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Thu Mar-13-08 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 43. Iowa, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, North Dakota, Utah, |
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Nebraska, Washington, Maine, Hawaii, Wisconsin, Vermont, Democrats Abroad, Wyoming
How's that black vote looking now?
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| -Why would Hillary play the race card when it has cost her so dearly? |
Zynx |
Mar-12-08 11:12 PM |
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The Clintons will win no matter how dirty the victory. |
Rick Myers |
Mar-12-08 11:16 PM |
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You did not address a single point I made. |
Zynx |
Mar-12-08 11:16 PM |
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Why the hell wouldn't they go for the race card now? All the Deep South states |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-12-08 11:18 PM |
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In Indiana I could see the merits, but playing it in PA is not advisable. |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:38 AM |
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Good point--which is why it makes no sense that they would do it before SC |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:57 AM |
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exactly. |
annie1 |
Mar-12-08 11:19 PM |
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Put a red elephant in a small room with the rule that you can't discuss |
The_Casual_Observer |
Mar-12-08 11:20 PM |
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It is a manufactured issue alright. |
AX10 |
Mar-12-08 11:20 PM |
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Hillary may not be a racist ... |
NanceGreggs |
Mar-12-08 11:20 PM |
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thank you. |
CitizenLeft |
Mar-12-08 11:25 PM |
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That doesn't address my point which is that if this is a strategy, it has hurt far more than |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:39 AM |
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Concisely to the point and unfortunately |
truedelphi |
Mar-13-08 01:45 AM |
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Because she's trying to kill the Obama campaign to open up 2012 to her... |
scheming daemons |
Mar-12-08 11:21 PM |
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Yep. |
Diane R |
Mar-13-08 02:02 AM |
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I think they decided they had already lost the black vote, and the race |
pdxmom |
Mar-12-08 11:21 PM |
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it has not hurt her, and will not hurt her since it was aimed at... |
CitizenLeft |
Mar-12-08 11:24 PM |
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My point is that she has been accused of race baiting since New Hampshire and it hasn't helped her |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:43 AM |
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Maybe she or those who advised her underestimated the backlash |
FlyingSquirrel |
Mar-12-08 11:26 PM |
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It has not been manufactured...the Clinton's aren't stupid |
Bullet1987 |
Mar-12-08 11:27 PM |
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When you're already winning the white vote, what's the point? |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:41 AM |
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The point is Obama and how he was rising and didn't appear to |
Bullet1987 |
Mar-13-08 12:49 AM |
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But Hillary is not winning the White Vote....which is why she is behind Obama..... |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-13-08 02:06 AM |
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No one has ever accused the clinton campaign |
zidzi |
Mar-12-08 11:28 PM |
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exactly....it really isn't that hard to logic out....sigh |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Mar-13-08 12:11 AM |
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I predict PA will the be the most racist campaign we have seen in modern times. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 12:39 AM |
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You know, huge numbers of northern whites are reprelled by racism. |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:41 AM |
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I don't mean super-explicit racism. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 12:48 AM |
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Didn't you get the memo? |
woolldog |
Mar-13-08 12:40 AM |
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She figured out after WI that she had lost, Now she wants to run against McCain in '12 so Obama must |
Johnny__Motown |
Mar-13-08 12:41 AM |
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kick |
AX10 |
Mar-13-08 12:44 AM |
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The white racists are responding perfectly |
sandnsea |
Mar-13-08 12:44 AM |
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I pointed to a huge series of states this "strategy" cost her if it was a strategy. |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:47 AM |
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Nah |
sandnsea |
Mar-13-08 01:08 AM |
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She forced herself into this approach by a poor pre-campaign strategy |
theboss |
Mar-13-08 12:45 AM |
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She's been accused of race baiting since before New Hampshire. |
Zynx |
Mar-13-08 12:49 AM |
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You don't see the concerted effort to turn him into a fringe candidate like Jackson |
theboss |
Mar-13-08 12:57 AM |
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Your thread title answers the question. Playing the race card benefits only Obama... |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 12:51 AM |
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What about states with low AA populations and high rural uneducated white populations? |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 12:52 AM |
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Which states are you referring to? Hillary winning whites 60-40 isn't racial voting |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:06 AM |
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Hey easy on the labels! You said that "playing the race card only benefits Obama" |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 01:09 AM |
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Swiftboating the Clintons on race is playing the race card |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:12 AM |
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Is there any evidence that Obama ran a coordinated campaign to discredit the Clintons' on race? |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 01:15 AM |
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Campaign memos and the campaign spokesman doesn't count? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:26 AM |
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I still require links. I want evidence of a coordinated effort. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 01:28 AM |
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Here. Where are the similar ones for the alleged Clinton race baiting? |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:36 AM |
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Calling out attempts to racially marginalize Obama is swiftboating? |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 01:39 AM |
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The intent was to portray them as racist. Too bad the Clintons haven't done the same to Obama |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:42 AM |
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Geraldine Ferraro, Bob Kerrey, Ed Rendell, Bill "Jesse won in 84/88" Clinton... |
chascarrillo |
Mar-13-08 02:08 AM |
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Iowa, Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, North Dakota, Utah, |
jgraz |
Mar-13-08 01:32 AM |
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Good points. The racial flap did no damage to Obama. It hurt only Clinton |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 01:55 AM |
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Do you get whiplash from these sudden u-turns? |
jgraz |
Mar-13-08 02:01 AM |
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My Washington St. caucus had 2 blacks out of 72 people. Obama got 70% of our votes. |
Diane R |
Mar-13-08 02:06 AM |
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I bet a lot of those voters were closet blacks |
jgraz |
Mar-13-08 02:09 AM |
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Yup, the initial racial flap didn't hurt Obama at all |
jackson_dem |
Mar-13-08 02:10 AM |
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Isn't VT the whitest state in the union? |
anonymous171 |
Mar-13-08 03:20 AM |
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News flash: |
XemaSab |
Mar-13-08 05:31 AM |
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The blacks in Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, and North Dakota |
XemaSab |
Mar-13-08 05:29 AM |
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Clintons WERE NEVER FOR ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES |
DogPoundPup |
Mar-13-08 12:56 AM |
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I think Bill Clinton honestly believed he was the first "black" President. |
writes3000 |
Mar-13-08 01:24 AM |
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Bullshit! |
stolidus |
Mar-13-08 04:46 AM |
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Poor political instincts |
anigbrowl |
Mar-13-08 01:44 AM |
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because |
johnnydrama |
Mar-13-08 03:59 AM |
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Here's your answer: They knew they were going to lose SC |
cali |
Mar-13-08 04:09 AM |
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Rove is using a CREEP 1972 dirty trick, smear one Dem, blame another, |
McCamy Taylor |
Mar-13-08 04:23 AM |
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So you're saying Ferraro made no such comments? |
XemaSab |
Mar-13-08 05:33 AM |
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It was desperation. |
bowens43 |
Mar-13-08 04:29 AM |
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Seriously. |
stolidus |
Mar-13-08 04:41 AM |
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You're naive if you think liberals aren't racist too |
XemaSab |
Mar-13-08 05:37 AM |
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She wouldn't. The accusation makes no sense whatsoever. |
Perry Logan |
Mar-13-08 05:43 AM |
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Before SC, she had decent sized numbers, but AFTER BC popped off |
SoCalDem |
Mar-13-08 05:43 AM |
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