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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-29-04 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #167
168. I'll 'butt in' whenever I damn well please, thank you very much.

Like whenever someone makes a false assertion, unsupported by citation to evidence, I will feel free to point out their error.

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  -Kerry is ON FIRE: MSNBC: "Bush Intentionally Exagerrated" liberalpragmatist  Apr-27-04 06:01 PM   #0 
  - You go, Senator Kerry!!!  Lindacooks   Apr-27-04 06:02 PM   #1 
  - outstanding!!! thanks for the link  frank frankly   Apr-27-04 06:03 PM   #2 
  - Hey  Catch22Dem   Apr-27-04 06:03 PM   #3 
  - I'm behind JK. He needs to beat the drums against * more often!  PROGRESSIVE1   Apr-27-04 06:03 PM   #4 
  - Wow, I wish that that could be replayed over and over for the sheeple to  Melodybe   Apr-27-04 06:04 PM   #5 
  - Because it is the first sign of life I have seen  Classical_Liberal   Apr-27-04 06:04 PM   #6 
  - Well you haven't been paying attention  trumad   Apr-28-04 03:51 PM   #39 
     - Bullshit  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 04:24 PM   #42 
        - There you go again  trumad   Apr-29-04 05:56 AM   #91 
  - Dick Cheney will regret that he pissed Kerry off  Democat   Apr-27-04 06:05 PM   #7 
  - Why doesn't he just come right out  Demobrat   Apr-27-04 06:07 PM   #8 
  - This would be even better  Classical_Liberal   Apr-27-04 06:09 PM   #10 
  - Because it won't win votes at this point.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-27-04 06:10 PM   #11 
  - Making undecides think Bush is a liar is a good thing  Classical_Liberal   Apr-27-04 06:14 PM   #13 
  - Perhaps you believe you have better political instincts than Kerry.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-27-04 06:22 PM   #19 
     - When he goes down in the polls will listen?  Classical_Liberal   Apr-27-04 06:36 PM   #24 
        - You mean like last summer?  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 12:13 PM   #25 
           - I have no respect for yours either.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 04:22 PM   #40 
              - The difference is  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 05:24 PM   # 
                 - Right, some have a record of being right, and winning  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:26 PM   #58 
                 - right and winning are not the same  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 06:18 PM   #79 
                    - Umm, that's why I listed both of them  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:24 PM   #83 
                    - Another false comment, apparently based on your imagination.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 06:42 PM   #90 
                 - I made no prediction on matter.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 06:16 PM   #77 
                    - Nope, not a prediction  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:18 PM   #78 
  - And beating around the bush will?  Demobrat   Apr-27-04 06:17 PM   #16 
  - Because if bush plants WMD  Carni   Apr-27-04 06:35 PM   #23 
     - Bingo  ACK   Apr-28-04 12:15 PM   #26 
     - That is real paranoia at this point. Bush doesn't control  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 04:25 PM   #43 
        - Why should we place any value on your uninformed opinion?  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 05:41 PM   #61 
           - Will Marshall is PNAC.  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 06:15 PM   #76 
              - your uninformed opinions aren't going to make us listen to  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:19 PM   #80 
              - Who gives a fuck?  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 06:38 PM   #88 
  - I suggested that he "Start Prosecuting, Stop Pontificating" in the  Gloria   Apr-27-04 06:08 PM   #9 
  - NOW we're talking!!!!  arcane1   Apr-27-04 06:12 PM   #12 
  - Hot diggity damn!!!  rockymountaindem   Apr-27-04 06:15 PM   #14 
  - I wish he would call them  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-27-04 06:15 PM   #15 
  - Gee,, I just saw a Bush ad! The one with "Kerry voted against  Gloria   Apr-27-04 06:18 PM   #17 
  - How about it's the first time he ever said anything that really  lastknowngood   Apr-27-04 06:22 PM   #18 
  - You must have been on some other planet for the last year  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-27-04 06:24 PM   #20 
  - Like calling for regime change at home  ACK   Apr-28-04 12:18 PM   #27 
  - That was back during the primaries when he was listening to the Kennedy  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 04:31 PM   #45 
  - Don't get your hopes up by listening the Kerry bots  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 04:32 PM   #46 
  - I am sorry...  Carni   Apr-27-04 06:32 PM   #21 
  - This is encouraging.  Tinoire   Apr-27-04 06:35 PM   #22 
  - Very encouraging. I hope like hell he gets better and better.  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 01:00 PM   #28 
     - I disagree:  mdguss   Apr-28-04 01:12 PM   #29 
        - Above the frey my arse. He should tell the truth.  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 01:46 PM   #30 
           - Attacking people just brings them:  mdguss   Apr-28-04 02:02 PM   #31 
              - Have you seen Bush's outright lies of ads????  NewYorkerfromMass   Apr-28-04 02:12 PM   #32 
              - We won't rise above it if it looks like a food fight:  mdguss   Apr-28-04 02:18 PM   #33 
                 - I think your wrong. All Kerry has to do is tell the truth. Bush HAS to  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 03:47 PM   #38 
                    - Like Dean did?  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:42 PM   #62 
                       - So he shouldn't tell the truth? He shouldn't go after Bush hard?  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:05 PM   #71 
                       - You're avoiding the point with a straw man  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:01 AM   #94 
                          - Sangh0, your twisting of reality is unbelievable. I don't know why I  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 10:22 AM   #100 
                             - I did not say those things you asked about. That is reality  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:32 AM   #101 
                                - Here is how Kerry avoids the same fate.... ready?  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 10:52 AM   #104 
                                   - Too late  sangh0   Apr-29-04 11:14 AM   #107 
                                      - Taking a position against the FCC regs is not bold...  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:45 AM   #116 
                                         - Why not?  sangh0   Apr-29-04 12:00 PM   #119 
                                            - What is my assertion Sangh0. What is my argument exactly?  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 12:09 PM   #124 
                                               - "Taking a position against the FCC regs is not bold" is your assertion  sangh0   Apr-29-04 01:21 PM   #132 
                                               - You are quite humerous.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:35 PM   #139 
                                               - Here's why  sangh0   Apr-29-04 03:35 PM   #154 
                                               - LOL  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 05:48 PM   #162 
                       - What do YOU think he should do?  Forkboy   Apr-29-04 08:34 PM   #175 
              - *Attacking?* If the truth hurts, so be it.  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 02:21 PM   #34 
                 - The idea is to win:  mdguss   Apr-28-04 02:26 PM   #35 
                    - And in order to win Kerry has to *stand up* so he can motivate people  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 03:44 PM   #37 
                       - Isn't that how Dean won?  sangh0   Apr-28-04 04:23 PM   #41 
                          - No Dean was deemed *unelectable and unfit for office* much like their  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 04:42 PM   #47 
                          - It doesn't sound like your advice is very sound  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:10 PM   #49 
                             - Oh so your saying those "good dems' in dlc would betray Kerry  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 05:19 PM   #53 
                             - Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:22 PM   #54 
                                - What about the situation of a bunch republicans running our  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 05:24 PM   #56 
                                   - Why don't you tell me?  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:26 PM   #59 
                                   - What about the fact that that situation is a figment of your imagination?  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 05:47 PM   #65 
                                      - Is Will Marshall a figmant of my imagination  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 06:20 PM   #82 
                                         - What you said is a figment of your imagination.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-28-04 06:40 PM   #89 
                             - I'm suggesting that Kerry do more of what he did on Hardball. If you are  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 05:52 PM   #66 
                                - Dean's statement about breaking up the media is why he lost?  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:07 PM   #73 
                                   - What the article states is that the MEDIA altered the race Sangh0  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:32 PM   #86 
                                      - The article says more than that  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:06 AM   #95 
                                         - No Sangh0. He would benefit from the same attention Dean got early on.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 10:13 AM   #98 
                                            - Kerry can't control what kind of attention the media gives him  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:36 AM   #102 
                                               - Your whole argument is based on Kerry meeting Dean's demise if he  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:05 AM   #105 
                                                  - OK  sangh0   Apr-29-04 11:21 AM   #109 
                                                  - Well then prove them wrong?  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:26 AM   #112 
                                                  - I disagree, he's only pointing out that you are advocating  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 11:24 AM   #110 
                                                  - And he was rejected by the voters because the media deemed him  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:49 AM   #117 
                                                  - So all those Dean supporters listened to the media?  sangh0   Apr-29-04 12:03 PM   #121 
                                                  - If people didn't listen to the media, there would be no point in running  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 12:12 PM   #125 
                                                  - SO why didn't they vote for DK? Why did they vote for Kerry?  sangh0   Apr-29-04 01:24 PM   #133 
                                                  - I have explained this. DK was marginalized from the beginning.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:45 PM   #142 
                                                  - That is only your opinion, and I think it's wrong.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 01:26 PM   #135 
                                                  - What part of the primaries do you consider relevant to this discussion??  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:37 PM   #140 
                                                  - The entire process.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 01:43 PM   #141 
                                                  - And I agree. It's all relevant  sangh0   Apr-29-04 03:37 PM   #155 
                                                  - I agree the primaries are relevant too.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 07:15 PM   #172 
                          - If Kerry is elected at all he owes it all to Dean  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 04:44 PM   #48 
                          - LOL!  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:11 PM   #50 
                             - They didn't start going down till Dean attacked him  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 05:17 PM   #52 
                                - The #'s went down faster AFTER Dean suspended his campaign  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:23 PM   #55 
                                   - He got the ball rolling  Classical_Liberal   Apr-28-04 05:24 PM   #57 
                                      - Bush*'s numbers went down faster AFTER Dean dropped out  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:27 PM   #60 
                                      - Bullshit. Bush is improving in the polls with Dean out of the race.  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 05:59 PM   #67 
                                         - Bush*'s numbers went down faster AFTER Dean dropped out  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:04 PM   #70 
                                            - I did respond. I said your full of crap.  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:06 PM   #72 
                                               - I apologize. I mistook your post for one of CL's  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:10 PM   #74 
                                               - I'd say the same about your case.  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:20 PM   #81 
                                               - You can say whatever you like  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:25 PM   #84 
                                               - I've identified it several times within this thread. Right back atcha  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:33 PM   #87 
                                               - NO, all you've done is to argue against including the context  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:08 AM   #96 
                                               - No Sangh0. You mentioned Dean, not me... However since you did  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:20 AM   #108 
                                               - When did I say I didn't mention Dean  sangh0   Apr-29-04 11:26 AM   #111 
                                               - OMG  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:35 AM   #115 
                                               - And how does your suggestion differ from Dean's strategy?  sangh0   Apr-29-04 12:05 PM   #122 
                                               - Dean's strategy did not consist of a singular approach.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 12:15 PM   #126 
                                               - You didn't suggest a singular approach  sangh0   Apr-29-04 01:26 PM   #134 
                                               - Read my post 38 Sangh0 for my actual suggestion. You know what I said  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:55 PM   #144 
                                               - You've said more than that mzmolly  sangh0   Apr-29-04 04:04 PM   #156 
                                               - Oh my what an enjoyable evening.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 07:42 PM   #173 
                                      - The #'s went down faster AFTER Dean suspended his campaign  sangh0   Apr-28-04 05:44 PM   #63 
                                         - Ah... NO they did not. They went down for a time after Clark testified  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:02 PM   #68 
                                            - You're really out of it with those "facts"  sangh0   Apr-28-04 06:13 PM   #75 
                                               - Bush is BEATING Kerry soundly in SEVERAL national polls...  mzmolly   Apr-28-04 06:27 PM   #85 
                                                  - More untruths - Bush* and Kerry are in a statistical tie  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:10 AM   #97 
                                                  - They are in a statistical tie NOW, but when Dean was in several Dems  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 10:14 AM   #99 
                                                  - When Dean was in, Kerry beat Dean in one on one matches against Bush*  sangh0   Apr-29-04 10:39 AM   #103 
                                                  - The media giving Kerry a free ride is "context" Sangh0.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:13 AM   #106 
                                                  - What a laughable statement, totally inconsistent with reality.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 11:27 AM   #113 
                                                  - For someone who claims to be educated....  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:59 AM   #118 
                                                  - Another false, untrue assertion.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 01:09 PM   #129 
                                                  - Search DU. Dean and Gep were first choice among most voters  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:52 PM   #143 
                                                  - Your assertion is false.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 02:50 PM   #152 
                                                  - No it is true.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 03:18 PM   #153 
                                                  - Can you please name the exit polls that support your assertion?  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 04:08 PM   #157 
                                                  - I did. Zogby for one. Now name yours.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 05:17 PM   #158 
                                                  - No, I mean actually provide some citation that backs up your assertion.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 05:31 PM   #159 
                                                  - I'm waiting for yours and Sangh0's. You started with the assertions  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 05:33 PM   #160 
                                                  - That's untrue. I've made no assertion.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 05:43 PM   #161 
                                                  - *YOU butted into a conversation that you were not a part of*  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 06:01 PM   #163 
                                                  - I'll 'butt in' whenever I damn well please, thank you very much.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 06:07 PM   #164 
                                                  - I am still waiting for proof of the assertions that Kerry was beating  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 06:15 PM   #165 
                                                  - I never made that assertion.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 06:26 PM   #166 
                                                  - Right, but YOU butted into another conversation.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 06:35 PM   #167 
                                                  - I'll 'butt in' whenever I damn well please, thank you very much.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 06:45 PM   #168 
                                                  - Aw, I'm touched ...  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 06:53 PM   #169 
                                                  - You can't back up your statement because it's wrong.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 06:55 PM   #170 
                                                  - LOL. I can't back it up because Zogby and others have moved on  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 07:12 PM   #171 
                                                  - I'm glad you finally admitted that you are unable to support your claim.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 07:52 PM   #174 
                                                  - I can support it, but I won't take much time to do so as it is not  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 11:16 PM   #176 
                                                  - So then make your argument  sangh0   Apr-29-04 11:30 AM   #114 
                                                  - No it wasn't every single poll Sangh0. Dean was ahead in some  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 12:03 PM   #120 
                                                  - You are confused  sangh0   Apr-29-04 12:08 PM   #123 
                                                  - dup  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 12:18 PM   #127 
                                                  - Nope your confused. Kerry did not do better in "every single poll"  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 12:18 PM   #128 
                                                  - Please provide evidence to back your false assertion.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 01:15 PM   #130 
                                                  - I was referring to one type of specific poll  sangh0   Apr-29-04 01:28 PM   #136 
                                                  - Close to accurate?  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:29 PM   #137 
                                                  - Yes. To make it simple for you, it would be more accurate to say  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 01:32 PM   #138 
                                                  - Again they were all in a statistical dead heat considering the MOE  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 01:56 PM   #145 
                                                  - That is a false and untrue statement.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 01:57 PM   #146 
                                                  - "No it is a true and valid statement."  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 02:00 PM   #147 
                                                  - I'd like to see you back it up with some citations then.  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 02:12 PM   #148 
                                                  - You first.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 02:15 PM   #149 
                                                  - So I'm obligated to prove your assertions wrong instead of you being  Feanorcurufinwe   Apr-29-04 02:40 PM   #150 
                                                  - Actually I wasn't the first one to mention the *polls* in this discussion.  mzmolly   Apr-29-04 02:45 PM   #151 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-28-04 05:17 PM   #51 
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  - I have noticed that fewer seem to be bashing,  saywhat   Apr-28-04 04:28 PM   #44 
  - I am firmly in the Pro Kerry camp. I respect him deeply.  familydoctor   Apr-28-04 05:44 PM   #64 
  - Kerry Rules!  JHBowden   Apr-28-04 06:03 PM   #69 
  - Excellent. This is great.  BullGooseLoony   Apr-29-04 06:15 AM   #92 
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