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Sat Mar-15-08 06:53 AM
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| 34. That is true. That is based on a Pew poll, not gut feelings or random anecdotes |
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Crossover voting has existed forever. Clinton got 13% of the rethug vote in 96'. Obama is getting what Gore got and about what Kerry did. Was there any hype about "Kerry Republicans"? Bush got 11% of the Dem vote both times and Dole 10%.
That is a separate issue. If anyone can swiftboat McCain as a racist it is Obama. That is one thing he has experience doing...The idea that Obama is immune on this makes no sense. All they will have to do is run an ad splicing Obama's public rhetoric about "unity" and "getting beyond race" with footage of his pastor/mentor. Obama will be done after that. He will be swiftboated as racist against three out of voters. The numbers don't add up. Even if 10% of them buy it Obama is done.
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| -PA is a closed Dem primary. Why would an Obama ad say "register as a Democrat"? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 05:16 AM |
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It's true, you can change your registration, vote in the closed |
napi21 |
Mar-15-08 05:24 AM |
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Rush Limbaugh is urging PA Republicans to register as Democrats |
Skwmom |
Mar-15-08 05:38 AM |
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That is an Obama machine lie. Obama won the rethug vote in both Ohio and Texas |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 05:50 AM |
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Name removed |
Mar-15-08 06:49 AM |
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I know he is encouraging stilly folks to vote for HRC--where is documentation that people actually |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 07:54 AM |
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An analysis supporting this have been posted more than once. |
Skwmom |
Mar-15-08 08:19 AM |
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Pew Research Poll..Exit Polls in Mississippi.... 'Limbaugh Effect' Softens Blow For Hillary |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Mar-15-08 02:20 PM |
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Where is the "documentation" that they are voting for Obama to throw the race? |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-15-08 08:20 AM |
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I am not the OP |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 08:23 AM |
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They support his advertisers pretty faithfully |
Paint It Black |
Mar-15-08 08:57 AM |
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wired news: Did Limbaugh's Crossover Voters Break Ohio Law? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Mar-15-08 02:16 PM |
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Exactly. And you will hear nothing but crickets now... |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-15-08 08:18 AM |
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"Rush the Vote" is definitely a repub scheme to get Hillary elected. NO doubt about that. |
jmg257 |
Mar-15-08 10:18 AM |
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Voters you(#5) call "rethugs" are diverse, & include independents who helped win Congress in 2006... |
charles t |
Mar-15-08 10:59 AM |
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70% of those who have a strongly favorable opinion of McCain picked Clinton. |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Mar-15-08 02:21 PM |
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Is your ass sore by now? |
Capn Sunshine |
Mar-15-08 02:28 PM |
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"Which goes to what you just said." -- You call it a lie and then agree? |
krkaufman |
Mar-15-08 03:06 PM |
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Also... most recent Rethug surge for Hillary ... |
krkaufman |
Mar-15-08 03:01 PM |
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Did you notice the state law posed a deadline for such registration? |
ProSense |
Mar-15-08 05:41 AM |
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Did you read what you posted? |
MaineDem |
Mar-15-08 05:44 AM |
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He can't win with Dem votes and knows it. You want rethugs to choose our nominee? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 05:50 AM |
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Geeeeeeeez, |
Hepburn |
Mar-15-08 05:53 AM |
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Only Barack Obama would need to include "register as a Democrat" in ads and flyers |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 05:57 AM |
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It's law here in Maine that we include this information |
MaineDem |
Mar-15-08 06:04 AM |
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If it is the law in PA and someone can prove it then I will say lock this thread |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:06 AM |
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Do you suppose there is even the remotest possibility |
POAS |
Mar-15-08 08:30 AM |
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The closed primary here in PA requires this: |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-15-08 08:50 AM |
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Hello.... |
Hepburn |
Mar-15-08 06:09 AM |
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You are amusing. Your own words wind up thrown back atyou |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:14 AM |
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Because she and her campaign are too stupid to do so... |
Hepburn |
Mar-15-08 06:24 AM |
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I know. Much of Obama's votes comes not on merit but because of irrational Hillary hate |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:34 AM |
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that's funny. |
Maine-ah |
Mar-15-08 08:31 AM |
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one question |
reflection |
Mar-15-08 10:19 AM |
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yep, that's my girl BB Maine-ah |
Maine-ah |
Mar-15-08 10:25 AM |
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Well she's beautiful |
reflection |
Mar-15-08 10:49 AM |
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A lot of people don't like her for a lot of different reasons |
dmesg |
Mar-15-08 09:09 AM |
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OR |
POAS |
Mar-15-08 08:32 AM |
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Only Obama is attracting independent and crossover voters |
dmesg |
Mar-15-08 09:03 AM |
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Bill Clinton won the election with 43 percent of the popular vote |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Mar-15-08 02:24 PM |
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You'e absolutely right. . . . . |
charles t |
Mar-15-08 08:43 PM |
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If they register as Democrats then they instantly become Democrats. |
totodeinhere |
Mar-15-08 07:11 AM |
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I think the OP wants an ideological purity test |
dmesg |
Mar-15-08 09:04 AM |
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since I know you can't be this stupid, you must just be dishonest |
onenote |
Mar-15-08 09:01 AM |
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Um, they WILL be Dem votes when the voters are registered as |
JerseygirlCT |
Mar-15-08 09:50 AM |
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no one can win without some cross overs n/t |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Mar-15-08 02:22 PM |
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"Obama Republicans" support Obama to win IN NOVEMBER - Why lump them with the Limbaugh "rethugs"? |
charles t |
Mar-15-08 08:36 PM |
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And we can't win in November with just the people that voted for Kerry in 2004 |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-17-08 05:05 AM |
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Maybe because he wants to get more votes and win? |
GoPsUx |
Mar-15-08 06:08 AM |
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Yup, he will try to win by hook or crook |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:14 AM |
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Oh my god - Obama is helping to register people as Democrats |
ecdab |
Mar-15-08 06:31 AM |
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Yeah. Guess who they will vote for in November when they change their registration back? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:33 AM |
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Obama because McCain sucks! n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-15-08 06:35 AM |
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A Democrat winning a majority of rethug votes? are you serious? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:37 AM |
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No, you're saying that. Obama will get the majority of votes. n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-15-08 06:40 AM |
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How did Ronald Raygun get in office "by a landslide"? |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-15-08 08:58 AM |
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If they change their registration back, getting them to take that first |
ecdab |
Mar-15-08 06:48 AM |
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That is true for both camps |
GoPsUx |
Mar-15-08 06:37 AM |
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. |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:41 AM |
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Ya your right we need less democrats. |
dcindian |
Mar-15-08 06:28 AM |
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Right, we should only appeal to the 30ish% of America that registers Democratic. |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 06:32 AM |
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That isn't what he is doing. Guess who these rethugs will vote for in the general? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:36 AM |
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But Republicans don't even like McCain that much. |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 06:38 AM |
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No. Obama gets basically what Gore and Kerry got from rethugs against McCain |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:44 AM |
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That's not true though, because I know Republicans who genuinely prefer Obama |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 06:47 AM |
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That is true. That is based on a Pew poll, not gut feelings or random anecdotes |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:53 AM |
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You are saying Obama will swiftboat someone as a racist? |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 07:03 AM |
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He already did it to the Clintons |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 07:07 AM |
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The Clintons did it to themselves. |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 07:14 AM |
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yes, it was the BO camp who racialized the campaign. |
rodeodance |
Mar-16-08 10:00 AM |
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BO and his campaign have already switboated the clintons as being racist.--that is REPREHESIBLE! |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 07:10 AM |
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Link? n/t |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 07:26 AM |
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search dU--it is well documented |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 07:35 AM |
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Oh yeah, I should back up your faulty rhetoric. |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 07:36 AM |
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ok---start withMcCamy Taylor. she has several well documented posts. I |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 07:48 AM |
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I'm not going to do your research for you, and a DU'er is not a valid source for substantiation. |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 07:50 AM |
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to bad for you then. As her research would give a valuable learning experience. |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 07:51 AM |
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A valuable learning experience might teach you the difference between too and to. |
tasteblind |
Mar-15-08 07:54 AM |
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too bad |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 07:56 AM |
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right - he should never have made the Clintons & surrogates say all of those things |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Mar-15-08 02:25 PM |
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Coming from a pentecostal family I can say |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-15-08 09:04 AM |
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Many are unenrolled. |
MaineDem |
Mar-15-08 06:44 AM |
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How do you know they are not registered independents? |
hfojvt |
Mar-15-08 02:20 PM |
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DUMBEST argument ever |
Paint It Black |
Mar-15-08 06:52 AM |
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So you hope McCain wins if Hillary is the nominee? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 06:55 AM |
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Straw man |
Paint It Black |
Mar-15-08 07:05 AM |
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You don't make any sense to me. |
Hersheygirl |
Mar-15-08 07:39 AM |
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One in an unending string of DUMB arguments. |
Skwmom |
Mar-15-08 08:21 AM |
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You must have missed all his other posts. |
Forkboy |
Mar-15-08 04:32 PM |
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Here is why.... |
Hepburn |
Mar-15-08 07:10 AM |
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That's because independents can't vote |
shraby |
Mar-15-08 08:12 AM |
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Obama is attracting a lot of young and first-time voters |
rox63 |
Mar-15-08 08:19 AM |
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This type of thing happened to Cynthia McKinney |
ikojo |
Mar-15-08 08:22 AM |
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OMG OBAMA IS REGISTERING DEMOCRATS! |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-15-08 08:23 AM |
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I see you have a reading comprehension problem. Please re-read the entire OP |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 08:33 AM |
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You mean the OP that points out Obama is registering new Democrats? |
dmesg |
Mar-15-08 09:00 AM |
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You missed the thesis of the OP. Care to discuss that? |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 09:21 AM |
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Enlighten me |
dmesg |
Mar-15-08 09:28 AM |
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I think it was that but also more of a question. |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 10:17 AM |
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Your post was dishonest bullshit. |
Warren Stupidity |
Mar-15-08 09:48 AM |
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Please direct you post to the OP |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 10:16 AM |
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Better he should urge voters to register |
POAS |
Mar-15-08 08:38 AM |
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There is a difference between Obama doing this and Limbaugh doing this.... SHADY. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-15-08 08:32 AM |
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There might be people who aren't registered at all who need to do so in the next week |
JVS |
Mar-15-08 08:51 AM |
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Um, yeah. Especially in Philly. |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-15-08 09:56 AM |
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You know what? I'm going to challenge you on this - provide hard facts, please |
Paint It Black |
Mar-15-08 08:54 AM |
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OP DEMANDS THAT NO NEW VOTERS BE ALLOWED TO REGISTER AS DEMOCRATS!! |
onenote |
Mar-15-08 09:04 AM |
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Exactly. |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-15-08 09:15 AM |
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we don't WANT rethugs voting for Democrats |
Paint It Black |
Mar-15-08 10:02 AM |
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Yeah because registering new democrats is an evil, evil thing to do. |
izzybeans |
Mar-15-08 09:07 AM |
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This whole primary thing has been a mass of confusion. Open primaries, |
pdxmom |
Mar-15-08 09:08 AM |
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Independents in PA are not allowed to vote in the primary. |
blue neen |
Mar-15-08 09:26 AM |
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Because he's bringing more people into the Democratic party? |
Vinca |
Mar-15-08 09:33 AM |
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Ye gads! Repeating Board of Election facts? |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-15-08 09:52 AM |
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By the way, I'm doing the Devil's work today... |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-15-08 09:58 AM |
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Darn you to heck! |
helderheid |
Mar-15-08 10:06 AM |
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Me too next month, and in Delaware, NJ, and Maryland |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 02:11 PM |
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You missed the thesis of the OP---or do not want to acknowledge it?? |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-08 10:18 AM |
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You missed the answer to that thesis in a myriad of posts. |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-15-08 10:51 AM |
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That party isn't. These are McCain voters interfering with our primary |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 02:10 PM |
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"Democrats don't need to be reminded to register as Democrats" |
Paint It Black |
Mar-16-08 07:15 AM |
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You will hear crickets... |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-16-08 10:06 AM |
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Hmm...I'm not a campaign chief or anything, but...so the people can vote for him??? |
jmg257 |
Mar-15-08 10:15 AM |
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Obama can bring in nonvoters, Hillary drives them away. Got it. |
against all enemies |
Mar-15-08 10:28 AM |
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What data supports that? The existing evidence shows Obama bleeds a large chunk of Democratic voters |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 02:12 PM |
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PA voter registration is completely out of whack with voting behavior |
democrattotheend |
Mar-15-08 10:54 AM |
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Obama-bashing "Jackson Democrats" aside, if the rules allow it, why not? |
cloudythescribbler |
Mar-15-08 11:54 AM |
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Ironic. Obamites themselves were singing a different tune after 3/4 until now |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 02:13 PM |
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As has been noted repeatedly by others on DU, different Reps have different REASONS for their votes |
cloudythescribbler |
Mar-15-08 04:26 PM |
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Ummm, so they can vote in the democratic primary. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-15-08 11:55 AM |
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Did anyone have to remind you to register as a Democrat? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 02:14 PM |
#113 |
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Maybe uneducated or youth voters don't know about the rules. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-15-08 02:16 PM |
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When you see the box for party does any real Dem have to think what box to check off? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 02:25 PM |
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He's bringing people into the democratic party who wouldn't join otherwise. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-15-08 02:26 PM |
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THAT is good. Bringing ringer "Democrats for a day" is not, although it is legal |
jackson_dem |
Mar-15-08 04:19 PM |
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He has radio ads FILLING the airways in Philly saying the same thing.... |
jlake |
Mar-15-08 02:14 PM |
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I live in Philly. What radio ads are you talking about? |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-16-08 10:16 AM |
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No, they're Obama ads "Paid for by Obama for America" |
jlake |
Mar-16-08 11:12 AM |
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Sorry but I don't believe this at all. |
BumRushDaShow |
Mar-17-08 04:47 AM |
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and you shouldn't believe it |
onenote |
Mar-17-08 11:40 AM |
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Well, okay - that's fine. But He is certainly flooding the airwaives |
jlake |
Mar-17-08 08:00 PM |
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Obama doesn't care about the party |
557188 |
Mar-15-08 02:14 PM |
#114 |
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Ever heard of Independents? |
bunnies |
Mar-15-08 02:16 PM |
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I would guess because he's trying to win by bringing new voters ... |
krkaufman |
Mar-15-08 02:54 PM |
#126 |
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Because my Dad, a Republican his whole life, will register as a Democrat and vote for Obama. |
sparosnare |
Mar-15-08 04:44 PM |
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I suggest they get cracking, then. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-16-08 08:53 AM |
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Is - - THIS WOMAN - - one of the "rethugs" (as you insist) you want to KEEP OUT of our party ? ? ? ? |
charles t |
Mar-15-08 09:08 PM |
#135 |
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OMG, someone's getting people involved in the election! |
JackRiddler |
Mar-16-08 07:46 AM |
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First time voters have to be registered. |
tekisui |
Mar-16-08 08:54 AM |
#139 |
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No, never! |
JackRiddler |
Mar-16-08 09:58 AM |
#140 |
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"You can be a Democrat for one day and then return..etc." Obama's flim flam. |
oasis |
Mar-17-08 04:52 AM |
#146 |
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Let's make it so there can be no new Democrats. You're brilliant. |
against all enemies |
Mar-17-08 04:58 AM |
#147 |
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Only old Democrats count and they have to live in big blue states |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-17-08 05:14 AM |
#150 |
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OMG CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!! |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-17-08 05:12 AM |
#149 |
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Obama wants Democrats to know that there's a deadline to register? The horror!!! |
chascarrillo |
Mar-17-08 06:13 AM |
#151 |
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for goddess sake, it simply states the requirements for voting in PA primary |
kenzee13 |
Mar-17-08 06:41 AM |
#152 |
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kick |
oasis |
Mar-17-08 11:32 AM |
#153 |
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