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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #28
32. Wired News did their own analysis
And they are pretty tech savvy and you can vote

63% of 4500 votes say it was:
"Troutnut's got a point. This is an underhanded, dirty way to wage a presidential campaign."

link:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/03/did-the-clinto...
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  -OH MY! FACT CHECK HAS POSTED A DOCTORED VIDEO OF CLINTON'S "TRUE" AD berni_mccoy  Mar-05-08 11:53 PM   #0 
  - Recommended  Cronus Protagonist   Mar-05-08 11:57 PM   #1 
  - Looks like everything the same darkness to me.  moobu2   Mar-05-08 11:58 PM   #2 
  - You had better seek an optometrist.  BushDespiser12   Mar-06-08 12:00 AM   #3 
  - It might look that way on a laptop, especially on battery power.  anigbrowl   Mar-06-08 12:02 AM   #7 
  - Yeah, Who Could Think Darkening A Black Man's Face In An Attack Ad Would Be Offensive To Anyone?  JimGinPA   Mar-06-08 12:05 AM   #10 
     - nt  seabeyond   Mar-06-08 12:20 AM   #22 
  - Email fact check  anigbrowl   Mar-06-08 12:00 AM   #4 
  - You're all wrong? If you have explained all, please point me to the link.  BushDespiser12   Mar-06-08 12:03 AM   #8 
  - I have notified both Kos and Fact Check. We'll see who responds.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:28 AM   #26 
  - Kick.  hey560   Mar-06-08 12:01 AM   #5 
  - I hope you notify them of your findings!  No Surrender   Mar-06-08 12:01 AM   #6 
  - Thanks. I notified both Kos and Fact Check. Kos has responded. No Comment from Fact Check. Yet.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 02:23 PM   #72 
  - your screen grabs are different widths  blogslut   Mar-06-08 12:03 AM   #9 
  - No, they are not. They are fit to the movie size, both are 640x480. The left video  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:06 AM   #12 
     - The images themselves are the same width  blogslut   Mar-06-08 12:15 AM   #17 
        - No, the player is the same size in both left and right. download the movies yourself  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:17 AM   #18 
           - Well, it wasn't the players themselves  blogslut   Mar-06-08 12:29 AM   #27 
              - Fair point. I've edited the post so you can see the images top/bottom as well.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:36 AM   #33 
  - The concluding summation paragraph in Fact Check was revealing also  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-06-08 12:05 AM   #11 
  - Here's what I think happened  blogslut   Mar-06-08 12:13 AM   #15 
     - So, why distort the size of his face then? To stretch it to be wider than it is?  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:14 AM   #16 
     - Her video was formatted to wide-screen  blogslut   Mar-06-08 12:18 AM   #20 
        - Clinton's Video is HOW IT AIRED AND PLAYS on a normal T.V. (same aspect ratio)  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:21 AM   #23 
           - Nooo  blogslut   Mar-06-08 12:31 AM   #29 
              - You aren't listening: Fact Check DOCTORED The Video. The same top/bottom black bars are on it.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:38 AM   #34 
     - just as plausible, but.... without them owning up to what they did, we question and HRC supporters  seabeyond   Mar-06-08 12:23 AM   #25 
  - Hillary will bring honesty and integrity to the Whitehouse, erm maybe erm hmmm....  barack the house   Mar-06-08 12:07 AM   #13 
  - MSNBC revealed that there's no way Hillary can catch up to Obama's ....  Hieronymus   Mar-06-08 12:10 AM   #14 
  - Make that 70%  discerning christian   Mar-06-08 12:18 AM   #19 
  - One thing about all this..  FlyingSquirrel   Mar-06-08 12:19 AM   #21 
  - Not when I watch them playing Side-by-Side on my LCD. They Look COMPLETELY DIFFERENT  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:22 AM   #24 
     - I didn't look at the fact check one... If they altered Clinton's, then that's  FlyingSquirrel   Mar-06-08 12:30 AM   #28 
     - Wired News did their own analysis  Ichingcarpenter   Mar-06-08 12:35 AM   #32 
     - The first thing done when making political attack ad  moobu2   Mar-06-08 12:31 AM   #30 
        - you are totally bogus.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:39 AM   #35 
  - There is no doubt they darkened the video...  Milo_Bloom   Mar-06-08 12:31 AM   #31 
  - I was watching the history channel a few weeks ago  moobu2   Mar-06-08 12:49 AM   #36 
     - I would love to have seen those vicious attack ads in George Washigton's day  FlyingSquirrel   Mar-06-08 12:55 AM   #37 
     - If it's just innocent attack ad fun, WHY EDIT THE VIDEO TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF IT WASN'T DARKENED?!  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 12:59 AM   #38 
     - Its an attack ad  moobu2   Mar-06-08 01:06 AM   #39 
        - You aren't Answering the question: WHY DOCTOR IT TO LOOK LIKE THEY DIDN'T?!  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 01:10 AM   #40 
     - The "Everybody does it" defense.  Milo_Bloom   Mar-06-08 09:57 AM   #70 
  - It's starting to look like this was a made up issue from the very beginning  guruoo   Mar-06-08 01:15 AM   #41 
  - Made Up? Etc...  Nick Lento   Mar-06-08 10:52 PM   #80 
     - Yes. Made up...  guruoo   Mar-07-08 02:33 AM   #83 
  - et tu, FactCheck?  EmperorHasNoClothes   Mar-06-08 01:36 AM   #42 
  - Kicking for the morning crew.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 07:56 AM   #43 
  - Frankly, his skin looks unaturaly lightened in the lighter version. Where I  AchtungToddler   Mar-06-08 07:56 AM   #44 
  - You missed the point. WHY WOULD FactCheck DOCTOR THE ORIGINAL VIDEO?  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:21 AM   #45 
     - I don't think Fact Check did any thing of the sort. I think you've gone over the deep end  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:28 AM   #47 
     - !  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-06-08 08:29 AM   #50 
     - You wild-eyed hillary supporters are sounding more like Bush's 19% every day.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:30 AM   #53 
        - Ad hominem  LeftCoast   Mar-06-08 08:31 AM   #55 
        - He's ended the debate with insults and needs to be made aware of his own insanity  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:34 AM   #57 
           - you need to calm down. I'm just someone who thinks you're argument is full of it.  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:41 AM   #63 
        - there it is, the accusation of republicanism  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:34 AM   #59 
           - Your last refuge is to ignore the facts. That's just like the Bush 19%. Good luck with that.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:36 AM   #60 
              - now you've gone and hurt my feelings  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:42 AM   #64 
                 - I'm sorry bigtree, I truly am.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 09:44 AM   #69 
     - I didn't miss the point, I just think your full of yourself and hyped up on your pet theory  AchtungToddler   Mar-06-08 04:54 PM   #73 
  - the bottom one looks SLIGHTLY darker, but more realistic. The others have highlights  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:27 AM   #46 
  - You are completely Blind not to mention AVOIDING the POINT. Why Would FactCheck DOCTOR it at ALL?  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:28 AM   #48 
     - go holler at someone who gives a shit. I think this is completely ignorant.  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:29 AM   #52 
        - If you don't give a shit, then why are you spamming this thread?  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:31 AM   #54 
           - spamming? heh. If I agreed with you I'd be welcome.  bigtree   Mar-06-08 08:33 AM   #56 
              - Well, I will thank you for kicking the post so much. Thanks!  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:34 AM   #58 
  - adjust your meds! and here it is again>>>>always an Obama peep playing the race card  ElsewheresDaughter   Mar-06-08 08:28 AM   #49 
  - Take off your blinders.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:29 AM   #51 
  - Fact check says the ad is darker, but they don't think it's race motivated  Bleachers7   Mar-06-08 09:13 AM   #66 
  - Fact check says the ad is darker, but they don't think it's race motivated  Bleachers7   Mar-06-08 08:38 AM   #61 
  - What I don't get is why they would Change the original? Their whole article is suspect now.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:39 AM   #62 
  - The fact check article is bullshit.  Bleachers7   Mar-06-08 09:12 AM   #65 
     - I agree. But they didn't just write a b.s. story, they tried to COVER IT UP by DOCTORING the video.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 09:40 AM   #68 
  - I'm suuuure it was just an honest mistake.  No Surrender   Mar-06-08 09:14 AM   #67 
     - I don't recall if Cheney was pushing it then, but they sure have revealed themselves  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 11:49 AM   #71 
     - he tried but he got the url wrong  eShirl   Mar-06-08 05:01 PM   #75 
  - The one on the right looks better. The other looks compressed and washed out  HughMoran   Mar-06-08 04:59 PM   #74 
  - Factcheck replies directly to Berni_McCoy...  IndyOp   Mar-06-08 08:16 PM   #76 
  - My response is here:  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 08:18 PM   #77 
  - More Obama-myths busted  OzarkDem   Mar-06-08 08:20 PM   #78 
  - The first time I uploaded a video to youtube  lwfern   Mar-06-08 08:27 PM   #79 
  - The original Clinton Video is stretched in comparison to the MSNBC digital feed.  berni_mccoy   Mar-06-08 11:06 PM   #81 
  - They admit in the article that the video WAS darkened  zulchzulu   Mar-06-08 11:18 PM   #82 
 

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