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42. So, as long as whites are more than 50% of the electorate, it is wrong to ask whether there's a
Edited on Thu Mar-13-08 07:49 AM by EffieBlack
problem with them voting 99% year after year after year for white candidates against black candidates?

For example, in 2004, white Democratic votes were split between Kucinich, Dean, Kerry, Edwards, and Sharpton as follows:

Kerry 64%
Edwards 21%
Dean 5%
Kucinich 5%
Sharpton 1%


On the other hand, in the same year, black Democratic votes were split this way:

Kerry 65%
Edwards 15%
Dean 5%
Kucinich 3%
Sharpton 5%


In other words, 99% of white voters voted for white candidates and against the black candidate, who got less than 20% of the vote of the lowest polling white candidate. On the other hand, 94% of black voters voted for white candidates and against the black candidate. You don't see anything telling in these numbers?

If the fact that 80-90% of black voters are voting for Obama this time around is somehow proof of black racism, wasn't it racist for 99% of white voters to vote for white candidates in the past? And if black voters have consistently supported white candidates over black candidates in the past, what proof do you have that black support for Obama is based on his race and is therefore, racist? What changed between 2004 and now that has suddenly turned black voters into a pack of racists, something we clearly weren't four years ago?

Or could it be that, unlike white voters, black voters have consistently voted for whomever they thought would be the best representative, regardless of race, notwithstanding the consistent attempts to view everything we say, do and think through a prism of race - something that is never done to white voters?
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  -Poll question: Is it racist when 90% of white people in America vote for the White candidate? ericgtr  Mar-12-08 09:37 AM   #0 
  - 90% of white people voted for Hillary Clinton?  northzax   Mar-12-08 09:40 AM   #1 
  - Call it a hypothetical  ericgtr   Mar-12-08 09:40 AM   #3 
  - of course it is  northzax   Mar-12-08 09:49 AM   #12 
  - You can't answer a question posed in this way.  marekjed   Mar-12-08 09:55 AM   #19 
  - Except you said "when" not "if"  spoony   Mar-12-08 09:59 AM   #22 
  - It doesn't say Hillary Clinton  kokono   Mar-12-08 09:42 AM   #5 
     - ok, so let's take another example  northzax   Mar-12-08 09:45 AM   #10 
        - As a white person, I agree with the black voters 99%  kokono   Mar-12-08 09:51 AM   #14 
           - most people don't  northzax   Mar-12-08 09:57 AM   #20 
           - No he would not.  kokono   Mar-12-08 10:15 AM   #27 
              - no, that is the negative part of racism  northzax   Mar-12-08 10:21 AM   #28 
                 - I'm sorry you lost me, what is the positive part of racism?  kokono   Mar-12-08 10:40 AM   #30 
                    - well, there are identity politics than can be very useful  northzax   Mar-12-08 10:45 AM   #31 
                       - The problem is love beats hate.  kokono   Mar-12-08 11:06 AM   #32 
           - Except for Rice and the Powell family.  mac2   Mar-13-08 07:26 AM   #38 
  - This is not a fair poll when a majority of the people in this  mac2   Mar-12-08 09:40 AM   #2 
  - Ahh.. so it's only racist if blacks vote for blacks then? n/t  ericgtr   Mar-12-08 09:41 AM   #4 
     - What?  mac2   Mar-12-08 09:49 AM   #11 
  - This only happened in Miss.  skooooo   Mar-12-08 09:42 AM   #6 
  - Right  mac2   Mar-12-08 09:52 AM   #15 
  - Until this year, 99% of Democratic voters voted for white candidates in the primaries  EffieBlack   Mar-13-08 07:31 AM   #40 
  - Bad question. People vote for candidates for various reasons. I would have voted.....  Exilednight   Mar-12-08 09:43 AM   #7 
  - Is it sexist when women vote for the woman?  TheZug   Mar-12-08 09:44 AM   #8 
  - if that's the reason they are going it, yes  northzax   Mar-12-08 09:50 AM   #13 
  - Exactly my point  ericgtr   Mar-12-08 09:52 AM   #17 
  - What about the fact that a women might be more sympathetic  mac2   Mar-12-08 09:54 AM   #18 
  - In between  dmallind   Mar-12-08 09:44 AM   #9 
  - Too many variables.  Ronnie   Mar-12-08 09:52 AM   #16 
  - Yes, it would be.  Beacool   Mar-12-08 09:58 AM   #21 
  - So white voters in 2004 were racist?  EffieBlack   Mar-12-08 10:03 AM   #24 
     - Al Sharpton?  northzax   Mar-12-08 10:24 AM   #29 
        - Yep, it's called overreaching..........  Beacool   Mar-12-08 11:14 AM   #33 
        - Not at all - if black voters were voting for candidates solely because they're black, they SHOULD be  EffieBlack   Mar-12-08 12:09 PM   #34 
  - you are not giving enough information on these polls. either way ir people base their decision on  Johnny__Motown   Mar-12-08 10:01 AM   #23 
  - Yes, it's racist  cricket08   Mar-12-08 10:10 AM   #25 
  - kick  AX10   Mar-12-08 12:40 PM   #37 
  - 100% of presidents have been White; Blacks were enslaved, disenfranchised, and discriminated against  George_Bonanza   Mar-12-08 10:13 AM   #26 
  - Everyone of a different race can be racist and angry.  mac2   Mar-13-08 07:30 AM   #39 
  - Voting for a person because of the color of his skin is racist.  BenDavid   Mar-12-08 12:36 PM   #35 
  - About the only way I see  marions ghost   Mar-12-08 12:40 PM   #36 
  - Bad Question.  Mystery2Me   Mar-13-08 07:33 AM   #41 
     - So, as long as whites are more than 50% of the electorate, it is wrong to ask whether there's a  EffieBlack   Mar-13-08 07:49 AM   #42 
 

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