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| 71. He is winning the popular vote at present |
| -Obama not winning popular vote, so why does he claim he is? |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:03 PM |
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He is winning the popular vote with Florida included |
TAWS |
Mar-10-08 04:04 PM |
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He took his name off the ballot in MI |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:05 PM |
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Why does the rasmussen poll show him tied with Clinton in Michigan and him winning it in the GE? |
TAWS |
Mar-10-08 04:07 PM |
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they still voted for her BECAUSE SHE KEPT HER NAME ON THE BALLOT |
dmsRoar |
Mar-10-08 04:07 PM |
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I guess if you are a dem and the only dem on the ballot is hillary I |
movonne |
Mar-10-08 04:09 PM |
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Hillary only got 50% of MI votes--and she was the only name on the ballot! |
marshall |
Mar-10-08 08:08 PM |
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The 40% who voted "none of the above" in Michigan should count for Obama then.... |
scheming daemons |
Mar-10-08 04:07 PM |
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Obama Told Them To Vote For Undecided. So She Wasn't Running Unopposed. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Mar-10-08 04:10 PM |
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Bingo... so you have to give the 40% "Undecided" votes to him..... |
scheming daemons |
Mar-10-08 04:12 PM |
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Why do you have to? HE took his name OFF the ballot |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:15 PM |
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No. It was not his decision. |
earthside |
Mar-10-08 04:26 PM |
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Sorry, but that is simply untrue |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:33 PM |
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If everyone knew that MI would not count, (even Hillary expressed verbal acknowledgement of it) |
PseudoIntellect |
Mar-10-08 08:07 PM |
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I say "NO" to the re-vote. They are not disenfranchised. |
bilgewaterbill |
Mar-11-08 12:05 AM |
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So they shouldn't count at all? |
PseudoIntellect |
Mar-11-08 01:27 AM |
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They should not count any differently now than they were going to |
bilgewaterbill |
Mar-11-08 05:54 AM |
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and some including Dodd and DK decided to keep their names ON |
rodeodance |
Mar-10-08 07:15 PM |
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Kucinich's name was only left on due to paperwork issues. |
last_texas_dem |
Mar-11-08 01:28 AM |
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Personally? I Don't Mind That. A Few Of Those % Were Probably Not His, But Overall I'd Agree. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Mar-10-08 04:26 PM |
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It needs to be divided with Edwards and whoever else was still in then. |
anamandujano |
Mar-11-08 01:23 AM |
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John Conyers said that. |
ingin |
Mar-10-08 05:03 PM |
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You are wrong |
cali |
Mar-10-08 07:21 PM |
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Actually, John Conyers and his wife ran a campaign to get Uncommitted voters |
wlucinda |
Mar-10-08 04:16 PM |
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Yea, but did EVERY OTHER candidate except Hillary... |
ALiberalSailor |
Mar-10-08 05:00 PM |
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He took his OWN name off the ballot...not too bright. |
DemVet |
Mar-10-08 04:29 PM |
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Mkay... |
snooper2 |
Mar-10-08 04:04 PM |
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I thought BO supporters said it would be over.... |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:10 PM |
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It's been over for weeks.... you Hillbots and your candidate are just in denial... |
scheming daemons |
Mar-10-08 04:11 PM |
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I agree! NT |
caledesi |
Mar-10-08 04:30 PM |
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And HRC herself stated she would wrap this thing up on Super Tuesday |
yourguide |
Mar-10-08 04:18 PM |
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She was so sure that she would wrap it up on Super Tuesday that her campaign |
madmunchie |
Mar-10-08 07:02 PM |
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Like GW & Rummy failing to plan the occupation. Crappy management, pure & simple. |
elehhhhna |
Mar-10-08 07:21 PM |
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She was wrong and Obama and you all were wrong about ending the race |
anamandujano |
Mar-11-08 01:25 AM |
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Ack... |
Abacus |
Mar-10-08 04:19 PM |
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He's also not winning in delegates, so I don't know what he's talking about |
sniffa |
Mar-10-08 04:05 PM |
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People Don't Come to See Him Speak |
otohara |
Mar-10-08 04:18 PM |
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I know you hate Obama |
GoPsUx |
Mar-10-08 04:05 PM |
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Yes, he is. In Hillary's word's Michigan and Florida "don't count" (her words, not mine). |
Bread and Circus |
Mar-10-08 04:05 PM |
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According to realclearpolitics.com... he's winning the popular vote... |
scheming daemons |
Mar-10-08 04:06 PM |
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No, he isn't, even according to them |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:07 PM |
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If you (correctly) county the "none of the above" MI vote for Obama, he is..... |
scheming daemons |
Mar-10-08 04:09 PM |
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HE took his name off the ballot in MI |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:14 PM |
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Except that 35-40% of that vote was for someone other than St. Obama... |
jackson_dem |
Mar-10-08 07:37 PM |
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Not exaclty - here is the link |
bhikkhu |
Mar-10-08 04:14 PM |
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HE took his name off the ballot |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:16 PM |
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Perhaps in Cuba that constitutes a valid election... |
bhikkhu |
Mar-10-08 04:48 PM |
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You know.... |
Hepburn |
Mar-10-08 07:26 PM |
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That is only with FL and MI, he wasn't on the ballot in MI |
harun |
Mar-10-08 07:28 PM |
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GO BACK INTO YOUR CAGE!!! Damn I hate level 2 n/t |
burythehatchet |
Mar-10-08 04:07 PM |
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Me too. |
bunnies |
Mar-10-08 04:08 PM |
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This is like a descent into hell. My 200+ Ignored list was making DU bearable again |
burythehatchet |
Mar-10-08 04:11 PM |
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Its amazing isnt it? |
bunnies |
Mar-10-08 04:25 PM |
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We're sadistic |
southern_dem |
Mar-11-08 01:01 AM |
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That's hysterical! Thanks for the laugh!! |
elixir |
Mar-10-08 04:13 PM |
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:) |
bunnies |
Mar-10-08 04:20 PM |
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Is that what happened? |
TheDoorbellRang |
Mar-10-08 04:10 PM |
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You know what's sad, I put like 5 people on Ignore before I realized they were already |
burythehatchet |
Mar-10-08 04:12 PM |
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Even if you count MI and FL |
pbca |
Mar-10-08 04:09 PM |
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he is winning the popular vote.... please provide a link to your assertions |
ORDagnabbit |
Mar-10-08 04:09 PM |
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You proved my point, thank you |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:11 PM |
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Hillary said "Michigan doesn't count for anything".... and I agree with her. You should too. |
scheming daemons |
Mar-10-08 04:10 PM |
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She had enough respect for them to leave her name on the ballot |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:13 PM |
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Respect?? A lot of us in Michigan were insulted.... |
tokenlib |
Mar-10-08 04:18 PM |
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I think what everyone is forgetting is that the primary doesn't have to be democratic... |
nothingtoofear |
Mar-10-08 04:11 PM |
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ummm- where are you getting your numbers? they seem to be wrong. |
QuestionAll |
Mar-10-08 04:12 PM |
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Let's try a credible source |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:21 PM |
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Ha! |
Nederland |
Mar-10-08 04:37 PM |
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You forgot * |
kokono |
Mar-10-08 04:38 PM |
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you seem to have a BIG FAT ASSterisk missing from your totals... |
QuestionAll |
Mar-10-08 04:57 PM |
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Whatever exceptions we can get so Hillary can seem to be ahead must be the only thing that's right. |
PseudoIntellect |
Mar-10-08 08:16 PM |
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Obama is the front runner. EOM |
Genevieve |
Mar-10-08 04:14 PM |
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The frontrunner that less people prefer... |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:22 PM |
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Wrong -- |
Genevieve |
Mar-10-08 04:35 PM |
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Sorry, you don't get to pretend people in MI and FL didn't vote |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:38 PM |
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He would still lead, don't redefine reality ... nt |
Genevieve |
Mar-10-08 04:41 PM |
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FL and MI held invalid elections. They don't count, simple as that. |
JackORoses |
Mar-10-08 04:14 PM |
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The facts remain more people have voted for her than him |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:19 PM |
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How is actually counting voters "manipulating" anything? |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:27 PM |
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Florida and especially Michigan does not count |
gravity |
Mar-10-08 04:16 PM |
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I don't have to "rationalize" anything... |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:18 PM |
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More people voted FOR Hillary |
gravity |
Mar-10-08 04:23 PM |
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MI and FL were actual elections |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:34 PM |
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Actually down here Florida was referred to as a "Beauty Contest" |
bagimin |
Mar-10-08 11:49 PM |
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Obama still leads in the popular vote even if you count Florida. |
Window |
Mar-10-08 05:17 PM |
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For OBamafolk who constantly whin about -that state "doesn't count"-you have NO argument! |
rodeodance |
Mar-10-08 07:17 PM |
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Randi R ... Ed Shultz..Steph M... |
indimuse |
Mar-10-08 04:29 PM |
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Keith Olbermann, Thom Hartmann, |
walldude |
Mar-11-08 12:01 AM |
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So even if you count the unfair MI primary where Obama wasn't on the ballot, |
ContinentalOp |
Mar-10-08 04:29 PM |
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Nothing unfair about it |
MagsDem |
Mar-10-08 04:37 PM |
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No, 'what's pathetic' is that you continue to argue |
americanstranger |
Mar-10-08 04:55 PM |
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You are right again MagsDem!! |
CampDem |
Mar-10-08 04:56 PM |
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Because He IS and you are a LIAR |
quakerboy |
Mar-10-08 04:39 PM |
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She won uncontested primaries. By that logic Sadaam is the most popular prez in world history w/ 99% |
theaudacity |
Mar-10-08 04:40 PM |
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Only with Orwellian arithmetic is Obama behind HRC in popular votes |
ProgressiveEconomist |
Mar-10-08 04:45 PM |
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Post your factual numbers to back up your claim, or STFU. |
Window |
Mar-10-08 04:50 PM |
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He is winning the popular vote at present |
dmordue |
Mar-10-08 04:56 PM |
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Don't confuse them with facts... |
OzarkDem |
Mar-10-08 04:58 PM |
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Mags... |
Window |
Mar-10-08 04:59 PM |
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Link? I want to put that in my file. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Mar-10-08 07:47 PM |
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You can spin and twist all you want... It will not change the facts. |
demdog78 |
Mar-10-08 05:03 PM |
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Yawn |
George_Bonanza |
Mar-10-08 05:03 PM |
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What About the Independents |
CindyKay |
Mar-10-08 05:06 PM |
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since when is a closed primary unfair? |
Omega3 |
Mar-10-08 07:25 PM |
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You are quite simply wrong on the facts even including MI and FL AS IS.. HERE ARE THE FACTS. |
Perky |
Mar-10-08 06:55 PM |
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He is no matter how you count it.. why are you claiming he isn't |
Johnny__Motown |
Mar-10-08 06:56 PM |
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Simple. Obama will LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL to get the nomination. |
CyberPieHole |
Mar-10-08 07:04 PM |
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God you are obnoxious. |
against all enemies |
Mar-10-08 07:17 PM |
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bwahahahah.a. And YOU |
cali |
Mar-10-08 07:26 PM |
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What kind of anti Democrat logic is this? |
dcindian |
Mar-10-08 07:06 PM |
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Only a POS would count the MI votes, are you counting them? |
against all enemies |
Mar-10-08 07:16 PM |
#87 |
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the PA governor tried to do the same thing on MTP |
Mystery2Me |
Mar-10-08 07:26 PM |
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flailing wildly now, we're returning to the "inevitability meme" at this late date? |
Lerkfish |
Mar-10-08 07:20 PM |
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poor, pitiful little magsdem |
cali |
Mar-10-08 07:25 PM |
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baracka obama spin is nothing new. |
flordehinojos |
Mar-10-08 07:35 PM |
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. |
Hav |
Mar-10-08 08:05 PM |
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After tomorrow even the lie of MI won't matter |
SoonerPride |
Mar-10-08 07:50 PM |
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Hillary's behind by all accounts so why does she offer the VP slot to the frontrunner? |
kwenu |
Mar-10-08 07:54 PM |
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Someone needs to push your off button |
NeedleCast |
Mar-10-08 07:55 PM |
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Numbers - the math - supports HRC |
bajamary |
Mar-10-08 08:01 PM |
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Obama's caucus wins net him a few thousand votes. |
PseudoIntellect |
Mar-10-08 08:14 PM |
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No it doesn't |
Upton |
Mar-10-08 08:15 PM |
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Wrong... |
Hav |
Mar-10-08 08:15 PM |
#112 |
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Look, over there...!!! Get that windmill....!!! n/t |
krkaufman |
Mar-10-08 08:14 PM |
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All things considered.... |
Drachasor |
Mar-10-08 08:28 PM |
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Is this like opposite day or perhaps Bizarro World? |
Turn CO Blue |
Mar-10-08 11:54 PM |
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if you're going to count MI give most of the uncommitted to Bo. |
annie1 |
Mar-10-08 11:55 PM |
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If you are going to include fucking MI at least give the "not Clinton" votes to Obama for fucks sake |
NMMatt |
Mar-10-08 11:55 PM |
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I am in Fl. I voted, knowing the only thing being counted was my |
usnret88 |
Mar-11-08 12:08 AM |
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Smart people understand that Florida and Michigan are... |
AX10 |
Mar-11-08 12:09 AM |
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..Th popular vote is a canard |
Gore1FL |
Mar-11-08 12:54 AM |
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JESUS, not this shit again............. n/t |
DearAbby |
Mar-11-08 12:57 AM |
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Bump. |
avrdream |
Mar-11-08 03:13 AM |
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As of this moment in time NOTHING "counts" that came from FL & MI |
SoCalDem |
Mar-11-08 03:21 AM |
#131 |
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Because he is |
CreekDog |
Mar-11-08 04:12 AM |
#132 |
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