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74. Just because they're friends, doesn't preclude the fact that he can endorse whomever he wants
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 12:20 AM by tammywammy
He didn't repeat the conversation, all he said was that it didn't go well. And Carville coming out and calling Richardson Hillary's Judas isn't really helping matters.

Richardson's reply to the Clinton campaign

""I resent the fact that the Clinton people are now saying that my endorsement is too late because I only can help with Texans with Texas and Hispanics, implying that that's my only value," the New Mexico governor told CNN's John King.

"That's typical of some of his advisers that kind of turned me off."Earlier Friday, Clinton campaign senior strategist Mark Penn said he thought Richardson's endorsement came too late to make an impact.

The time that he could have been effective has long since passed," Penn told reporters on a conference call. "I dont think it is a significant endorsement in this environment." /

No matter that he said the phone conversation was "painful", the Clinton campaign has then said in effect that Richardson only helps with the Hispanic voters and is like Judas. If the Clintons think so highly of Richardson, you'd think they would reign in their surrogates.
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  -Carville calls Richardson's endorsement an "act of betrayal." madfloridian  Mar-21-08 11:08 PM   #0 
  - The Clintons are pissed, they know what Richardsons endorsement means  DJ13   Mar-21-08 11:10 PM   #1 
  - They wouldn't even have to go quietly - just go with Class.  Kittycat   Mar-21-08 11:11 PM   #3 
  - Why don't you get your canididate to drop out? His supporters are really tacky  splat   Mar-21-08 11:42 PM   #58 
  - Why would the front runner drop out?  Alexander   Mar-22-08 12:41 AM   #79 
  - as tacky as you?  cali   Mar-22-08 04:25 AM   #101 
  - Is calling Obama's supporters "tacky" all you've got?  totodeinhere   Mar-22-08 07:25 AM   #116 
  - Hillary is NOT going to be elected President. Get Over It.  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-24-08 10:00 PM   #167 
  - How 'bout "just far away as possible"...  misanthrope   Mar-23-08 02:25 AM   #154 
  - We need Gore to endorse Obama and end this sorry mess once and for all.  grytpype   Mar-21-08 11:12 PM   #8 
  - He should have done it before Super Tuesday.  DJ13   Mar-21-08 11:16 PM   #17 
  - Losing respect for AL GORE?  musicblind   Mar-21-08 11:36 PM   #51 
  - I can't imagine much that would make me lose respect for Gore.  blonndee   Mar-21-08 11:42 PM   #57 
  - Losing respect for Gore?  tammywammy   Mar-21-08 11:48 PM   #61 
  - Amen.....................  pauldg0   Mar-22-08 12:10 AM   #72 
     - amen squared  mythyc   Mar-22-08 05:14 AM   #108 
        - This is a perfect time for him to step-into all this.  pauldg0   Mar-23-08 10:29 PM   #158 
  - Way to go, O-bot.  dbaker41   Mar-22-08 10:58 PM   #150 
     - This is great..........  pauldg0   Mar-23-08 10:32 PM   #159 
  - I doubt if even that would cause Clinton to drop out.  totodeinhere   Mar-22-08 07:26 AM   #117 
  - Bunch of liars  keep_it_real   Mar-21-08 11:16 PM   #16 
  - I'll repeat myself from the other thread  KingOfLostSouls   Mar-21-08 11:10 PM   #2 
  - Oops, I checked for another thread by searching for Carville.  madfloridian   Mar-21-08 11:12 PM   #5 
  - He's sleeping with the enemy....  PatGund   Mar-22-08 12:47 AM   #82 
  - Carville sounds like a big ol' crybaby  slinkerwink   Mar-21-08 11:11 PM   #4 
  - And, assuming what Woodward wrote is true, would Carville call it  dflprincess   Mar-21-08 11:12 PM   #6 
  - Richardson took the ring of power and now Carville is pissed.  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-21-08 11:12 PM   #7 
  - gollum!  slinkerwink   Mar-21-08 11:14 PM   #10 
  - Oh, my god, what a resemblance.  keep_it_real   Mar-21-08 11:15 PM   #14 
  - LOL  wileedog   Mar-21-08 11:17 PM   #19 
  - Twins separated at birth!  No Surrender   Mar-21-08 11:18 PM   #21 
  - LOL- what a resemblance!  ZinZen   Mar-21-08 11:31 PM   # 
  - That is ERIE!  musicblind   Mar-21-08 11:42 PM   #59 
  - "Erie" is one of the Great Lakes.  dbaker41   Mar-22-08 11:00 PM   #151 
     - Oops, sorry my dad works for the insurance company Erie named after the city. I'm so used to typing  musicblind   Mar-23-08 02:21 AM   #153 
  - If I looked like that, I think I'd shave my ass and walk backwards!!  NotGonnaTakeIt   Mar-22-08 12:04 AM   #70 
  - Judas  Patsy Stone   Mar-21-08 11:13 PM   #9 
  - He must have had a good reason for betraying them.  keep_it_real   Mar-21-08 11:14 PM   #11 
  - great OP  grantcart   Mar-21-08 11:14 PM   #12 
  - That's right...  kentuck   Mar-21-08 11:15 PM   #13 
  - Carville is a fucktard who EPITOMIZES everything WRONG with the party.  Political Heretic   Mar-21-08 11:16 PM   #15 
  - You're not representing Dems real well yourself  splat   Mar-21-08 11:44 PM   #60 
  - I do just fine.  Political Heretic   Mar-22-08 05:04 AM   #107 
  - I have to agree with you...  fadedrose   Mar-22-08 12:10 AM   #71 
  - That kind of filthy rhetoric by Carville is actually mild compared to the bile the HRC boosters here  apocalypsehow   Mar-21-08 11:17 PM   #18 
  - Well, as long as we're doing Easter weekend analogies ...  NanceGreggs   Mar-21-08 11:18 PM   #20 
  - LOL! - - - -  Old Crusoe   Mar-21-08 11:49 PM   #63 
  - Beautiful.....  madfloridian   Mar-22-08 11:17 AM   #135 
  - Nance, I almost hate to point this out ...  dbaker41   Mar-22-08 11:03 PM   #152 
  - Says the guy who leaked Kerry campaign secrets to his Republitard wife  jgraz   Mar-21-08 11:18 PM   #22 
  - THANK YOU, no shit  Firespirit   Mar-22-08 04:55 AM   #104 
  - Not only is Carville a traitor to the party but to Democracy (MILLION $ ASSHOLE):  mod mom   Mar-22-08 08:05 AM   #124 
     - Can we kick him out of the party now?  tbyg52   Mar-22-08 11:17 AM   #134 
  - 30 pieces of silver  crispini   Mar-21-08 11:18 PM   #23 
  - No shit crispini  tammywammy   Mar-21-08 11:29 PM   #40 
     - And the weird thing is, the HRC campaign would've shouted for Barabbas  Ken Burch   Mar-22-08 08:21 AM   #129 
  - Carville and his ilk are better  woodsprite   Mar-21-08 11:20 PM   #24 
  - you can't compare Carville to Rove  dwickham   Mar-22-08 01:16 AM   #87 
  - I thought it was a betrayal of Richardson for HRC to claim foreign policy expertise  JoeIsOneOfUs   Mar-21-08 11:20 PM   #25 
  - Excellent point!  havocmom   Mar-21-08 11:30 PM   #41 
  - If there's a big ol steaming pile of  zidzi   Mar-21-08 11:21 PM   #26 
  - I don't think other superdelegates would like Richardson being trashed  slinkerwink   Mar-21-08 11:24 PM   #32 
  - You wouldn't think so but the clintonaires  zidzi   Mar-21-08 11:32 PM   #46 
  - Ouch  tammywammy   Mar-21-08 11:27 PM   #36 
     - I think it has gravitas and  zidzi   Mar-21-08 11:36 PM   #50 
        - I agree  tammywammy   Mar-21-08 11:39 PM   #55 
        - It's just another example of their short term thinking.  myrna minx   Mar-22-08 01:30 AM   #91 
  - After the 2006 blowout, they wanted to replace Dean with Harold Fucking DLC Ford...  Cooley Hurd   Mar-21-08 11:22 PM   #27 
  - Yes, how DARE the Democratic Party regain both houses in congress!  George Oilwellian   Mar-21-08 11:39 PM   #54 
  - Carville's reaction to the '06 election inspired me to post this poll  rocknation   Mar-22-08 09:19 PM   #147 
  - I wouldn't sweat it.. Comments like that just show he's another wackjob  ericgtr   Mar-21-08 11:22 PM   #28 
  - Carville calls Richardson's endorsement a betrayal?  Liberal Gramma   Mar-21-08 11:23 PM   #29 
  - but, but, but, Mark Penn  ZinZen   Mar-21-08 11:34 PM   #47 
     - Yeah, they need to get their stories straight..  zidzi   Mar-21-08 11:51 PM   #64 
  - Bill Richardson has gone up a bunch more notches in my estimation  housewolf   Mar-21-08 11:23 PM   #30 
  - Jesus Christ How many very good rising Democratic stars are the Clinton camp...  acrosstheuniverse   Mar-21-08 11:25 PM   #34 
  - Carville is a dirty, rotten low life SOB like his masters.  tabasco   Mar-21-08 11:24 PM   #31 
  - Carville and his candidate are drowning...  backscatter712   Mar-21-08 11:25 PM   #33 
  - Carville's statements show the kind of trash the Clintons foster in this election.  kwenu   Mar-21-08 11:26 PM   #35 
  - It would seem to me, Mr. Carville, that anybody who...  dchill   Mar-21-08 11:28 PM   #37 
  - he's been lying with the enemy  slinkerwink   Mar-21-08 11:28 PM   #38 
  - Yes, it's ALL about the lying.  dchill   Mar-21-08 11:31 PM   #43 
  - Two buckets of piss sleeping in the same bed.  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-21-08 11:31 PM   #44 
  - OK, that REALLY shouldn't be allowed.  dchill   Mar-21-08 11:49 PM   #62 
  - Damn! Put a warning on that!! I nearly spat my water...  michele77   Mar-24-08 07:18 PM   #165 
  - Such a lovely couple! lol  PerfectSage   Mar-21-08 11:54 PM   #65 
  - true acts of betrayal  damndude   Mar-21-08 11:29 PM   #39 
  - Now WHERE Have I Heard This Before ???  WillyT   Mar-21-08 11:30 PM   #42 
  - To me, these are telling comments. I can't imagine that Dodd and Richardson  blonndee   Mar-21-08 11:34 PM   #48 
     - BINGO !!! - Excellent Point !!!  WillyT   Mar-22-08 12:02 AM   #68 
     - Those comments have been with me all day.  XemaSab   Mar-22-08 01:55 AM   #97 
  - You know what? LET THEM SAY THAT CRAP.  blonndee   Mar-21-08 11:32 PM   #45 
  - In that Whore's world, favors are the coin of the realm. Fuck him.  Bonobo   Mar-21-08 11:35 PM   #49 
  - Richardson owed the Clinton's nothing. He did his job for Bill  book_worm   Mar-21-08 11:37 PM   #52 
  - Carville Showed His True Colors When He Dissed Dean  lligrd   Mar-21-08 11:38 PM   #53 
  - What a melodramatic @ss. n/t  sfexpat2000   Mar-21-08 11:39 PM   #56 
  - "I talked to Senator Clinton last night, "Let me tell you: weve had better conversations"  kerry-is-my-prez   Mar-21-08 11:57 PM   #66 
  - Seriously?  tammywammy   Mar-22-08 12:02 AM   #69 
     - He's not supposed to be good friends of the Clintons and then turned on them.  kerry-is-my-prez   Mar-22-08 12:11 AM   #73 
        - Just because they're friends, doesn't preclude the fact that he can endorse whomever he wants  tammywammy   Mar-22-08 12:14 AM   #74 
        - No it doesn't - but it certainly tells you something about him and his friendships.  kerry-is-my-prez   Mar-22-08 12:34 AM   #75 
           - it certainly tells you how he perceives their destroying the democratic party  slinkerwink   Mar-22-08 12:39 AM   #78 
           - No it doesn't  tammywammy   Mar-22-08 12:42 AM   #81 
           - Or maybe tells you something about his integrity.  Voice for Peace   Mar-22-08 12:50 AM   #84 
              - The fact he had to report back to the media about the phone call he had w/them  kerry-is-my-prez   Mar-22-08 01:28 AM   #90 
                 - if the Clinton's are such friends with Richardson  johnnydrama   Mar-22-08 06:01 AM   #112 
        - Maybe the phonecall was painful because he learned that they are no longer friends.  JVS   Mar-22-08 12:42 AM   #80 
  - The Clintons sound like the Mafia. What a mean crowd they have around them.  David Zephyr   Mar-21-08 11:58 PM   #67 
  - "You broke my heart, Bill. I know it was you."  backscatter712   Mar-22-08 01:43 AM   #96 
     - Do you mean this?  David Zephyr   Mar-22-08 01:33 PM   #139 
        - Pretty close.  backscatter712   Mar-22-08 05:05 PM   #142 
  - Carville should talk. If there ever was a Judus, Carville fits the mold perfectly /nt  still_one   Mar-22-08 12:38 AM   #76 
  - Richardson is doing the RIGHT and MORAL thing  crankychatter   Mar-22-08 12:38 AM   #77 
  - So... Hillary Clinton is Christ?  Mooney   Mar-22-08 12:48 AM   #83 
  - Yeah, no kidding.  DangerousRhythm   Mar-22-08 04:24 AM   #100 
     - The Clintons have been Carville's meal ticket for 16 years.  Mooney   Mar-22-08 08:44 AM   #130 
  - The killer line in the piece:  VolcanoJen   Mar-22-08 01:02 AM   #85 
  - What is "fewer than 5?"  FrenchieCat   Mar-22-08 01:41 AM   #94 
  - Fewer than 70 have moved into the Clinton column.  XemaSab   Mar-22-08 01:59 AM   #98 
  - Jiminy Crickethead Carville IS A TRAITOR  zulchzulu   Mar-22-08 01:05 AM   #86 
  - Bill Richardson Is DEAD To the Clinton's  otohara   Mar-22-08 01:22 AM   #88 
  - Thank you Bill Richardson for attempting to put this to an end for the sake of the GE  AgadorSparticus   Mar-22-08 01:25 AM   #89 
  - It's more like a selfish gamble.  Hoof Hearted   Mar-22-08 01:32 AM   #92 
  - Not in your fairy tale in the Twilight Zone, anyways......  FrenchieCat   Mar-22-08 01:42 AM   #95 
  - Gross.  XemaSab   Mar-22-08 01:35 AM   #93 
  - I wouldn't think they would get upset over someone so "insignificant"  CreekDog   Mar-22-08 02:01 AM   #99 
  - Much less even comment on it  WolverineDG   Mar-22-08 07:50 AM   #121 
  - Carville married a Dick Cheney Lover .... Checkmate, Richardson n/t  kevinmc   Mar-22-08 04:31 AM   #102 
  - If Carville called Richardson Judas, he is Pilate's Ass  McCamy Taylor   Mar-22-08 04:31 AM   #103 
  - Ok Carville we hard the Kerry story where he told him not enough votes to count.  cooolandrew   Mar-22-08 05:01 AM   #105 
  - And Hillary supporters call Obama's campaign religious.  Firespirit   Mar-22-08 05:02 AM   #106 
  - James is an idiot  GoPsUx   Mar-22-08 05:19 AM   #109 
  - ...or maybe she threatened to cut IT off.  Buns_of_Fire   Mar-22-08 07:59 AM   #123 
  - Carville is just a douchebag. If it weren't for Ross Perot, Bubba never would have been President.  Major Hogwash   Mar-22-08 05:29 AM   #110 
  - deleted dupe  misanthrope   Mar-23-08 02:38 AM   # 
  - AMEN!!!**nm  misanthrope   Mar-23-08 02:38 AM   #155 
  - And why wasn't Carville advising her campaign? Betrayed or Betrayer?  JTFrog   Mar-22-08 05:38 AM   #111 
  - Carville? Wasn't he the one who made the real 3 a.m. phone  rzemanfl   Mar-22-08 06:21 AM   #113 
  - That was just unnecessarily nasty on Carville's part.  bklyncowgirl   Mar-22-08 07:13 AM   #114 
  - fucking Carville can jump up my ass.  ulysses   Mar-22-08 07:22 AM   #115 
  - It is.  shayes51   Mar-22-08 07:36 AM   # 
  - No rational basis for his charge...  Orsino   Mar-22-08 07:36 AM   #118 
  - Very well said.  madfloridian   Mar-22-08 03:36 PM   #141 
  - And they call Obama the cult-like figure? Carville thinks she's Christ on the Cross.  tekisui   Mar-22-08 07:39 AM   #119 
  - No he doesn't.  JerseygirlCT   Mar-22-08 08:07 AM   #126 
  - Pot, meet kettle  WolverineDG   Mar-22-08 07:40 AM   #120 
  - Richardson might be having a midlife crisis,growing beard and all  Algorem   Mar-22-08 07:53 AM   #122 
  - Carville talking about betrayal. That's rich. nt  JerseygirlCT   Mar-22-08 08:06 AM   #125 
  - Carville should recognize that republicans are voting in huge numbers to make her the nominee lately  Bensthename   Mar-22-08 08:08 AM   #127 
  - James Carville, hmm, name is familiar, oh! He is on TV sometimes, alongside his wife,  nealmhughes   Mar-22-08 08:15 AM   #128 
  - Enough of these people  DeschutesRiver   Mar-22-08 09:04 AM   #131 
  - I hope he loses a lot of sleep over it  catgirl   Mar-22-08 09:40 AM   #132 
  - Richardson owes his prominence to Bill Clinton  JoFerret   Mar-22-08 09:48 AM   #133 
  - Which elected office has Carville held?  TomBall Democrat   Mar-22-08 11:23 AM   #136 
  - Richardson has his own merits - of course. but clinton  JoFerret   Mar-22-08 03:29 PM   #140 
     - Yes, he did good service to our country  TomBall Democrat   Mar-22-08 08:30 PM   #144 
  - Let me see if I follow.  VolcanoJen   Mar-22-08 12:47 PM   #137 
  - Carville's married to Cheney apologist, that's "betrayal" to the human race.  against all enemies   Mar-22-08 12:49 PM   #138 
  - hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... n/t  HooptieWagon   Mar-22-08 05:21 PM   #143 
  - So Mark Penn was blowing smoke about Richardson't endorsement  eleny   Mar-22-08 08:36 PM   #145 
  - Carville is a moron.  The Godfather   Mar-22-08 08:40 PM   #146 
  - The Clintons have no class as evidenced by their association with Carville. rec'd  williesgirl   Mar-22-08 09:58 PM   #148 
  - BINGO. nm  rhett o rick   Mar-22-08 10:56 PM   #149 
  - He would know ALL about "acts of betrayal".  VenusRising   Mar-23-08 03:41 AM   #156 
  - Somebody put a muzzle on that little Cajun yap-yap  SoCalDem   Mar-23-08 03:53 AM   #157 
  - We can only hope  Iwillnevergiveup   Mar-23-08 10:55 PM   #160 
  - First, public discussion (this kind of talk) is not the problem.  Deep13   Mar-24-08 04:54 PM   #161 
  - Carville is a junk yard dog, but he's OUR junkyard dog.  RichardRay   Mar-24-08 05:00 PM   #162 
  - Carville has been married to a republican for too long  Joey Liberal   Mar-24-08 05:05 PM   #163 
  - pretty much the death knell for Clinton '08  themartyred   Mar-24-08 05:29 PM   #164 
  - After election 2004 Carville has no business calling anyone a traitor--projection  diane in sf   Mar-24-08 09:58 PM   #166 
  - Carville really needs to just shut up. Is he even relevant anymore?  AllyCat   Mar-24-08 11:08 PM   #168 
  - Richardson can endorse an armadillo for all some of us are concerned.  Beacool   Mar-24-08 11:22 PM   #169 
  - Proof that Clintons are political hacks in the classic sense.  Bonobo   Mar-24-08 11:24 PM   #170 
  - Hey Carville, you made it on my...  NM Independent   Mar-25-08 09:56 AM   #171 
  - Was it a betrayal to run against her in the first place?  theboss   Mar-25-08 10:01 AM   #172 

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