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metalluk Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 05:28 PM
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52. The great MLK
was not running for public office when he gave his speech. It was an act of pure, selfless courage and a great moment in the battle for civil rights.

Obama's speech was motivated by political necessity, to save his campaign.

In his speech, Obama reversed his previous denials that he had ever heard Rev. Wright engage in inflammatory rhetoric of the anti-American variety. I don't personally care whether he did or did not hear the good Reverand's rhetoric (most of which is rooted in truth and only "wrong" by Wright's propensity for hyperbole and flame language). I do prefer, however, that political candidates get their stories straight. It's hard to have confidence in politicians who exhibit a sliding scale of truth, as in the case of Bill Clinton's responses when the Lewinsky affair first came to light.

The speech was undoubtedly well-written and well-delivered. Obama's fans were enthralled. Did he put the issue to rest? Not in the slightest.

Here's an excerpt from an article written by Jeff Jacoby for the Boston Globe, in one of the nation's most liberal states:

"In Philadelphia yesterday, Obama gave a graceful speech on the theme of race and unity in American life. Much of what he said was eloquent and stirring, not least his opening paean to the Founders and the Constitution - a document "stained by the nation's original sin of slavery," as he said, yet also one "that had at its very core the ideal of equal citizenship under the law; a Constitution that promised its people liberty, and justice, and a union that could be and should be perfected over time." There was an echo there of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., who in his great "I Have a Dream" speech extolled "the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence" as "a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir."

The problem for Obama is that Wright, the spiritual leader he has so long embraced, is a devotee not of King, - who in that same speech warned against "drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred" - but of the poisonous hatemonger Louis Farrakhan, whom the church's magazine honored with a lifetime achievement award. The problem for Obama, who campaigns on a message of racial reconciliation, is that the "mentor" whose church he joined and has generously supported is a disciple not of King but of James Cone, founder of a "black liberation" theology that teaches its adherents to "accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

Above all, the problem for Obama is that for two decades his spiritual home has been a church in which the minister damns America to the enthusiastic approval of the congregation, and not until it threatened to scuttle his political ambitions did Obama finally find the mettle to condemn the minister's odium.

When Don Imus uttered his infamous slur on the radio last year, Obama cut him no slack. Imus should be fired, he said. "There's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group."

When it came to Wright, however, he wasn't nearly so categorical. Oh, he's "like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," Obama indulgently explained to one interviewer. He's just "trying to be provocative," he told another." Far from severing his ties to Wright, Obama made him a member of his Religious Leadership Committee -- a tie he finally cut only four days ago."

Such a clanging double standard raises doubts about Obama's character and judgment, and about his fitness for the role of race-transcending healer. Yesterday's speech was finely crafted, but it leaves some troubling questions unanswered."
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  -most important speech on race since MLK wrando  Mar-19-08 04:13 PM   #0 
  - I have a follow up question  DJ13   Mar-19-08 04:16 PM   #1 
  - sexsism  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:27 PM   #5 
     - China in the 90's was more about human rights and bill is the last one to speak on the subject. n/t  Exilednight   Mar-19-08 05:18 PM   #46 
        - women's rights at the top  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:24 PM   #50 
           - Not gutsy at all. What were they going to do? Throw out the first lady of the United States?......  Exilednight   Mar-19-08 05:35 PM   #56 
              - Yea , you're right it was nothing  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:56 PM   #62 
  - Barf  mac2   Mar-19-08 04:24 PM   #2 
  - There was nothing "safe" about that speech  JFN1   Mar-19-08 04:25 PM   #3 
     - everything was safe  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:30 PM   #6 
     - Think so?  JFN1   Mar-19-08 05:23 PM   #49 
        - apples and oranges  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:29 PM   #53 
           - Okay  JFN1   Mar-19-08 05:38 PM   #58 
              - my point exactly  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:50 PM   #60 
     - If there was it would have been all over the media.  mac2   Mar-19-08 04:31 PM   #7 
        - BINGO  Texas Hill Country   Mar-19-08 05:32 PM   #55 
  - Can you think of a better one?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:26 PM   #4 
  - yea right  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:32 PM   #8 
  - So... no?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:33 PM   #10 
     - no  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:50 PM   #24 
        - OK, great.  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:56 PM   #27 
           - what ?  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:58 PM   #31 
              - Can you think of a better speech then Obama's since MLKs on the subject of race?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:59 PM   #32 
                 - not off hand  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:05 PM   #37 
                 - OK then.  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 05:05 PM   #38 
                    - concede nothing  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:13 PM   #41 
                       - So is your answer yes or no?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 05:18 PM   #45 
                          - your point?  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:26 PM   #51 
                             - What's my point about you contradicting yourself?  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 05:29 PM   #54 
                                - ok  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:37 PM   #57 
                 - Ronald Reagan's speech on states' rights in Philadelphia, Mississippi?  EffieBlack   Mar-19-08 05:08 PM   #39 
                    - effie effie  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:15 PM   #42 
  - His own political crisis by the way.  mac2   Mar-19-08 04:34 PM   #11 
  - A phony political crisis.  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:36 PM   #13 
     - What a preacher who doesn't belong in a campaign  mac2   Mar-19-08 04:37 PM   #15 
  - mlk  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:37 PM   #14 
     - You are splitting hairs here.  mac2   Mar-19-08 04:38 PM   #16 
     - what?  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:44 PM   #19 
     - So was Obama's.  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:39 PM   #17 
        - to whom?  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:45 PM   #21 
           - To Obama, to Wright, to Obama's supporters...  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-08 04:57 PM   #28 
              - talking injustice  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:01 PM   #34 
  - Question to you  gcomeau   Mar-19-08 04:32 PM   #9 
  - I don't agree so let's leave it at that.  mac2   Mar-19-08 04:35 PM   #12 
  - not relevant  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:42 PM   #18 
  - Because people like you (and other HRC supporters) would have accused him of race baiting ...  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 04:45 PM   #20 
  - race baiting  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:48 PM   #23 
     - he is telling the truth...he held it in until he had no choice, then he stated as eloquently as I  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 04:54 PM   #25 
     - the truth  wrando   Mar-19-08 04:58 PM   #29 
        - Which part do you think is fiction?  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 05:02 PM   #36 
        - poor gramma  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:08 PM   #40 
           - it is described pretty lucidly in his book, but then there is no proving, as you say.  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 06:00 PM   #64 
              - exactly  wrando   Mar-19-08 06:02 PM   #66 
        - John Conyers today...about the truth...  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 06:05 PM   #67 
           - conyers is a nice guy  wrando   Mar-19-08 06:17 PM   #70 
     - and btw, your post proves my point.  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 04:55 PM   #26 
        - what point  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:16 PM   #43 
           - That peeps would accuse him of race baiting, and you promptly accused him.  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 06:01 PM   #65 
              - who was the race baiter?  wrando   Mar-19-08 06:07 PM   #68 
                 - BO did not say that, so it is irrelevant, except to say that I would say it to my kids....  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 06:15 PM   #69 
                    - what are we talking about?  wrando   Mar-19-08 06:21 PM   #71 
                       - No, we were talking about why he didn;t give it earlier, your OP...  Sulawesi   Mar-19-08 08:18 PM   #72 
  - Well done, Wrando.  elixir   Mar-19-08 04:47 PM   #22 
  - Change.  Life Long Dem   Mar-19-08 04:58 PM   #30 
  - talk change  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:18 PM   #44 
  - And in his day, MLK was vilified after his speeches too  thevoiceofreason   Mar-19-08 05:00 PM   #33 
  - oh brother  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:19 PM   #47 
  - Obama  Life Long Dem   Mar-19-08 05:01 PM   #35 
  - i'm for that  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:21 PM   #48 
  - The great MLK  metalluk   Mar-19-08 05:28 PM   #52 
  - love it  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:39 PM   #59 
  - Because now is the time when everyone would listen.  sampsonblk   Mar-19-08 05:56 PM   #61 
     - salesman's dream  wrando   Mar-19-08 05:59 PM   #63 
 

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