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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 09:45 AM
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70. Sure He Is. Clear As Day.
He says neither of them can win. He uses the rules to say such.

Yet by this point, even 3rd graders must know that pledged delegates alone do not decide the nomination, and that inside the rules there's a thing called superdelegates, of which can easily push one of the two over the 2025 threshould. So since that's all inside the rules, saying under the rules neither nominee can win is just mind numbingly dumb.
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  -Well, we screwed this election up royally, didn't we? Rex_Goodheart  Mar-15-08 08:45 AM   #0 
  - Agreed - but it was not by design  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 08:46 AM   #1 
  - assuming the media hype itself wasn't by design.  zonmoy   Mar-15-08 08:53 AM   #14 
  - I heard alot of that but respectfully don't agree  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 08:56 AM   #20 
  - it really wasn't hard to see this coming....  BlackVelvet04   Mar-15-08 09:44 AM   #69 
     - Well, it wouldn't have been this way if your candidate saw the handwriting on the wall  Nedsdag   Mar-15-08 09:55 AM   #79 
     - Wow.  susankh4   Mar-15-08 10:30 AM   #100 
     - That is what I'm seeing as well  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 10:38 AM   #103 
     - You have no right to demand anyone leave the race......  BlackVelvet04   Mar-15-08 01:02 PM   #121 
        - Hilary will only DAMAGE the Dem party chances of success  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 01:32 PM   #123 
     - Worse then that even and Hilary fired the first shot BTW  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 10:47 AM   #110 
        - No, the MSM fired the first shot.....  BlackVelvet04   Mar-15-08 01:01 PM   #120 
  - I think you need a reality check. We are still better off with Obama than we are with Hillary.  GarbagemanLB   Mar-15-08 08:47 AM   #2 
  - lol  durrrty libby   Mar-15-08 08:49 AM   #6 
  - how do you figure, there are no polls with Obama properly vetted. Period.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-15-08 08:49 AM   #7 
  - Yeah, and there isn't a gigantic issue looming with Hillary's tax returns. There are countless thing  GarbagemanLB   Mar-15-08 08:55 AM   #16 
  - Hillary's tax returns is a non-issue  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:01 AM   #27 
     - Wow...talk about wishful thinking.  GarbagemanLB   Mar-15-08 09:03 AM   #29 
     - If her tax returns were such a non-issue, she'd have released them by now.  tasteblind   Mar-15-08 09:07 AM   #38 
     - This guilt by association thing is getting old too, Ferraro said something  madmom   Mar-15-08 11:10 AM   #114 
     - Ha Ha..yeah that's why she hasn't released them...they're no big deal  NDambi   Mar-15-08 09:12 AM   #47 
  - When exactly will Obama be vetted enough?  tasteblind   Mar-15-08 09:06 AM   #34 
  - Both are showing themselves to be seriously flawed candidates.  Inspired   Mar-15-08 09:02 AM   #28 
     - Hammer ... nail ... BINGO!  dbaker41   Mar-15-08 09:17 AM   #53 
     - Very true, Inspired. I was a Kucinich, then an Edwards, supporter, and  Nay   Mar-15-08 09:28 AM   #62 
     - It's not the most important election. 2004 was.  usrbs   Mar-15-08 01:28 PM   #122 
        - Upon reflection, I have to agree with you. 2004 was the most important,  Nay   Mar-15-08 03:46 PM   #124 
           - So depressing but I agree with every word  usrbs   Mar-15-08 04:21 PM   #125 
     - Personally, I like Richardson, but hey, I didnt get my wish either.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-15-08 09:55 AM   #80 
     - Could you ever imagine Richardson having such bizarre baggage?  Inspired   Mar-15-08 10:55 AM   #113 
     - SO TRUE... can we draft Edwards?  madmom   Mar-15-08 11:11 AM   #115 
        - In my sweetest dreams! n/t  Inspired   Mar-15-08 11:14 AM   #117 
  - The infighting is what is screwing up this election.  zanne   Mar-15-08 08:48 AM   #3 
  - they chose the one candidate that could win... we are gonna choose the one that couldnt.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-15-08 08:48 AM   #4 
  - Do you really think things would be different if Edwards took Obama's place?  Dawgs   Mar-15-08 08:48 AM   #5 
  - Yes, I most emphatically do  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 08:51 AM   #12 
     - Then you really are naive.  Dawgs   Mar-15-08 09:00 AM   #26 
        - No, I think you might be naive to how much this nonsense is going to matter.  Inspired   Mar-15-08 09:05 AM   #32 
        - Yep. Hey, isn't Edwards a member of the DLC? Thought I saw that somewhere  NDambi   Mar-15-08 09:13 AM   #48 
        - No, it's you who's naive  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:35 AM   #63 
        - For a politician, Edwards is about as clean as anyone has EVER been.  loudsue   Mar-15-08 10:39 AM   #104 
           - Loudsue, you nailed it. For those who refuse to drink the Koolaid, this has been painful to watch.  chimpymustgo   Mar-15-08 11:23 AM   #119 
  - Who are "we?"  lizzy   Mar-15-08 08:49 AM   #8 
  - The only reason there will be no President Edwards is because of  Little Star   Mar-15-08 08:50 AM   #9 
  - The Clintons May Win the Battle but, They Will Lose the War  From The Left   Mar-15-08 08:50 AM   #10 
  - If Obama gets the nomination, president McCain is very likely.  lizzy   Mar-15-08 08:51 AM   #13 
  - Not According to the Polls. Nice Try Though  From The Left   Mar-15-08 08:56 AM   #17 
     - Polls?  lizzy   Mar-15-08 08:57 AM   #21 
     - Keep watching those polls  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 08:57 AM   #22 
  - Hilbots won't stop until McCain is elected  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 08:53 AM   #15 
     - Maybe Hillary Can Run as McCain's Veep? They Are BFFs  From The Left   Mar-15-08 08:56 AM   #19 
        - A little too much Honesty there  FreakinDJ   Mar-15-08 08:57 AM   #23 
  - Tonto: "What you mean 'we', paleface?" to quote an old joke. NT  NYCGirl   Mar-15-08 08:51 AM   #11 
  - Edwards Lost. Get Over It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 08:56 AM   #18 
  - Oh that is funny as hell!  Stuckinthebush   Mar-15-08 09:03 AM   #30 
  - Well, That IS The Side Of My Bed Without The Wall, So It Happens Often.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:09 AM   #41 
     - Well, that was actually funny  Stuckinthebush   Mar-15-08 09:14 AM   #50 
  - Amen! I have never seen a bunch of bigger cry-babies than some of the Edwards supporters  JVS   Mar-15-08 09:05 AM   #33 
  - Edwards seems to have gained a following of previously Kucinich supporters  dansolo   Mar-15-08 09:13 AM   #49 
  - On examination - he passes the smell test  JoFerret   Mar-15-08 11:14 AM   #118 
  - Then you didn't read enough about him  zalinda   Mar-15-08 09:41 AM   #66 
     - I see you've been typing but all I hear is Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!  JVS   Mar-15-08 09:48 AM   #72 
        - Which is typical of an Obama supporter  zalinda   Mar-15-08 10:11 AM   #87 
        - Well I think that reflects more on YOU than anyone else.  musicblind   Mar-15-08 10:15 AM   #89 
  - And according to the agreed upon rules, so have Clinton and Obama.  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 09:23 AM   #56 
     - Sorry, I Like The REAL Rules, Not The Personally Made Up Ones You're Throwing Out.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:26 AM   #58 
        - What is it about "marority" and "plurality" don't you understand?  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 09:27 AM   #59 
           - What Is It About Real Rules, VS Delusional Made Up Ones You Present, That YOU Don't Understand?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:28 AM   #61 
              - He isn't making up any rules  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:39 AM   #65 
              - Sure He Is. Clear As Day.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:45 AM   #70 
                 - And it is a disingenuous attempt to put them in the same category of Edwards.  JVS   Mar-15-08 09:50 AM   #74 
                 - It Is Really Silly.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:52 AM   #77 
                 - Neither Clinton nor Obama can win with elected delegates alone; because the race is too close  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 09:52 AM   #76 
                 - Let Me Spoon Feed You One Last Time Before I Deem You As Hopeless:  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:57 AM   #83 
                    - The Obama talking point has been that his pluralities give him  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 10:15 AM   #90 
                       - Look. Edwards Lost. Get Over It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 10:16 AM   #91 
                          - And it's looking more and more likely that Obama will as well.  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 10:18 AM   #94 
                             - By The Way, You Know I'm Overall A Hillary Supporter, Right?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 10:20 AM   #95 
                                - I'm soooooooooo embarrassed. Responding to the wrong biggest looser's  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 10:51 AM   #112 
                 - Are you speaking for your third grade class?  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 09:53 AM   #78 
                    - That Wouldn't Reflect Too Well On You,  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:59 AM   #85 
                       - In your dreams.  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 10:08 AM   #86 
                       - No, I hate to jump in here... but you obviously are not reading the points ben here is saying or  musicblind   Mar-15-08 10:23 AM   #97 
                          - Wrong. And You Should've Hated Jumping In, Since Taking The Losing Side Of An Argument Is Dumb.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 10:35 AM   #102 
                             - ur just...  musicblind   Mar-15-08 10:40 AM   #105 
                                - You Don't Get It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 10:44 AM   #108 
              - To win, under the rules, one must get 2025 delegates. Neither Clinton nor  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 09:44 AM   #68 
                 - Again, I Like The REAL Rules, Not Your Warped Made Up Ones.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-15-08 09:47 AM   #71 
                    - Yes, and we can hope they will do their duty and reject flawed  Benhurst   Mar-15-08 09:58 AM   #84 
  - I hear ya.  Swamp Rat   Mar-15-08 08:59 AM   #24 
  - I've gone to bed the past two nights sick to my stomach ...  JoFerret   Mar-15-08 08:59 AM   #25 
  - My opinion is  Demo5   Mar-15-08 09:11 AM   #46 
     - Well....it's a theory  JoFerret   Mar-15-08 09:17 AM   #54 
  - Edwards couldn't even beat Hillary or Obama.  tasteblind   Mar-15-08 09:04 AM   #31 
  - Yes, I still remember this debate. It was awful.  lizzy   Mar-15-08 09:06 AM   #35 
  - Edwards was new  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:10 AM   #43 
  - Revisionist nonsense. Are you that easy to spin?  PaulHo   Mar-15-08 09:43 AM   #67 
  - Well he did beat Hillary in Iowa, but her campaign was very good at claiming a tie  JVS   Mar-15-08 09:07 AM   #37 
  - Come to think of it, she's still doing pretty well at it. n/t  tasteblind   Mar-15-08 09:08 AM   #40 
  - Good lord  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:08 AM   #39 
     - Edwards ran to the left of Hillary and Obama.  tasteblind   Mar-15-08 09:10 AM   #45 
  - I don't what's wrong with your heart as you say, but....  DemVet   Mar-15-08 09:07 AM   #36 
  - Thank you  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:38 AM   #64 
  - Completely Agree With You...  Steely_Dan   Mar-15-08 09:09 AM   #42 
  - News Flash, you probably weren't going to get your insurance for your heart anyway..not unless the  NDambi   Mar-15-08 09:10 AM   #44 
  - I don't buy that John Edwards is somehow supremely electable.  Unsane   Mar-15-08 09:14 AM   #51 
  - John Edwards didn't attend a "God damn America" church  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:23 AM   #57 
  - why get physically attached to it? the dupes are getting what they need...  pretzel4gore   Mar-15-08 09:15 AM   #52 
  - Cheer up.  Birthmark   Mar-15-08 09:21 AM   #55 
  - Well, if Hillary creams Obama in PA and NJ  Rex_Goodheart   Mar-15-08 09:28 AM   #60 
  - K and R. Identity politics is a seductive phenomenon.  PaulHo   Mar-15-08 09:49 AM   #73 
  - This Primary season  VeraAgnes   Mar-15-08 09:51 AM   #75 
  - Barack will do fine he half white so sane people will see the smear.  barack the house   Mar-15-08 09:56 AM   #81 
  - WTF?  gaspee   Mar-15-08 10:17 AM   #92 
  - Barack will do fine he half white so sane people will see the smear.  barack the house   Mar-15-08 09:56 AM   #82 
  - Most probably correct, it is screwed up FUBAR.  gordianot   Mar-15-08 10:12 AM   #88 
  - Edwards was out before Ohio ever had a chance  OhioBlues   Mar-15-08 10:17 AM   #93 
  - WE ARE SCREWN!111!!!  Jamastiene   Mar-15-08 10:22 AM   #96 
  - J I have been feeling the same  OhioBlues   Mar-15-08 10:29 AM   #99 
  - John only suspended his campaign....  susankh4   Mar-15-08 10:27 AM   #98 
  - Gore & Edwards! WINNERS!!!!!  KoKo01   Mar-15-08 04:24 PM   #126 
  - It's better than the last one.  gulliver   Mar-15-08 10:34 AM   #101 
  - Yes. Yes we did. We lost a lot of good democratic voters this cycle.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-15-08 10:41 AM   #106 
  - Screwed?  Beregond2   Mar-15-08 10:41 AM   #107 
  - The Hairshirt wing of the party and posters here rejected him for house size and haircut  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Mar-15-08 10:46 AM   #109 
  - The long & negative primary is what's murdering us this election  ShadowLiberal   Mar-15-08 10:49 AM   #111 
  - The (tragic) audacity of (false) hope  JoFerret   Mar-15-08 11:12 AM   #116 
  - We had a broad field of experienced candidates.  Tennessee Gal   Mar-15-08 04:26 PM   #127 
 

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