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Thu Mar-06-08 05:17 PM
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Even though I support Obama, I think the attack on Clinton for dissing Mississippi is terribly unfair, when what Clinton did was absolutely correct and even courageous.
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| -Hillary's right. Mississippi is the worst state for women in numerous studies. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 12:46 PM |
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LOL! I can't believe Iowa is as shitty as Mississippi! That can't be! |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-06-08 12:47 PM |
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Iowa isn't even in the bottom ten on the status of women, so you're right. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 12:48 PM |
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State Rankings |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:01 PM |
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We're talking about Mississippi. Were you educated here? |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:24 PM |
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Your also talking about education and state rankings |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:37 PM |
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I presented facts. You present warped opinions. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:39 PM |
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Historically, Arkansas has always ranked at or near the bottom |
Arkansas Granny |
Mar-06-08 03:49 PM |
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Just telling what dems in Hawaii said |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 05:41 PM |
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Your claim is that a Democratic governor's wife "drove" their state to 50th in education? |
yardwork |
Mar-06-08 05:00 PM |
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Bill claim he put her in charge of Arkansas education |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 05:44 PM |
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These stats may be true |
ExFreeper4Obama |
Mar-06-08 12:50 PM |
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These stats ARE true, and I appreciate Hillary shining light on it. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 12:51 PM |
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So does Obama |
Alhena |
Mar-06-08 01:08 PM |
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He's said nada about the status of women here. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:25 PM |
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Here's an account of his visit to Mississippi on June 15, 2007. |
snappyturtle |
Mar-06-08 02:10 PM |
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so what. they are or maybe be true. she STILL NEEDS TO WIN |
roguevalley |
Mar-06-08 02:42 PM |
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Hillary has always stood up for women ,Im proud she stands up to inequity |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-06-08 01:35 PM |
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What about Monica, Paula, etc (always??) |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:39 PM |
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Can you read---poster said Hillary. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 02:04 PM |
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They were adult women who could stand up for themselves |
DemBones DemBones |
Mar-06-08 04:22 PM |
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If it is out there Hillary "Ken Starr" Clinton would have used it |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 05:47 PM |
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The topic is about Mississippi--stay on topic please. |
rodeodance |
Mar-07-08 02:41 AM |
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Oh, but have you seen this about O-man? |
Jamastiene |
Mar-07-08 02:45 AM |
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Here's a hint. When you join DU with a poster name "ExFreeper4Obama" |
yardwork |
Mar-06-08 05:01 PM |
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So shouldn't she be campaigning there even MORE? |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-06-08 12:50 PM |
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She'll certainly discuss these things tonight at the state Democratic dinner. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 12:51 PM |
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campaign finances |
printpolitico |
Mar-06-08 12:55 PM |
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Shining a light, how about doing something about it |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:20 PM |
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The Clintons will be in the state for the remainder of the week. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:23 PM |
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Spotlight those things please. I'm in the dark |
printpolitico |
Mar-06-08 01:28 PM |
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Obamatons know that. they know the condition of african americans there too. they don't care. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Mar-06-08 12:51 PM |
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African Americans will answer you at the ballot box and your |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:22 PM |
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Do what? My post is factual. And you seem to forget that half of the blacks in this state.. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:29 PM |
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I wonder what the reaction would be from |
BOSSHOG |
Mar-06-08 12:52 PM |
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Mabus is the only person I'm seeing reading her the riot act about what she said. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 12:54 PM |
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So, what's your point? They don't get a say in politics because your candidate is likely to lose? |
Justitia |
Mar-06-08 12:53 PM |
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If you're too dense to "get the point," then I can't help you. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 12:55 PM |
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I know he probably wont win Mississippi in the GE |
ExFreeper4Obama |
Mar-06-08 12:58 PM |
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You know, since you were once a Freeper...I really have no desire to hear your thoughts... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:02 PM |
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Oh, I get your point entirely. Red State Dems hate women - it's a pre-emptive strike. |
Justitia |
Mar-06-08 12:58 PM |
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Nope. I'm illuminating the status of women in my state. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:00 PM |
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Nope, you are ass-covering for her expected loss & throwing MS Dems under the bus to do it. |
Justitia |
Mar-06-08 01:03 PM |
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You are so full of Obama adoration that you can't even rationally discuss this topic. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:05 PM |
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I'm calling Clinton spin for the bullshit it is. I am a VERY hardworking Dem in a RED STATE |
Justitia |
Mar-06-08 01:08 PM |
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I'm a very hardworking Dem in my state, too. And I appreciate the light being shone... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:09 PM |
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hahah...good one Maddy |
cricket08 |
Mar-06-08 01:43 PM |
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you sure made an **a of yourself! |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 02:01 PM |
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At least he'll fight for it |
WolverineDG |
Mar-06-08 01:02 PM |
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The plight of women in Mississippi |
BOSSHOG |
Mar-06-08 12:57 PM |
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How Very Clever Of Her To Bring That Up In The Run Up To Their Primary... |
JimGinPA |
Mar-06-08 12:55 PM |
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It is the OBAMAFOLK who want her to drop so--so it is who do not want Miss to 'count"!! |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:10 PM |
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My god! How did she let that continue while her and Bill were in the White House? |
John Q. Citizen |
Mar-06-08 12:56 PM |
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Amen. |
Justitia |
Mar-06-08 01:00 PM |
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Actually, the DOL under Clinton allocated enough federal funding... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:07 PM |
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She was busy messing up health care at the time |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:16 PM |
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She was the vanguard for American demands for universal health care. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:21 PM |
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She shines lights but does not accomplished things |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:26 PM |
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She had vision. Your candidate was a member of the Choomp Gang... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:27 PM |
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She messed it up, lost congress for us and accomplished |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:42 PM |
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She is a fighter. Immediately after she went right to work for the SCHIP program. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 02:06 PM |
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Here's a link that refers to the money Obama went after in the |
snappyturtle |
Mar-06-08 02:22 PM |
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Um, I wish i could but i can't. Jesse Jackson ran in 1988 on single payer. When |
John Q. Citizen |
Mar-06-08 03:09 PM |
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Yes.... |
lmbradford |
Mar-06-08 02:03 PM |
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Welfare Reform was implemented by governors |
OzarkDem |
Mar-06-08 04:07 PM |
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Sounds like the lost that state and now attack the people |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 12:57 PM |
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She is raising the issue of Gender politics in the Deep South. Got it now? |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 02:03 PM |
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A dream ticket bid would expose Hillary haters... |
mculator |
Mar-06-08 12:59 PM |
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She would dangle the prospect of a joint ticket to get votes |
thecatburgler |
Mar-06-08 01:03 PM |
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Here comes Hillary, the human lawn mower... |
TwoSparkles |
Mar-06-08 12:59 PM |
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And the elevation of an affluent white woman to the Presidency through nepotism |
thecatburgler |
Mar-06-08 01:01 PM |
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I didn't say that. Glad you can stay on topic in this thread. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:03 PM |
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I don't care what your topic was. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-06-08 01:08 PM |
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I presented factual data. You want to go off on your woman hating tangent. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:10 PM |
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How come she did not fix this in the senate? |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:19 PM |
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Ever heard of the Violence Against Women Act? |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:20 PM |
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Tell me what she did with it |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:28 PM |
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So you're admitting, then, that you lack knowledge on this topic. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:30 PM |
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Obama does things for women, Hillary and Bill do things |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:13 PM |
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"I don't care what your topic was." -- At long last, you show honesty! |
LostinVA |
Mar-06-08 01:23 PM |
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Would be better than being educated in Arkansas when |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:09 PM |
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And we consistently have been 51st. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:10 PM |
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I can't find the stats right now, but I lived in Arkansas and had |
Arkansas Granny |
Mar-06-08 04:01 PM |
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Mississipi doesn't count! n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-06-08 01:01 PM |
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Here comes another broken record comment from a Hillary basher. No creativity at all. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 01:24 PM |
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Don't you have some spin to devised? n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-06-08 02:46 PM |
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I do not spin |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:35 PM |
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You do realize that by continuing this crap on that state you are ruining any chance she had right? |
Zachstar |
Mar-06-08 01:24 PM |
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Faulty logic. Were you educated in Mississippi's public school system? |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:25 PM |
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No I was not. |
Zachstar |
Mar-06-08 01:31 PM |
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They would be much better off under Miss education |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:31 PM |
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Bullshit. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:32 PM |
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You keep bringing up the "educations" system in Arkansas. Do |
Arkansas Granny |
Mar-06-08 04:02 PM |
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I have asked many times this |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 05:55 PM |
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Excellent and enlightening post |
Onlooker |
Mar-06-08 01:25 PM |
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The problem was the way she made her comments |
hnmnf |
Mar-06-08 01:27 PM |
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I'm sure she'll address that tonight. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:28 PM |
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I agree with you. She may have been right, but the way she said it was increbily offensive to MS |
hnmnf |
Mar-06-08 02:02 PM |
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Thanks for an informative thread. Hillary was right to raise this issue. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 01:28 PM |
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Thanks, rd. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:31 PM |
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give it a REC |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 01:29 PM |
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Is "Mississippi is the worst state." |
workinclasszero |
Mar-06-08 01:31 PM |
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Thanks for adding nada to this thread. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:32 PM |
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Hope they ask about how she messed up education for women |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:35 PM |
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Take your one-trick-pony and start your own thread... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:36 PM |
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How come you will not answer her record in education |
surfin |
Mar-06-08 01:40 PM |
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Because this thread is about MIssissippi. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:56 PM |
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stay focused. this thread is about Miss. |
rodeodance |
Mar-07-08 02:44 AM |
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Maybe we should invade. |
NorthernSpy |
Mar-06-08 01:31 PM |
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I've got to go to work, where I earn a fraction of what my male colleagues earn... |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:33 PM |
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Of course she's right, but idiotic to criticize a state when she needs their votes |
Hippo_Tron |
Mar-06-08 01:34 PM |
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Tomato, tomahto. Idiotic, brave. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:35 PM |
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Maybe she should just pass it over then. |
kwenu |
Mar-06-08 01:35 PM |
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She's here today. Will be here tomorrow. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-06-08 01:36 PM |
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He'll be there Monday: |
snappyturtle |
Mar-06-08 02:48 PM |
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Maybe Hillary thinks MS is worthwhile afterall. Can't wait to hear her fake southern drawl again. |
kwenu |
Mar-06-08 04:54 PM |
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Seems BO thinks it worthwhile also since he will show up also |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:05 PM |
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Obama never insulted Mississippi!!!!!!!!!! |
kwenu |
Mar-06-08 05:24 PM |
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and Bill is there--will be tomorrow also. The Clintons do not run for issues. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 02:00 PM |
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Yeah. We guess they are primarily motivated by power too. |
kwenu |
Mar-06-08 05:01 PM |
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by your logic: BO IS MOTIVATED BY POWER. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:03 PM |
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Explain, please? Or risk looking really stupid. |
kwenu |
Mar-06-08 05:23 PM |
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Maybe Bill is going to be there late tonight but he had three stops |
snappyturtle |
Mar-06-08 05:19 PM |
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As a native West Virginian, I can tell you the right way to approach a poor state |
theboss |
Mar-06-08 01:45 PM |
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why is Obama so stingy? is this how he really feels about the less fortunate? |
amborin |
Mar-06-08 01:51 PM |
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Its a horrible state for women's health care |
OzarkDem |
Mar-06-08 04:04 PM |
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And that's exactly the message Hillary should carry. |
kwenu |
Mar-06-08 04:57 PM |
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Ok, I understand the problems |
southern_dem |
Mar-06-08 04:27 PM |
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Maybe nobody will finance their campaigns. |
yardwork |
Mar-06-08 05:05 PM |
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Read the reports. they give the reasons. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:08 PM |
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kick |
Onlooker |
Mar-06-08 05:17 PM |
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So it shouldn't count? |
Exilednight |
Mar-06-08 05:22 PM |
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Why do you say that? It would not count if Obamafolk got their way and she dropped out!! |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:32 PM |
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She had to apologize to the State of Mississippi last year |
powergirl |
Mar-06-08 05:28 PM |
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Yes, she did ----this is what the OP is referring to. |
rodeodance |
Mar-06-08 05:31 PM |
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This is The Home State of Trent "Strom Thurmond Was Right" Lott |
DrFunkenstein |
Mar-06-08 06:10 PM |
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Let's be honest. Mississippi is not first in many things. |
Neshanic |
Mar-07-08 02:46 AM |
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