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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. You are incorrect.
you did not read what Kerry said between the lines. Yes, he was not as blatant as you would like, but look at his record, his policies will be more like Clinton's than Bush.

In the support of Bush's policy that you reference, Kerry said with no ambiguity, that he would insure that negotiations resume, and not ignore Israel and the Palestinians like bush did...

If you want "in your face" talk from Kerry, then he will end up like Dean. The most important thing is that he gets in. I know a fair negotiated settlement will be possible then.

This is not to take anything away from Dean, he was necessary to bring the passion and unity back to the party, but the press destroyed him. Kerry has to tread carefully, because the mainstream media is doing everything they can to slur him. bush gets a free pass
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  -Kerry bows to neocons and completely abandons Clinton's peace plan! Classical_Liberal  May-03-04 11:57 PM   #0 
  - Yessssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Jim Sagle   May-03-04 11:59 PM   #1 
  - why not just vote for Bush if you like his policies  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:03 AM   #3 
     - I'm a Democrat. I support Kerry. Any other questions?  Jim Sagle   May-04-04 01:15 AM   #32 
        - Did you support Clinton, the one Kerry betrayed?  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:17 AM   #35 
           - Yes. But Kerry didn't betray him. He only disagreed with him. So do I.  Jim Sagle   May-04-04 01:26 AM   #41 
              - If you don't like that I am complaining tough  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:29 AM   #44 
                 - I couldn't care less, actually.  Jim Sagle   May-04-04 02:58 AM   #60 
  - Dupe  madeuplikebowie   May-04-04 12:00 AM   #2 
  - I have noticed that when most folks call a "dupe"  Sinistrous   May-04-04 12:05 AM   #4 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-04-04 12:05 AM   #5 
  - Conservatives has defined the national agenda for years to come  togiak   May-04-04 12:07 AM   #6 
  - He's not going to rebuild america's image by licking Sharon's butt  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:09 AM   #7 
  - The only way that agenda will be defined is if Kerry loses  still_one   May-04-04 12:26 AM   #12 
     - and if Kerry defines it the same way as Bush then that  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:30 AM   #15 
  - I heard Kerry's speech before the anti-defamation league  still_one   May-04-04 12:16 AM   #8 
  - Clinton won most Jews  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:19 AM   #9 
  - He NEVER said "Clinton Fucked Up"  still_one   May-04-04 12:23 AM   #10 
  - I hate Sharon with good reason. I don't hate Israel I do hate settlements  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:26 AM   #13 
  - Incidently, Kerry will win most Jews also, but in addition  still_one   May-04-04 12:25 AM   #11 
  - I think most of them will go for nader or Bush now that he has said  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:27 AM   #14 
     - You are incorrect.  still_one   May-04-04 12:37 AM   #18 
        - He will end up like Dean if he simply says he will persue  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:42 AM   #20 
        - Telling People to Read Between the Lines  Terry_M   May-04-04 12:55 AM   #25 
  - Bush is polling better with Jews now then in 2000  MAlibdem   May-04-04 07:19 PM   #71 
  - First of all  RafterMan   May-04-04 12:35 AM   #16 
  - It was a starting point  still_one   May-04-04 12:40 AM   #19 
  - Who will Kerry negotiate with?  IndianaGreen   May-04-04 07:41 AM   #64 
  - I'm glad Kerry is proud.  gate of the sun   May-04-04 12:35 AM   #17 
  - Doesn't matter to me  still_one   May-04-04 12:43 AM   #21 
     - They don't want to win.  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:44 AM   #22 
        - You have no idea, and Kerry will win.  still_one   May-04-04 12:48 AM   #23 
           - Not because of himself.  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 12:51 AM   #24 
              - How do you account for  still_one   May-04-04 12:56 AM   #26 
                 - I think that was before the last week  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:01 AM   #27 
                 - I respectively disagree with you  still_one   May-04-04 01:10 AM   #29 
                    - His voting record on this issue isn't very good either  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:14 AM   #31 
                    - Kerry is not a neocon  still_one   May-04-04 01:17 AM   #34 
                       - His foreign policy is no different  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:20 AM   #36 
                       - My response  still_one   May-04-04 01:25 AM   #40 
                          - Kerry could easily assure me that he supports two states  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:28 AM   #42 
                          - understood...  still_one   May-04-04 01:29 AM   #45 
                          - I didn't believe it because zero evidence was presented to me  Terry_M   May-04-04 01:32 AM   #48 
                       - Kerry is a PPI imperialist  IndianaGreen   May-04-04 07:46 AM   #67 
                    - The Road Map is dead!  IndianaGreen   May-04-04 07:45 AM   #66 
                 - The problem is  RafterMan   May-04-04 01:05 AM   #28 
                    - What presidential envoy are you refering to?  still_one   May-04-04 01:13 AM   #30 
                       - Clinton Carter and Baker  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:15 AM   #33 
                          - Nothing is wrong with Clinton and Carter  still_one   May-04-04 01:20 AM   #37 
                             - Baker isn't bad as a peace envoy.  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:22 AM   #38 
                             - So  RafterMan   May-04-04 01:24 AM   #39 
                                - An honest broker does not do what bush did  still_one   May-04-04 01:29 AM   #43 
                                   - Why did Kerry agree with Bush's plan if it is "nuts"?  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:30 AM   #46 
                                   - politics, just like Richard Clarke said  still_one   May-04-04 01:32 AM   #47 
                                      - Several times  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:44 AM   #52 
                                   - Of course Bush is nuts  RafterMan   May-04-04 01:38 AM   #50 
  - this came as a surprise to me, (re: Clinton)  G_j   May-04-04 01:33 AM   #49 
  - I supported it, too  RafterMan   May-04-04 01:43 AM   #51 
  - Gaza is icing since it isn't part of traditional israel  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:47 AM   #54 
  - It was conditional endorsement  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:46 AM   #53 
     - No matter what anyone says  still_one   May-04-04 01:49 AM   #55 
        - It won't under either administration if we beleive Kerry  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:52 AM   #56 
        - I completely agree that  G_j   May-04-04 01:57 AM   #58 
           - I wish they would start picking up the slack  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 01:59 AM   #59 
        - But the didn't give them up  RafterMan   May-04-04 01:55 AM   #57 
  - I'm doing the unthinkable  incapsulated   May-04-04 03:51 AM   #61 
  - Why not? There is no difference between PNAC and PPI imperialism  IndianaGreen   May-04-04 07:37 AM   #63 
  - Not good.  The Backlash Cometh   May-04-04 07:15 AM   #62 
  - Bush/Bush-lite  DaveSZ   May-04-04 07:45 AM   #65 
  - kick  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 11:14 AM   #68 
  - Well, I hope this means that Kerry will not get Arab and Muslim support  Larkspur   May-04-04 11:58 AM   #69 
  - kick  Classical_Liberal   May-04-04 06:42 PM   #70 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-04-04 08:17 PM   #72 
 

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