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Wed Mar-05-08 10:28 PM
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| 100. How so? You should be sorry for your misstatements and irrelevant responses. |
| -Canada: Telling Americans we have no right to know. Obama: Lesson 1, No Cheney Style meetings. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:06 PM |
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The Clinton campaign was first to contact Canada about NAFTA |
DJ13 |
Mar-05-08 09:07 PM |
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Not claiming privacy. Not to say one thing publicly and another privately. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:10 PM |
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Obama's advisor didn't do that. That's been debunked. Sorry, no ammo here. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:13 PM |
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Fact is--both Canada and Obama were in FULL damage control yesterday. |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:36 PM |
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actually |
leftofcool |
Mar-05-08 09:15 PM |
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Please tell us the SECRET SOURCE |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-05-08 09:16 PM |
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Exactly. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:27 PM |
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yes, Obama owes Americans an apology for making deals behind our backs |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 09:08 PM |
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I think it is another example of his inexperience that causes poor knee jerk response |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:12 PM |
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Can you find me the quote where Obama said that Goulsbee DIDN'T |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:16 PM |
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Oh yes, it's all so complicated. His campaign flat out denied meeting with them period. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:24 PM |
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Find me a quote that specifies that once the media fingered Goulsbee |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:26 PM |
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Durbin flatly denied it on TV Monday. It's Goolsbee, though I like Ghoulsbee. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:31 PM |
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Denied that a meeting took place, or denied the substance or purpose |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:43 PM |
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Denied that a meeting took place. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:46 PM |
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Well, I guess Durbin was wrong, but then, I don't see a link or a quote. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:46 PM |
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Here ya go. |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-05-08 09:55 PM |
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Obama said that Goolsbee didn't meet with the Canadians to tell |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:00 PM |
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Thank you HH! When the facts are so well known, I don't always post a link. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:10 PM |
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Maybe that's because |
tyne |
Mar-05-08 09:15 PM |
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Yep, blame the Clintons |
leftofcool |
Mar-05-08 09:17 PM |
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This has nothing to do with ineptitude. This was an entirely fabricated hit job. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:18 PM |
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Even the Cnadian government doesn't deny the facts, but were angry the memo was leaked. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:52 PM |
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What facts? Goolsbee never said anything to them that was different |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:55 PM |
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That's not what the memo states. Were you there? The Canadians are doing classic damage control. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:22 PM |
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The Embassy admits that Goolsbee's story is accurate. Sorry, toots. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:31 PM |
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what's rotten is Obama denied any meeting ever occurred, until confronted with the evidence |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 09:17 PM |
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He sure did. |
leftofcool |
Mar-05-08 09:17 PM |
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In the initial story, he didn't deny a meeting occurred, just doubted it, and |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:21 PM |
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ha---the RW Canada gov got caught--pub. relations is to go into damage control mode--get it!! |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:40 PM |
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Much ado about nothing |
StClone |
Mar-05-08 09:16 PM |
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Fact: Obama denied any meeting happened, until the evidence was in his face |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 09:18 PM |
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You have your facts 100% wrong. The EMBASSY denied that |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:24 PM |
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No. His campaign denied it repeatedly. Durbin denied it flat out on TV Monday. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:26 PM |
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I don't care what Durbin said. Tell me where Obama lied about Goulsbee. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:27 PM |
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You should care. He was speaking on Obama's behalf for the campaign. and |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:37 PM |
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His camp "doubted" the initial meeting, in the WRONG first version of the |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:41 PM |
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So, none of his advisors knows what they're doing, or what is going on? How is this an answer? |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:44 PM |
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NONE of them, or one advisor that discussed something? That's a pretty |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:47 PM |
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PS- That's what I want, a president who claims to be unaware of what his staff is doing |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:26 PM |
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His advisor was CONTACTED, not the other way around. I guess |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:30 PM |
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and held a meeting without Obama approving it or knowing about it? How comforting. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:40 PM |
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That's all ya got left, now, huh? Hate to see a good scandal crumble, don't ya? |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:45 PM |
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What? What is "all ya got left?" Your statement doesn't even make sense. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:50 PM |
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You thought you had something, and it crumbled to dust. Hee! |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:51 PM |
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No, you went around in circles over whether Obama denied it, or his advisor did it, or...? |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:56 PM |
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The story is nothing. The main point of it, Obama lying about NAFTA, is debunked. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:01 PM |
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1. The meeting and remarks were not debunked 2. His lying about the meeting is the main point. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:13 PM |
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He did not lie. It was Hillary's campaign that lied. Sorry. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:14 PM |
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How so? You should be sorry for your misstatements and irrelevant responses. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:28 PM |
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Your entire post is bogus. Hillary is the one with the NAFTA problem now. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:30 PM |
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fact: Obama had denied there was any meeting, until confronted with evidence |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 10:00 PM |
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He told the truth. 'Nuff said. He denied that one of his advisors |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:03 PM |
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he was wishy washy and reporters and OHIO unions knew that. Hense the lose in OHIO |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 10:19 PM |
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That is very spot on...contributing to his loss. Ohioans know the score. They didn't appreciate it. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:29 PM |
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Hillary lied to Ohio. And the rest of the country will find out. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:30 PM |
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Once again Bill was doing his own thing |
StClone |
Mar-05-08 09:46 PM |
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Obama's embassador contacted the Chicago office of Canada |
ada chupitos perez |
Mar-05-08 09:45 PM |
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Uh, no. Unless you can find me a link that says Goolsbee contacted |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:45 PM |
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Tell that to Bill |
StClone |
Mar-05-08 09:31 PM |
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Sounds like Bush doesn't it? |
leftofcool |
Mar-05-08 09:31 PM |
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Oh for Chrissakes |
StClone |
Mar-05-08 09:32 PM |
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Yes. His responses in situations like this are troublesome. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:35 PM |
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Canda was parsing words yest. and along with Obama were in FULL damage cont. mode!! |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:38 PM |
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Mutual damage control....made them both look very bad. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:41 PM |
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Obama was supposed to answer questions |
StClone |
Mar-05-08 09:44 PM |
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Waiting to hear all about Hillary and the Canadians, now that Obama's |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:49 PM |
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HA HA---that is the point--BO tried to 'esplan' but he just kept digging a hole! |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:53 PM |
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yes--I heard BO press conf. He came across lame. |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:49 PM |
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Sun Times reporters came to Texas because he'd evaded their questions for weeks. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:58 PM |
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evade, squirm, run off in a huff |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 10:02 PM |
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He turned and quickly walked away. It shows both inexperience and poor reaction |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:16 PM |
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An apology is in order, as is an explanation. |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-05-08 09:41 PM |
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I'm waiting for Hillary to explain why she told the Canadians not to worry about NAFTA. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:50 PM |
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Nice attempt to change the subject. The first tactic of all high-school debate teams. |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-05-08 09:57 PM |
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:) |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:59 PM |
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Why did Hillary lie about NAFTA? Because we know Obama didn't. |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:03 PM |
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please do not include me in your "we". and Where is this 'lie" you claim HRC did? |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 10:17 PM |
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You are really grasping at straws now, trying to change the charge to her, and misstate the facts. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:24 PM |
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Did you see the link? |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:26 PM |
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What in the world are you talking about? |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:33 PM |
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This thread-- |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:36 PM |
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Please see my response to this below. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 11:01 PM |
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Repetition of the same sub-level tactics will not produce a new result, |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-05-08 11:59 PM |
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I think so too, from Hillary: |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 09:53 PM |
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Where is Hillary's tax return? |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 09:41 PM |
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Avoid the question, change the subject....zero points. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:42 PM |
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No, the OP is stupid, the story is bogus, and Harper is investigating in damage control mode |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 09:45 PM |
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The Canadian government responds to a bogus story? Now that's stupid. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 09:47 PM |
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See, stupid. The Canadian government is investigating the source of the bogus story. |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 09:50 PM |
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Don't continue to call names or I won't respond. The C governement is investigating WHO 'leaked' |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:01 PM |
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None of this matters the story is bogus. Do you think Obama is opposed to free trade? |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 10:12 PM |
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Your behavior wouldn't be tolerated in any debate, you know? |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:05 PM |
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Let me make it into a full sentence: "See, this is stupid." |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 10:13 PM |
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In a debate you score zero points with simple name calling and rude behavior. I won't reply again. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:19 PM |
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I repeat the OP is stupid, the article is bogus. I don't care about your point system. n/t |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 10:31 PM |
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ROVE IS HERE again FOLKS---changing the subject . Watch out. ROVE IS ON THIS THREAD!! |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:51 PM |
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Here: |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 09:55 PM |
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ROVE is up to his tricks again. ALL STAY AWAY---STINKY |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:57 PM |
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Yeah, Hillary's adopted his tactics and landed |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 10:00 PM |
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POT MEET KETTLE |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 10:20 PM |
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Are you saying I'm the same as Hillary when it comes to Rove? |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 10:32 PM |
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I think you've squeezed all the juice out of that bullshit. |
AtomicKitten |
Mar-05-08 09:50 PM |
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yup: BO ended up looking like BS |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:54 PM |
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I guess you missed this: "A Hollow Victory Based on a Lie" |
AtomicKitten |
Mar-05-08 09:56 PM |
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Hillary 3:1 yesterday. She has the MOJO~~ go Hillary. |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 09:58 PM |
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Moved her solidly into second place ... Wait! Isn't that where she started? |
AtomicKitten |
Mar-05-08 09:59 PM |
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The momentum is hers...and the powers that be can't stand that they don't bring her down. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:06 PM |
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yup |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 10:24 PM |
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She wins a canned ham for coming in second. |
AtomicKitten |
Mar-05-08 10:29 PM |
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I thought 2nd place prize was a gift certificate for a free small coke at Wendy's? |
Lord Helmet |
Mar-05-08 10:57 PM |
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I don't think any invasions are planned for oil. |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 09:56 PM |
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Could you explain what you're saying more? |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:07 PM |
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Easy. Comparing that with the Cheney Energy Task Force is a stretch |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 10:33 PM |
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The comparison was made about the secrecy and denials, thougn I do believe economic policy is as |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:56 PM |
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Obama is running on a platform of no more back room politics, ie: Bush & Cheney secrecy. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:59 PM |
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Hillary supporters lecturing on openness - you people become more Orwellian by the minute. -nt |
NMMatt |
Mar-05-08 10:09 PM |
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Did you have a point or reply to the facts? What does "you people" mean? |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:15 PM |
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Supporters of the health care task force despot lecturing others about openness |
NMMatt |
Mar-05-08 10:30 PM |
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Changing the topic, avoiding an answer, calling names, don't speak anything to the question. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:38 PM |
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So what's the truth here?? |
kentuck |
Mar-05-08 10:35 PM |
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Hillary did--the media decided to go after Obama, though-- |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:37 PM |
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This article confirms that CTV reported the Obama campaign made innappropriate remarks, and |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:53 PM |
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LOL! Nice spin. The Canadian government has confirmed Obama's |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 10:56 PM |
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No, the CAN government has said it was angry about the memo being 'leaked' |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 11:06 PM |
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They apologized for mischaracterizing Goolsbee's remarks and confirmed |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 11:10 PM |
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My point is that he denied the meeting, and the CAN government telling us we have no right to know |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 10:43 PM |
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He doubted the bogus meeting that CTV talked about--when he got the facts in |
wienerdoggie |
Mar-05-08 11:09 PM |
#123 |
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