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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:08 PM
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55. dont forget HILLZILLA's love of cluster bombs either n/t
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  -Michigan 'firehouse primary' nixed by Obama camp ContinentalOp  Mar-08-08 10:43 AM   #0 
  - So , judging by what we have seen, it was HRC's camp that rejected this  Capn Sunshine   Mar-08-08 10:44 AM   #1 
  - Let me get this straight.  11 Bravo   Mar-08-08 11:02 AM   #16 
  - Mark Brewer is a Clinton supporter - and the Obama campaign did not  Debi   Mar-08-08 11:07 AM   #21 
     - Exactly, just as it was the McClinton campaign that told Canada not to worry about NAFTA  IndianaGreen   Mar-08-08 11:16 AM   #29 
     - I thought it was established that Hillary Clinton is not a monster? n/t  Debi   Mar-08-08 11:37 AM   #41 
     - She has said that a nuclear first strike against Iran in on the table  IndianaGreen   Mar-08-08 11:44 AM   #44 
     - dont forget HILLZILLA's love of cluster bombs either n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-08-08 12:08 PM   #55 
     - As far as some of know..  zidzi   Mar-08-08 05:04 PM   #92 
     - nice try, NAFTA-gate  seybor   Mar-11-08 11:24 AM   #99 
     - Brewer, Dingle, Stabenaw, Granholm, Levin are all Clinton supporters. The early primary  Windy   Mar-08-08 11:21 AM   #32 
        - Just like in Florida...  madfloridian   Mar-08-08 12:43 PM   #62 
  - This s bad form by Ms Clintons surrogates  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 11:48 AM   #45 
  - this is so pitiful  fadedrose   Mar-08-08 08:55 PM   #98 
  - That was my first thought -nt-  ContinentalOp   Mar-08-08 11:48 AM   #47 
     - Me too. (see below) n/t  Laelth   Mar-08-08 01:39 PM   #77 
  - What is a "Firehouse primary"? I do know HRC nixed Caucuses.  Kittycat   Mar-08-08 10:46 AM   #2 
  - Firehouse Primary, sounds right up Obama's alley...  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 10:54 AM   #8 
     - Actually - i'm pretty sure the way the Gov wants to set it will  Kittycat   Mar-08-08 11:01 AM   #15 
     - Um your just a little off, but close....  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 11:15 AM   #28 
     - In other words, it's a caucus, but it doesn't have pretend mechanisms in place...  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 11:39 AM   #42 
     - Protections from manipulation of a Vote.......  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 11:58 AM   #50 
        - You have reports of the same sorts of manipulations in Obama's caucus wins.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 12:47 PM   #64 
           - No YOU have annectdotes, if there were manipulations they would have been reported and reviewed....  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:00 PM   #67 
           - Again you are not from Michigan are you?  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:07 PM   #69 
              - Do you have a link to his proposal in *this* instance?  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 01:12 PM   #71 
     - Interesting. Thanks for the info.  ContinentalOp   Mar-08-08 11:48 AM   #46 
     - BTW, the key point is that a firehouse primary is like a regular primary. You can arrive at any time  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 11:51 AM   #48 
        - The internet is not your friend.....  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 12:04 PM   #52 
           - You think the MI party would tell the voters they can't vote?  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 12:46 PM   #63 
              - I honor your tenacity but you are wrong......  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:26 PM   #72 
                 - Feel free to link me to the Governors proposal.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 02:44 PM   #87 
     - Obama is afraid of a Dems only primary  OzarkDem   Mar-08-08 12:05 PM   #53 
        - It wont be a dems only election.......  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 12:16 PM   #60 
           - No but it will be a real election, with registered voters  OzarkDem   Mar-08-08 01:09 PM   #70 
              - Um you do realize a fiehouse primary is a caucus.  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:28 PM   #73 
                 - So why does Obama oppose it?  OzarkDem   Mar-08-08 05:34 PM   #93 
  - Why The Hell Would He Balk At That???  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-08 10:48 AM   #3 
  - He didn't - Mark Brewer - A super delegate supporting Hillary Clinton  Debi   Mar-08-08 11:10 AM   #22 
  - Oh Ok. I Know The Reasons Hadn't Been Supplied, But Didn't Know There Was Question As To The  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-08 11:12 AM   #25 
     - Haven't seen any press release by Obama questioning the validity of Chairman Brewer's claims *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:21 AM   #33 
     - Or any press releases from Obama saying he will allow Mich  styersc   Mar-08-08 11:27 AM   #35 
        - Obama: "The Rules say I can veto Michigan's plan and I will" "Rules are Rules!" *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:29 AM   #37 
     - I'm the only one doing that - you'd think the reporter would have done so  Debi   Mar-08-08 11:39 AM   #43 
  - Do you know anything about Firehouse primaries  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 11:20 AM   #31 
     - Doesn't Sound Any Worse Than Caucuses, But I Bet You Support Them...  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-08-08 11:24 AM   #34 
     - Agreed... reads pretty close to a caucus...  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:28 AM   #36 
     - Like a caucus?  OzarkDem   Mar-08-08 12:06 PM   #54 
  - does that mean democrat registered voters only? nt  Little Star   Mar-08-08 10:50 AM   #4 
  - Because he doesn't want the will of any voter to take this away from him at this point. *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 10:50 AM   #5 
  - right, since the voters haven't had a say in this up to now  Capn Sunshine   Mar-08-08 10:56 AM   #11 
  - In Michigan, they haven't. Let all voters be heard. Why won't he now agree to a redo? *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 10:57 AM   #12 
     - Because the Governor doesn't want ALL voters to be heard.  Kittycat   Mar-08-08 11:03 AM   #17 
        - Why is it so offensive to many here  MonkeyFunk   Mar-08-08 11:05 AM   #19 
        - Especially after the Rush Limbaugh crap? *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:11 AM   #24 
        - Which only benefitted Ms Clinton and is the only way she is still in this campaign  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 12:08 PM   #56 
           - And yet Obama gets more votes from Republicans  MonkeyFunk   Mar-08-08 12:48 PM   #66 
           - That is corrrect. in mixed precincts he does also get more independants.  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:45 PM   #78 
           - Already been debunked. Rethugs for Obama 53/46 in Texas and higher elsewhere *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 01:29 PM   #74 
              - Source please  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:33 PM   #75 
                 - CNN.COM exit polls for Texas. Check 'em out and report back with your whining  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 01:53 PM   #81 
                    - Um exit polls are not votes other wise Mr Obama would be president  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 02:23 PM   #85 
                       - So we should go based off of your conjecture, that Rethugs broke for Clinton over exit polls? HAHA!  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 02:29 PM   #86 
                          - Exit polss are conjecture where you dont know the immediate criteria  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 03:28 PM   #88 
        - So you want to disenfranchise the independents & cross-overs that voted?  Kittycat   Mar-08-08 05:00 PM   #90 
        - Why should DEMOCRATS  ruggerson   Mar-08-08 11:32 AM   #38 
           - This would also not let some democrats vote  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 01:53 PM   #80 
              - Because it excludes new and young voters that don't vote for HRC.  Kittycat   Mar-08-08 05:01 PM   #91 
  - that's about the size of it. nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-08-08 02:08 PM   #83 
  - Strange--this article is rather lacking in information....  tokenlib   Mar-08-08 10:51 AM   #6 
  - "That's what I've been told by his campaign, but it's not my place to inquire about motivations"*NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 10:52 AM   #7 
  - ....says a Super Delegate supporting Hillary Clinton.....n/t  Debi   Mar-08-08 11:11 AM   #23 
  - At least he didn't make his own interpretation on the Obama campaign's intentions *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:14 AM   #26 
  - It's the muslim comment, recycled & re-wrapped with a big bow"  SoCalDem   Mar-08-08 01:04 PM   #68 
  - Yep, they fucked it up, now want to be granted a reprieve  Obama_for_our_future   Mar-08-08 11:01 AM   #14 
  - I suppose this would be an inappropriate time to comment on how smokin hot Granholm is.  Bucky   Mar-08-08 10:55 AM   #9 
  - LOL  Capn Sunshine   Mar-08-08 10:57 AM   #13 
  - Good viewpoint in comments section  Obama_for_our_future   Mar-08-08 10:56 AM   #10 
  - Nice link to a scathing "Obama quiz" from this site, too  Obama_for_our_future   Mar-08-08 11:04 AM   #18 
  - So Mark Brewer - a supporter of Hillary Clinton - told the media that the Obama campaign  Debi   Mar-08-08 11:05 AM   #20 
  - They Shouldn't Get Anything, But The Clinton Camp Did Reject Caucuses  DrFunkenstein   Mar-08-08 11:14 AM   #27 
  - Because Caucuses disenfranchise voters... Why do caucuses always have lower attendance... Hmmmm.....  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:19 AM   #30 
     - Because people want their politics to be very easy  Obama_for_our_future   Mar-08-08 01:51 PM   #79 
  - Why should the candidates have ANY say?  Milo_Bloom   Mar-08-08 11:35 AM   #39 
  - Thats what I was wondering as well. *NT*  lewis_in_fw   Mar-08-08 11:37 AM   #40 
  - Agreed 100%. Neither candidate should have a say here. Firehouse primaries are the best way to go.  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 11:53 AM   #49 
  - In 2004 we could vote in the caucus on the internet, by mail, or in person....n/t....  tokenlib   Mar-08-08 12:00 PM   #51 
  - Which is how it should be -- thanks for the info  LostinVA   Mar-08-08 12:12 PM   #59 
  - They are actually cucauses.....  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 12:12 PM   #58 
     - You think that people showing up to the caucus would allow that to happen?  joshcryer   Mar-08-08 12:48 PM   #65 
        - Um they have no choice......  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 03:30 PM   #89 
  - If thats the case then its a moot point  ThatBozGuy   Mar-08-08 12:25 PM   #61 
  - If Hillary gets to nix a primary or caucus choice, so does Obama  Mystery2Me   Mar-08-08 12:10 PM   #57 
  - This sounds awfully familiar.  Laelth   Mar-08-08 01:38 PM   #76 
  - I'll bet it is a lie  Obama_for_our_future   Mar-08-08 01:55 PM   #82 
  - Especially in Michigan where he will gain delegates, most likely.  Laelth   Mar-08-08 02:13 PM   #84 
  - Nuttiness  Marie26   Mar-08-08 05:40 PM   #94 
     - I hear ya, and I don't think Obama is a saint.  Laelth   Mar-08-08 06:57 PM   #95 
        - Not really  Marie26   Mar-08-08 07:19 PM   #96 
           - I see. You make a solid argument.  Laelth   Mar-08-08 08:46 PM   #97 
  - Because he would lose any revote of both MI and FL  MagsDem   Mar-11-08 11:29 AM   #100 
 

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