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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:28 PM
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57. Disagree. Public servants owe their loyalty to the PUBLIC
not to the Clintons, nor to Obama - they owe all their best to the ideals that bring about the greater good. Loyalty oaths are for monarchists and fascists - like Bush and his ilk.
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  -You know what Bill Richardson owes Bill Clinton? Not a damn thing. cali  Mar-22-08 12:56 PM   #0 
  - I should be stunned by the Clintons' lack of graciousness--  wienerdoggie   Mar-22-08 12:57 PM   # 
  - Clinton Dynasty demands loyalty above all else! nt  anonymous171   Mar-22-08 12:57 PM   #1 
  - And gives none in return.  jgraz   Mar-22-08 01:20 PM   #16 
  - Except to the AA voters  goclark   Mar-22-08 01:29 PM   #21 
  - Actually, there is such a thing a loyalty.  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:00 PM   #2 
  - That's just absurd.  cali   Mar-22-08 01:02 PM   #3 
  - That's perfectly fine if you feel that way. I just wouldn't  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:15 PM   #11 
  - Yeah, fuck Democracy and the right to voice your convictions! It's ALL about Cronyism!  Bicoastal   Mar-22-08 01:03 PM   #4 
  - Well, he isn't sure whether gay people choose to be  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:17 PM   #13 
  - If anything Edwards stabbed Kerry in the back  karynnj   Mar-22-08 01:14 PM   #10 
  - Well, what ever happened, it's clear Kerry was angry about  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:20 PM   #17 
  - You also missed that Kerry endorsed Obama, but praised HRC and Edwards  karynnj   Mar-22-08 01:50 PM   #34 
     - Yea, Kerry is incapable of believing Edwards can also  cboy4   Mar-22-08 02:13 PM   #41 
        - The problem is that you start by ASSUMING that Edwards is best  karynnj   Mar-22-08 03:06 PM   #50 
  - Have you read Bob Shrum's 2007 book.: No Excuses: Concessions of a Serial Campaigner ??  PRT   Mar-22-08 02:46 PM   #49 
     - Kerry was not a major source - Shrum was an insider  karynnj   Mar-22-08 03:26 PM   #52 
        - I agree that Shrum was an insider & therefore ....  PRT   Mar-22-08 11:38 PM   #53 
           - I 'll just have to disagree  karynnj   Mar-23-08 12:24 AM   #54 
              - I did speak to the negativity of the Edwardses towards John Kerry....  PRT   Mar-23-08 11:15 AM   #55 
                 - Some points  karynnj   Mar-23-08 03:18 PM   #61 
                    - I think we are beginning to speak at cross-purposes...  PRT   Mar-23-08 05:55 PM   #63 
                       - OK  karynnj   Mar-23-08 08:20 PM   #65 
                          - I see your points about Kerry and Edwards, but I'm still not sure that you see mine....  PRT   Mar-24-08 04:16 AM   #68 
                             - I second your comment that it is great to discuss this rationally  karynnj   Mar-24-08 09:29 AM   #69 
  - trust is earned, not owed.  jakem   Mar-22-08 01:18 PM   #14 
  - Of course trust is earned, not owed. I'm talking about  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:21 PM   #18 
     - loyalty is also earned. clearly Richardson didnt feel all that obligated to clintons.  jakem   Mar-22-08 01:23 PM   #20 
        - Yea. He's definitely untrustworthy.  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:29 PM   #22 
           - Clinton didn't make Richardson  Jake3463   Mar-23-08 02:12 PM   #59 
  - That loyalty thing really works great for the  shraby   Mar-22-08 01:48 PM   #29 
  - excuse me? you mean his endorsement of Obama?  ginnyinWI   Mar-22-08 03:11 PM   #51 
  - Disagree. Public servants owe their loyalty to the PUBLIC  Turn CO Blue   Mar-23-08 01:28 PM   #57 
  - RICHARDSON SHOULD BE LOYAL  zonkers   Mar-23-08 08:46 PM   #67 
  - Calm down Sweetie  bahrbearian   Mar-22-08 01:04 PM   #5 
  - um, don't mistake rhetorical style for being upset,  cali   Mar-22-08 01:06 PM   #6 
     - OK , Honey .  bahrbearian   Mar-22-08 01:08 PM   #8 
        - duh.. brilliant  cali   Mar-22-08 01:11 PM   #9 
           - Sweetcakes, I'm not an Idiot, I'm just slow.  bahrbearian   Mar-22-08 01:18 PM   #15 
  - And some people still wonder why we get a  shadowknows69   Mar-22-08 01:06 PM   #7 
  - Precisely.  VolcanoJen   Mar-22-08 01:15 PM   #12 
  - I don't think he owes him anything either, but the anger quotient doesn't serve your point  ruggerson   Mar-22-08 01:23 PM   #19 
  - Actually what does he owe Hillary - as she is the one running!  dmordue   Mar-22-08 01:37 PM   #23 
  - His constituents voted for her  dsc   Mar-22-08 01:43 PM   #27 
     - It was less than 1%  cali   Mar-22-08 01:48 PM   #31 
        - I never said you did  dsc   Mar-22-08 01:53 PM   #38 
  - loyalty is to the constitution. nothing else.  knixphan   Mar-22-08 01:39 PM   #24 
  - I can't believe what I'm reading. You're not loyal to your  cboy4   Mar-22-08 01:50 PM   #33 
  - Fealty? Royal family? Last time I checked, reciprocity was a good thing  Fredda Weinberg   Mar-22-08 01:41 PM   #25 
  - Reciprocity? Richardson did that in performing his job  cali   Mar-22-08 01:45 PM   #28 
     - As a rule,  H2O Man   Mar-23-08 05:58 PM   #64 
  - According to some here....and Carvell  DearAbby   Mar-22-08 01:42 PM   #26 
  - What does Obama owe Richardson now?  rug   Mar-22-08 01:48 PM   #30 
  - I have no idea  cali   Mar-22-08 01:50 PM   #32 
  - Just an educated guess.  rug   Mar-22-08 01:54 PM   #39 
  - In the best of all worlds, just a sincere thank you  karynnj   Mar-22-08 01:51 PM   #35 
  - The Clintons have no one to blame but themselves. Richardson wanted to endorse Hillary.  Tatiana   Mar-22-08 01:52 PM   #36 
  - I agree  tammywammy   Mar-22-08 01:53 PM   #37 
  - The clintons only believe in "loyalty" when  zidzi   Mar-22-08 01:59 PM   #40 
  - Richardson would be about an 11- or 12-term Congressman...  gulliver   Mar-22-08 02:17 PM   #42 
  - You know this how?  cali   Mar-22-08 02:29 PM   #46 
     - Agreed  Jake3463   Mar-23-08 02:15 PM   #60 
  - 3:00 AM He emialed the Clintons his Obama endorsement!  Life Long Dem   Mar-22-08 02:20 PM   #43 
  - Exactly! Saying that Richardson "owes" them implies that he wasn't qualified for the position  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-22-08 02:21 PM   #44 
  - The Clinton's...  Citizen Kang   Mar-22-08 02:22 PM   #45 
  - K n R  BushDespiser12   Mar-22-08 02:30 PM   #47 
  - Bill Clinton chose Richardson for his good judgment..  ejbr   Mar-22-08 02:34 PM   #48 
  - Which is exactly what he'll be receiving in return.  LVjinx   Mar-23-08 11:48 AM   #56 
  - very true. n/t  OhioBlue   Mar-23-08 01:58 PM   #58 
  - We went through this when people were upset with Kerry for  JerseygirlCT   Mar-23-08 03:28 PM   #62 
  - he came off as a cheesy clown, what with the new beard and all  dusmcj   Mar-23-08 08:34 PM   #66 
  - "It should reflect the vote of my state,  BigDDem   Mar-24-08 09:35 AM   #70 
 

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