue collar white Democrats |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:26 PM |
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Bush did carry alot of them |
Jake3463 |
Mar-23-08 07:39 PM |
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Because everyone did better when Bill was in office. |
tasteblind |
Mar-23-08 07:22 PM |
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Because of her health plan people |
MichiganVote |
Mar-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Good question! I have continually wondered about this. |
blonndee |
Mar-23-08 07:23 PM |
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I guess... |
Butch350 |
Mar-23-08 07:23 PM |
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If they wouldn't vote for a "Black Individual," how are they not racists? |
blonndee |
Mar-23-08 07:25 PM |
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The mediawhores manipulate..they get orders |
zidzi |
Mar-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Exceptions and even there Obama did worst among working folks |
jackson_dem |
Mar-23-08 07:28 PM |
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I think it is because of Bill Clinton |
bambino |
Mar-23-08 07:23 PM |
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Maybe because they have trouble identifying with a guy |
okasha |
Mar-23-08 07:25 PM |
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But they easily identify w/ a woman who.. |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:27 PM |
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Reference? |
okasha |
Mar-23-08 08:42 PM |
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LOL, Stanford wasn't a state school.. |
fujiyama |
Mar-23-08 09:01 PM |
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If you think really, really hard |
okasha |
Mar-23-08 09:06 PM |
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Bill Clinton. |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-23-08 07:26 PM |
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It's complex |
Jake3463 |
Mar-23-08 07:38 PM |
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Cause they are scared of the black guy, even my own brother... |
Historic NY |
Mar-23-08 07:37 PM |
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Because Blue Collar Voters are looking for more than a pose |
kennetha |
Mar-23-08 07:41 PM |
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I actually agree with you somewhat |
PM7nj |
Mar-23-08 07:52 PM |
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I thought all the racist migrated to the republican party in the 60's |
Middle finga |
Mar-23-08 07:43 PM |
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I don't know why any working class person would want |
ikojo |
Mar-23-08 07:47 PM |
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"started to take root in the 1990s" |
QC |
Mar-23-08 08:22 PM |
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Media mythology and Clinton spin - EVEN IN MISSISSIPPI |
crankychatter |
Mar-23-08 07:47 PM |
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oops r u a poser 2? |
crankychatter |
Mar-23-08 07:49 PM |
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Gov Rendell: PA voters "not ready" to elect a Black President |
Sensitivity |
Mar-23-08 07:48 PM |
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She changes her grammar before these audiences |
elfin |
Mar-23-08 07:50 PM |
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Joe blue-collar interviewed on the national news: |
TragedyandHope |
Mar-23-08 08:16 PM |
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You mean Obama talks like a faith healer in a tent all the time? |
QC |
Mar-23-08 08:25 PM |
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If you are scared and lack advanced education (and the ability to be upwardly mobile) |
SoCalDem |
Mar-23-08 08:50 PM |
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Fear and familiarity. If they knew about her "garnish" plan, they would flee from her ranks. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-23-08 09:06 PM |
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