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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:10 PM
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38. I understand what you wrote. I couldn't disagree with you more.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:11 PM by VolcanoJen
I think all states matter, and I think states should act independently and hold the type of election that they choose. I've always rejected the Politburo style of Democratic party politics. I'm more of the Howard Dean, Markos "crashing the gates" ilk. I'm into the 50-state strategy. I want the party to be more representative and farther-reaching. I think Democrats in red states count. I should know (so should you), I am one.

It's fine that you feel so strongly. But I'm not on a crusade and I am capable of understanding you. I just disagree with you. Isn't the first time, either.
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  -Why the Caucus system has to go... WCGreen  Mar-08-08 03:44 PM   #0 
  - Have you ever participated in a caucus?  sparosnare   Mar-08-08 03:47 PM   #1 
  - No because I am disabled and can't guarantee that I can get to  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:51 PM   #5 
  - Shouldn't be any different than getting to a primary site.  Abacus   Mar-08-08 04:01 PM   #26 
     - He's one of the lucky ones...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:06 PM   #32 
        - They shouldn't; our state allowed absentees for shut-ins but again,  Abacus   Mar-08-08 04:08 PM   #35 
        - Primaries allow for a long stretch of time...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:35 PM   #56 
        - Maine has absentee voting  Donna Zen   Mar-08-08 04:11 PM   #42 
  - Yaknow all those times people raise a ruckas at polls because someone placed a candiates button...  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:51 PM   #6 
  - Those would be Diebold touch screens. n/t  Kukesa   Mar-08-08 03:55 PM   #12 
  - the MAIN reason they need to go  SoFlaJet   Mar-08-08 03:48 PM   #2 
  - You have no idea who I voted for....  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:53 PM   #9 
     - all I know is you fit the profile  SoFlaJet   Mar-08-08 03:56 PM   #16 
        - Well then you fit the profile  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:08 PM   #36 
           - peace WC  SoFlaJet   Mar-08-08 04:10 PM   #39 
              - Thank you....  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:12 PM   #44 
                 - It's kind of like 300 here  SoFlaJet   Mar-08-08 04:14 PM   #47 
  - Save the Caucus vs Primary talk till after the GE please.  Zachstar   Mar-08-08 03:48 PM   #3 
  - Some of us have been talking down about caucuses since 2000.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:52 PM   #7 
  - I always had a distates for the Caucus system...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:57 PM   #18 
  - Why, it has to be setted at the convention...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:54 PM   #11 
     - Yeah, the superdelegates will have to consider the disproportionate nature of the process.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:56 PM   #15 
  - Primaries that Obama won don't count  VolcanoJen   Mar-08-08 03:50 PM   #4 
  - The OP did not say that, please don't lie and distort.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:53 PM   #10 
  - You mean the Clinton team didn't pre-spin an Iowa Caucus loss?  VolcanoJen   Mar-08-08 04:01 PM   #27 
  - Give me a fucking break....  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:55 PM   #14 
     - I understand what you wrote. I couldn't disagree with you more.  VolcanoJen   Mar-08-08 04:10 PM   #38 
        - Then disagree...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:23 PM   #48 
           - I'm so tired of pithy  VolcanoJen   Mar-08-08 04:28 PM   #52 
  - It's up to the STATES.. we have no national rules about how states select their delegates  SoCalDem   Mar-08-08 03:52 PM   #8 
  - Red states can't afford primaries.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:55 PM   #13 
  - The delegate selection process is controlled by the states  cosmik debris   Mar-08-08 03:57 PM   #17 
  - Your state effects the national outcome so yea, I should have a say in  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:58 PM   #21 
  - Tough shit  cosmik debris   Mar-08-08 04:00 PM   #25 
     - my, my, getting a little too close to the truth for you, eh? n/t  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:06 PM   # 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-08 04:09 PM   #37 
        - heh, heh -- thanks for the kicks -- so the caucus problems can be exposed. n/t  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:11 PM   #41 
     - No sour grapes...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:25 PM   #49 
  - The DNC actually controls this process, and they can take caucusing out of their delegation...  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:59 PM   #24 
  - This is why 56% of Democrats believe PV should be the decider at the DNC.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 03:57 PM   #19 
  - Republicans tend not to waste time meeting with democrats  kokono   Mar-08-08 03:58 PM   #20 
  - Texas Caucus  sorrybushisfromtexas   Mar-08-08 04:27 PM   #51 
  - Why The Caucus System Has To Go? Because Hillary is LOSING, of course.  berni_mccoy   Mar-08-08 03:58 PM   #22 
  - Again, you have no idea how I voted...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 03:59 PM   #23 
     - How come we are only hearing about this now then?  berni_mccoy   Mar-08-08 04:02 PM   #28 
        - I have been calling to rid the party of caucuses and superdelegates  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:05 PM   #30 
           - So post it in another forum. It doesn't belong here. And I apologize for generalizing your stance.  berni_mccoy   Mar-08-08 04:06 PM   #31 
              - there is nothing wrong with posting here in this forum. n/t  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:14 PM   #46 
              - Excuse me...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:26 PM   #50 
                 - absolutely, WC. Seems that some want to shut down discussion on this topic. n/t  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:29 PM   #53 
  - I'm certain that if Hillary was winning the caucuses  bowens43   Mar-08-08 04:03 PM   #29 
  - You have no idea who I voted for in my primary...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:11 PM   #43 
  - WC, THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT THREAD AS TO WHY CAUCUSES SHOULD GO! N/t  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:06 PM   #33 
  - Oh, and WC, people don't like it when you speak the truth.  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:08 PM   #34 
  - I say screw 'em  gaspee   Mar-08-08 04:11 PM   #40 
  - example of why caucuses have to go -- three precincts' votes won't count in TX  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:13 PM   #45 
  - Classic example....  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:33 PM   #54 
  - Texas Caucus  sorrybushisfromtexas   Mar-08-08 04:34 PM   #55 
     - So, you came prepared. So what? The votes in those 3 precincts won't count. n/t  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:35 PM   #57 
  - The TX caucuses need to go because they ARE NOT DEMOCRATIC  antigop   Mar-08-08 04:37 PM   #58 
  - only 30000 people showed up to caucus in WA? Bullshit.  chascarrillo   Mar-08-08 04:47 PM   #59 
  - Check here...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 04:55 PM   #60 
     - That's the number of state delegates, not the caucus attendance.  Usrename   Mar-08-08 06:08 PM   #64 
        - Those are the caucus goers...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 06:14 PM   #65 
           - Obama had a rally in Seattle that had 21,000 attendees.  Usrename   Mar-08-08 07:01 PM   #66 
  - It'll be moot in 2012..nobody's running against President Obama  GalleryGod   Mar-08-08 04:59 PM   #61 
  - A good time to test the fifty state primary system...  WCGreen   Mar-08-08 06:08 PM   #63 
  - Proud to be the fifth rec for the Greatest Page...  CaliforniaPeggy   Mar-08-08 05:50 PM   #62 
 

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