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18. NAME RECOGNITION. Race might play a SLIGHT factor, but it is really just the Clinton brand, which ha
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 07:18 PM by GarbagemanLB
s a 12+ year start over Obama in the national news.
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  -Why does Clinton do so well with blue collar whites? PM7nj  Mar-23-08 07:07 PM   #0 
  - mere familiarity  stellanoir   Mar-23-08 07:09 PM   #1 
  - If the choice is between making a living and vague hoping, hope loses.  rug   Mar-23-08 07:10 PM   #2 
  - BINGO! n/t  QC   Mar-23-08 07:19 PM   #20 
  - That's a great retort, but meaningless.  Buzz Clik   Mar-23-08 07:25 PM   #39 
     - NAFTA is only one part of it. Overall, Clinton has a good history supporting labor.  rug   Mar-23-08 07:42 PM   #54 
        - Eh. Whatever.  Buzz Clik   Mar-23-08 07:44 PM   #56 
  - Pssst he's black.  rwheeler31   Mar-23-08 07:10 PM   #3 
  - No he's colored  scard   Mar-23-08 07:15 PM   #16 
  - Not the reason  JoFerret   Mar-23-08 07:48 PM   #60 
  - media  enid602   Mar-23-08 07:10 PM   #4 
  - Brand Name And HIllary Is Seen As More Program And Results Oriented  DemocratSinceBirth   Mar-23-08 07:10 PM   #5 
  - Yes and Clinton has a proven track record. Obama has just words  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:13 PM   #12 
     - What track record? Did she stimulate the economy and  Middle finga   Mar-23-08 07:30 PM   #48 
  - combination of positive association with the name, and discomfort with idea of a black president  BklynChick   Mar-23-08 07:11 PM   #6 
  - Ah, typical Obamite classism on display again  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:12 PM   #7 
  - Yea, I thought about the race thing...  PM7nj   Mar-23-08 07:13 PM   #11 
     - No, you're doubtless correct.  dbaker41   Mar-23-08 07:35 PM   #49 
  - I think they see her as being like them  nxylas   Mar-23-08 07:12 PM   #8 
  - But she really isn't like them, as I stated in my OP  PM7nj   Mar-23-08 07:14 PM   #13 
     - Perception is everything  nxylas   Mar-23-08 07:18 PM   #19 
     - Right, but why did so many similar people vote for Bush in overwhelming numbers twice in a row?  Buzz Clik   Mar-23-08 07:27 PM   #43 
  - they tend to be less informed (on average)  darboy   Mar-23-08 07:12 PM   #9 
  - I don't know for sure  Bluzmann57   Mar-23-08 07:13 PM   #10 
  - Yes, whenever Obama loses it must be because of racism  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:15 PM   #15 
     - Now I know why I don't post in here too often  Bluzmann57   Mar-23-08 07:23 PM   #33 
        - Don't take it personally  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:25 PM   #36 
  - pragmatic and solution oriented  maddiejoan   Mar-23-08 07:15 PM   #14 
  - It's race and I think everyone here knows it  Upton   Mar-23-08 07:16 PM   #17 
  - I was trying not to go there  nxylas   Mar-23-08 07:20 PM   #22 
  - Me too  PM7nj   Mar-23-08 07:21 PM   #26 
  - If that's true then we need to tell it like it is and call them out for being racists.  totodeinhere   Mar-23-08 07:21 PM   #25 
     - But there's no way to prove anyone's a racist  maximusveritas   Mar-23-08 07:28 PM   #45 
        - Remember I said "if that's true."  totodeinhere   Mar-23-08 07:29 PM   #47 
  - NAME RECOGNITION. Race might play a SLIGHT factor, but it is really just the Clinton brand, which ha  GarbagemanLB   Mar-23-08 07:18 PM   #18 
  - Obama has 97% name recognition  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:25 PM   #38 
  - I think it is residential segregation, data supports the idea that we not only worship, & educate  rosebud57   Mar-23-08 07:19 PM   #21 
  - Didn't a lot of this demographic vote for Bush? nt  NC_Nurse   Mar-23-08 07:20 PM   #23 
  - Yea, they wanted to have a beer with him...  PM7nj   Mar-23-08 07:20 PM   #24 
  - I thought so.  NC_Nurse   Mar-23-08 07:22 PM   #28 
  - Ironic to hear that from an Obama supporter...  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:26 PM   #41 
  - No. This is about blue collar white Democrats  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:26 PM   #40 
     - Bush did carry alot of them  Jake3463   Mar-23-08 07:39 PM   #52 
  - Because everyone did better when Bill was in office.  tasteblind   Mar-23-08 07:22 PM   #27 
  - Because of her health plan people  MichiganVote   Mar-23-08 07:23 PM   #29 
  - Good question! I have continually wondered about this.  blonndee   Mar-23-08 07:23 PM   #30 
  - I guess...  Butch350   Mar-23-08 07:23 PM   #31 
  - If they wouldn't vote for a "Black Individual," how are they not racists?  blonndee   Mar-23-08 07:25 PM   #35 
  - The mediawhores manipulate..they get orders  zidzi   Mar-23-08 07:23 PM   #32 
  - Exceptions and even there Obama did worst among working folks  jackson_dem   Mar-23-08 07:28 PM   #46 
  - I think it is because of Bill Clinton  bambino   Mar-23-08 07:23 PM   #34 
  - Maybe because they have trouble identifying with a guy  okasha   Mar-23-08 07:25 PM   #37 
  - But they easily identify w/ a woman who..  PM7nj   Mar-23-08 07:27 PM   #44 
  - Reference?  okasha   Mar-23-08 08:42 PM   #67 
  - LOL, Stanford wasn't a state school..  fujiyama   Mar-23-08 09:01 PM   #69 
     - If you think really, really hard  okasha   Mar-23-08 09:06 PM   #70 
  - Bill Clinton.  Kristi1696   Mar-23-08 07:26 PM   #42 
  - It's complex  Jake3463   Mar-23-08 07:38 PM   #51 
  - Cause they are scared of the black guy, even my own brother...  Historic NY   Mar-23-08 07:37 PM   #50 
  - Because Blue Collar Voters are looking for more than a pose  kennetha   Mar-23-08 07:41 PM   #53 
  - I actually agree with you somewhat  PM7nj   Mar-23-08 07:52 PM   #63 
  - I thought all the racist migrated to the republican party in the 60's  Middle finga   Mar-23-08 07:43 PM   #55 
  - I don't know why any working class person would want  ikojo   Mar-23-08 07:47 PM   #57 
  - "started to take root in the 1990s"  QC   Mar-23-08 08:22 PM   #65 
  - Media mythology and Clinton spin - EVEN IN MISSISSIPPI  crankychatter   Mar-23-08 07:47 PM   #58 
  - oops r u a poser 2?  crankychatter   Mar-23-08 07:49 PM   #61 
  - Gov Rendell: PA voters "not ready" to elect a Black President  Sensitivity   Mar-23-08 07:48 PM   #59 
  - She changes her grammar before these audiences  elfin   Mar-23-08 07:50 PM   #62 
  - Joe blue-collar interviewed on the national news:  TragedyandHope   Mar-23-08 08:16 PM   #64 
  - You mean Obama talks like a faith healer in a tent all the time?  QC   Mar-23-08 08:25 PM   #66 
  - If you are scared and lack advanced education (and the ability to be upwardly mobile)  SoCalDem   Mar-23-08 08:50 PM   #68 
  - Fear and familiarity. If they knew about her "garnish" plan, they would flee from her ranks.  anonymous171   Mar-23-08 09:06 PM   #71 

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