LulaMay
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Sun Mar-09-08 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 23. That is a LIE. The leading Senator practically begged Dean to help work it out, and then had to SUE |
| -Why was South Carolina allowed to change its primary to an earlier date and wasn't even sanctioned? |
saracat |
Mar-09-08 02:08 PM |
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You think Hillary lost because of the date? Why did Puerto Rico change to a primary from a caucus? |
ProSense |
Mar-09-08 02:10 PM |
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It isn't about who won. It is about "Why" they weren't sanctioned |
saracat |
Mar-09-08 02:12 PM |
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I'm not sure about this(you can only remember so much) but back |
movonne |
Mar-09-08 02:23 PM |
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Why caucus changed to primary for PR? That's easy: because caucuses are undemocratic.... |
suston96 |
Mar-09-08 02:14 PM |
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The main reason |
PATRICK |
Mar-09-08 02:24 PM |
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Didn't it have to do with the size of the state? |
efhmc |
Mar-09-08 02:11 PM |
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It was a deal |
dsc |
Mar-09-08 02:11 PM |
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yep |
crispini |
Mar-09-08 02:20 PM |
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Yes, I find that curious. |
lizzy |
Mar-09-08 02:12 PM |
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Any state that wanted to go early asked the DNC for permission |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 02:12 PM |
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Why didn't they help FL knowing state Rethugs were changing the date, & Dems couldnt over-ride it? |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:18 PM |
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DNC tried to talk to FL, but FL wouldn't communicate. |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 02:23 PM |
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That is NOT TRUE. SEN NELSON practically begged Dean to help, he wouldn't. Nelson SUED DEAN. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:36 PM |
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They refused to listen to Dean and the DNC. Why are you spreading lies like this? |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:37 PM |
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I have read, seen interviews w/ Sen Nelson. Dems couldn't over-ride Rethug votes, |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:42 PM |
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Please document where Sen. Nelson tried to stop Reps from moving date. |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 03:07 PM |
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Oh, Senator Nelson did no such thing! |
orangepeel68 |
Mar-09-08 05:37 PM |
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I wish you would stop saying it was Deans fault...do you read, or look |
movonne |
Mar-09-08 02:27 PM |
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He's the CHAIRMAN, and Sen Nelson asked him to help because Rethugs were controlling the date switch |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:34 PM |
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Dean said they bypassed the DNC and went to the media for attention. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:40 PM |
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Because Florida didn't compalin until 2007 when it was too late |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-09-08 05:32 PM |
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Well we lobbied for AZ , which was alot more representaive of the west than Nevada and |
saracat |
Mar-09-08 02:18 PM |
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HI did also. We have the most diverse population in the nation. |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 02:24 PM |
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Because they did it within the rules, as opposed to against the rules. |
Exilednight |
Mar-09-08 02:13 PM |
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I've never felt good about how Dean did this whole thing. It stunk from the beginning. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:15 PM |
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Umm... The FL Democratic party supported changing the date.. |
mckeown1128 |
Mar-09-08 02:36 PM |
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Read this. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:45 PM |
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Waaaaah! Michigan and Florida didn't say pretty please like Nevada and South Carolina... |
suston96 |
Mar-09-08 02:16 PM |
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You people who post this repetitive, juvenile reply make this board look ridiculous. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:19 PM |
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Yes, rules are rules, and the DNC voted on the schedule |
rateyes |
Mar-09-08 02:19 PM |
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We have a CHAIRMAN & LEADERS who refused to help FL Dems when Rethugs changed the date |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:21 PM |
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FL Dems weren't asking for help. They weren't even speaking to the DNC on this. |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 02:26 PM |
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That is a LIE. The leading Senator practically begged Dean to help work it out, and then had to SUE |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:29 PM |
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Gelber Minority Leader in FL House admits they wanted the move. |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 03:01 PM |
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Senator Nelson if you wondered. Call his office, go ahead and ask him. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:31 PM |
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HEY....read this and stop spreading lies. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:35 PM |
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I remember reading those journals mad. |
avrdream |
Mar-09-08 02:50 PM |
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They wanted to break the rules for Hillary. |
dkf |
Mar-09-08 03:03 PM |
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I do not know all the details, but |
Inuca |
Mar-09-08 02:30 PM |
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Read my comments above yours. I know the details of FL. It stinks. Dean screwed it up. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:32 PM |
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That is a lie. Florida leaders did it to the people. Deliberately . |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:34 PM |
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Fl Dems couldn't over-ride the Republicans. Nelson tried getting Dean to help. Bottom line. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:38 PM |
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No, Dean said they bypassed the DNC |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:42 PM |
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WOW!! n/t |
Inuca |
Mar-09-08 02:45 PM |
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Are you from/in Florida |
donheld |
Mar-09-08 02:39 PM |
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Sen. Nelson has been interviewd on tv recent days. Voting record is fact. Look it up yourself. |
LulaMay |
Mar-09-08 02:44 PM |
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Everybody has friends in FL. |
donheld |
Mar-09-08 03:03 PM |
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Your argument would be a little more believable if you ever used links |
TheDoorbellRang |
Mar-09-08 03:16 PM |
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Mar-09-08 07:11 PM |
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Everyone hates me today. I think I will cry. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 07:14 PM |
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They got permission from the DNC because they were leapfrogged |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:33 PM |
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saracat, it started a while ago, and, it was put out by the DNC, McAuliffe in '04 |
Emit |
Mar-09-08 02:35 PM |
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Um, I think the key word is "allowed" nt |
thecatburgler |
Mar-09-08 02:38 PM |
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The DNC allowed 'exceptions' |
BooScout |
Mar-09-08 02:41 PM |
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Not true. 4 states were in the pre-window.... |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:44 PM |
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The campaigns competing for that state's delegates raised no objection |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-09-08 02:41 PM |
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saracat, you know better. You are politically knowledgeable... |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 02:43 PM |
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I sadly agree :-( n/t |
Inuca |
Mar-09-08 02:47 PM |
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Actually, I do know the process. I am not sure I agree with how it played out. |
saracat |
Mar-09-08 03:11 PM |
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I agree that Dean may have played |
Inuca |
Mar-09-08 03:33 PM |
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Please explain how if he worked within the process of the rules. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 05:29 PM |
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I do not know |
Inuca |
Mar-09-08 05:36 PM |
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The state party leaders for Hillary could have avoided it easily. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 05:48 PM |
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What "should" have happened? |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 05:32 PM |
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Florida and Michigan didn't complain when Dean was taking applications for early status |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-09-08 05:36 PM |
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I'm confused |
kananikui |
Mar-09-08 03:18 PM |
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Maybe you have not researched. I have. Here you go. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 05:30 PM |
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In hindsight, it would have been good if the penalty was stripping the superdelegates |
orangepeel68 |
Mar-09-08 05:46 PM |
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In fact I posted about how they went to the DNC for permission. |
madfloridian |
Mar-09-08 05:33 PM |
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States parties were given an opportunity to apply to move their primary earlier |
orangepeel68 |
Mar-09-08 05:34 PM |
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