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won those states in the primary?
I think at best it's a jump ball with anybody. There's a lot of crap that can happen between March and November for any of these candidates.
Adding to the problem is that FL and OH voters on a whole don't seem to be the most reasoned people on the planet. We all know OH went for Bush in 2004, but now the MSM is citing all of these exit polls showing focus on jobs and the economy. What will they think is important when McCain gets on board his Flip Flop Fear Express and reminds them that the terrorists want to blow up their homes while they sleep at night, and only his experience can save them from it? How about when 527s remind them how scary the Democrats are on taxes? I think when it comes to dirty politics these people lap it up, and it's hard to get decent messages across in an environment like that.
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| -I hate to say it, but Hillary is making a better case for the nomination. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 01:58 PM |
#0 |
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The problem is Hillary is too much like McCain. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 01:59 PM |
#1 |
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Yeah, because McCain is going to fight for universal health care and bring home the troops. |
anamandujano |
Mar-05-08 02:01 PM |
#6 |
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Voted for the war before she voted against it |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#14 |
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Silly remark |
JoFerret |
Mar-05-08 04:12 PM |
#195 |
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I'm talking about how McCain will frame her. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 06:30 PM |
#219 |
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Dust off those ol' adages and throw them like frisbees. Congratulations. |
elixir |
Mar-07-08 10:12 AM |
#240 |
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She's not going to get that ridiculous health care plan passed |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#41 |
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Agreed. People should just stop factoring that in deciding whether to vote for her |
Unsane |
Mar-05-08 02:17 PM |
#51 |
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You don't have the right to presume to tell anyone what to factor into their vote. |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-05-08 04:10 PM |
#193 |
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Huh? Sure I do. |
Unsane |
Mar-05-08 04:43 PM |
#206 |
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There will be damned good progress |
JoFerret |
Mar-05-08 04:09 PM |
#192 |
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So every civilized country on the planet has a 'ridiculous health care plan'? |
Seeker30 |
Mar-05-08 09:50 PM |
#226 |
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Other countries have national health care. |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 09:59 PM |
#227 |
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Mandatory private health insurance is NOT universal health care. Get it through your head. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 02:28 PM |
#76 |
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Universal means everyone. A mandate requires everyone sounds like the same to me. |
elixir |
Mar-05-08 06:59 PM |
#223 |
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Wrong. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 10:04 PM |
#229 |
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Right. |
elixir |
Mar-07-08 10:14 AM |
#241 |
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How do you figure that? Both of our dems are |
Justyce |
Mar-05-08 02:03 PM |
# |
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How silly. Her positions on health care and the economy are more liberal than Obama |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#12 |
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Her healthplan is far from liberal |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#35 |
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Bullshit. If we want UNIVERSAL Health Care, EVERYONE has to participate. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-05-08 02:18 PM |
#53 |
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Count me in for Mr. Hope..I've got enough wage garnishments..no thanks Hilster |
NDambi |
Mar-05-08 02:20 PM |
#61 |
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Yes. Don't people understand Social Security? FDR did. Obama doesn't. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:22 PM |
#68 |
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That's funny. I had no idea my SS contributions were going to private companies. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 02:33 PM |
#85 |
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It would be an entitlement program. His wouldn't. His plan is weak on the industry. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:41 PM |
#94 |
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And hers would bind us to the industry forever and in perpetuity. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 09:42 PM |
#225 |
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Fuck that shit. You are not taking money out of my pocket for private insurance companies. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 02:30 PM |
#82 |
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When you clog our emergency rooms without insurance, you steal from my pocket ... |
Maribelle |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#149 |
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Oh here we go again with the demonizing of the uninsured. We're the new "Welfare Queens". |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 10:00 PM |
#228 |
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If you want your wages garnished for crappy insurance company healthcare |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#107 |
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If you don't want insurance, don't you even dare ever again clog our emergency rooms. |
Maribelle |
Mar-05-08 03:14 PM |
#155 |
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Few can afford to pay for her overpriced corporate healthplan |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 03:31 PM |
#176 |
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"biggest recipient in congress " |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:28 PM |
#77 |
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See my post below |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:46 PM |
#99 |
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That article is overblown ,No one is bought for $370000 |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:52 PM |
#111 |
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I don't know what planet you're from |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#128 |
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* Hillary leads Barack Obama on health care by 21 points nationally . |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 04:19 PM |
#197 |
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Hillary 2nd only to Rick Santorum |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:26 PM |
#73 |
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No they are not. They are both wussing out on what is really needed. |
Armstead |
Mar-05-08 06:25 PM |
#216 |
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Really? Since when is McCain pro-choice? |
question everything |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
# |
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I said TOO MUCH LIKE, not exactly the same. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#37 |
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Riiiight. "I want to stay in Iraq for 100 YEARS" ....yep, they're too much alike. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
# |
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See post #14 |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 02:16 PM |
#48 |
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Really close... |
polmaven |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#152 |
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Hillary... "We need permanent bases in Iraq to protect our vital national interests there" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:20 AM |
#246 |
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Oh, sure. |
Andromeda |
Mar-05-08 10:06 PM |
#230 |
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UNITY is the best case. McCain is Half-Fat-Liberal |
Ian_walker |
Mar-08-08 02:40 PM |
#258 |
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It is going to be interesting, that much we know. |
Beausoir |
Mar-05-08 01:59 PM |
#2 |
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Yes it is. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:03 PM |
#9 |
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But she can only win in a bloody convention- that's her biggest weakness |
Alhena |
Mar-05-08 02:00 PM |
#3 |
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2025 |
anamandujano |
Mar-05-08 02:02 PM |
#8 |
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Same thing for Obama |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#11 |
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you should have done a little math Obama needs only 46% of the |
grantcart |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#62 |
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Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 02:07 PM |
#18 |
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Well said. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:25 PM |
#167 |
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And Woodrow Wilson dragged us into WWI. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 10:59 AM |
#242 |
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Actually |
Invidious |
Mar-05-08 02:00 PM |
#4 |
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CO, VA, MN, WA, IA, WI...she has some major geography problems of her own |
BeyondGeography |
Mar-05-08 02:01 PM |
#5 |
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Oh trust me, I haven't watched TV since Texas was called. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:02 PM |
#7 |
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Not she isn't..... |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-05-08 02:14 PM |
#42 |
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Plus, McCain will hammer Clinton with her ease of throwing any |
Skwmom |
Mar-05-08 02:19 PM |
#56 |
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I haven't watched the MSM election coverage since Super Tuesday. |
goldcanyonaz |
Mar-05-08 02:19 PM |
#57 |
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Missouri too |
Upton |
Mar-05-08 02:40 PM |
#93 |
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You keep making all kinds of arguments for Hillary |
sandnsea |
Mar-05-08 02:03 PM |
#10 |
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I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm also realistic. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#23 |
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Winning over the Democrats in key states isn't relevant to winning in November |
Bucky |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#13 |
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He has lost his MO JO--- |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#22 |
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LOL Ive got his mojo and Im giving it to Hillary |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:35 PM |
#91 |
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ohmy gowd--you DO!!! ha ha |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 04:21 PM |
#198 |
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Keep your pessimistic manifestation to yourself. |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 02:06 PM |
#15 |
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I am not giving up - not in the least |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:10 PM |
#27 |
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"After how badly Obama got his asses whooped in Ohio and Florida" |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#40 |
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Obama didn't even campaign in Florida. |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 02:29 PM |
#80 |
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Hillary has just as much chance to carry the Southwest as Obama does. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:45 PM |
#97 |
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What abou the South? What about Colorado? |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 03:15 PM |
#157 |
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No, it's not a fact |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:31 PM |
#178 |
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are you seriously arguing that Hillary is a better candidate? |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 03:34 PM |
# |
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As of right now, Obama is the candidate who has a better chance to win |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:45 PM |
#188 |
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You act as if Hillary doesn't have any skeletons. |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 04:17 PM |
#196 |
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I knew you were from the dark side with all of their talking points., |
juajen |
Mar-05-08 06:01 PM |
#210 |
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It really doesn't help your side to always accuse everybody else of being Repukes |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 06:08 PM |
#212 |
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Clinton did not campaign in Florida or Michigan either. |
shaniqua6392 |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#203 |
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So you think Hillary Clinton has a better chance in OH and FL because she |
high density |
Mar-05-08 03:05 PM |
#141 |
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Agreed! |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#43 |
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Trust me... I still support Obama |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:48 PM |
#103 |
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If you believe that, then I suppose you should support her |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-05-08 02:58 PM |
#124 |
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CO+VA=22 elec. votes, OH+FL=47 elec college votes |
adapa |
Mar-05-08 02:06 PM |
#16 |
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So, the automatic conclusion is |
Obama_for_our_future |
Mar-05-08 02:18 PM |
#54 |
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yes, just posted also,....no one has won the GE w/o winning Ohio primary |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 02:06 PM |
#17 |
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Agree with you NJ but for other reasons |
Tropics_Dude83 |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#44 |
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That was in the back of my mind too |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:16 PM |
#50 |
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Let's put it this way |
Tropics_Dude83 |
Mar-05-08 02:19 PM |
#58 |
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You speak true, Tropics Dude. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:15 AM |
#244 |
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Wrong. Hillary can't win in the big cities, and she will lose to McCain in the rural areas. |
Dawgs |
Mar-05-08 02:08 PM |
#19 |
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That is not a foregone conclusion. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
# |
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suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure she can't. Like they'll vote for McCain first. |
Mezzo |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
# |
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The conservative rural areas of Ohio will certainly go for McCain. |
Dawgs |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#39 |
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It's very true |
zarath |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#64 |
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Let me Wrap My Brain around this... AAARGH! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:18 AM |
#245 |
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You don't have a fucking clue about Ohio. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#88 |
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Didn't they go for Bush in 2004? |
zarath |
Mar-05-08 03:16 PM |
#158 |
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How did they swing in 2006 though? And who did they swing for in 1992 and 1996? |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 03:30 PM |
#175 |
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If Obama is the VP, she will have no prob with any urban centers. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#201 |
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Since when is Virginia a swing state? they haven't voted for a Democrat since Truman IIRC. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:08 PM |
#20 |
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It's been trending blue for a while |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#34 |
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I still don't see how you can call it a swing state until it has swung once or twice. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:46 PM |
#100 |
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WIsconsin is a swing state |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:47 PM |
#101 |
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Since 1948? no. since 1992 (Bill Clinton btw). |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#114 |
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Since the demographics have changed n/t |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#36 |
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Since we started electing Democratic governers and senators |
dmesg |
Mar-05-08 02:45 PM |
#98 |
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I saw Mark Warner speak a couple times... |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:45 PM |
#208 |
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THINK about this. Obama gets Hillary's voters, but she doesn't |
RBInMaine |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#21 |
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B U L L S H I T ! ! |
Mezzo |
Mar-05-08 02:10 PM |
#25 |
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LAME |
printpolitico |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#45 |
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Racism is alive and well in Ohio, too, witness the primary exit polls |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:23 AM |
#247 |
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He does not get all |
leftynyc |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#65 |
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He also doesn't get the entire GOP machine... |
casus belli |
Mar-05-08 02:57 PM |
#123 |
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I'm not voting for him, so that blows your theory out of the water. I know MANY people |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-05-08 06:58 PM |
#222 |
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more threats from the 'tone changers.' nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:54 PM |
#234 |
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Why do you consider FL? |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#24 |
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BO campaigned in Florida. The delegates should be seated. |
Mezzo |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#28 |
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Get serious n/t |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:48 PM |
#102 |
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Even if Obama campaigned for 3-4 days in Florida, he still would have got demolished |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#46 |
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Two points |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:57 PM |
#122 |
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"Key Swing states" my behind. Ohio and Florida were red states in 2004 with corrupt elections |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:29 AM |
#248 |
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And OH governor is a Hillary supporter (nt) |
question everything |
Mar-05-08 02:10 PM |
#26 |
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Florida will NOT go blue; bank it. |
oviedodem |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#29 |
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I predict OH and FL go red even in an Obama landslide. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:33 AM |
#250 |
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Not to me. She just looks more and more like a Repub to progressives. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#30 |
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She won't win any southern state |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#31 |
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You got that right. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#33 |
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We North Carolinians know what we are talking about but yet |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#63 |
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Well this North Carolinian thinks she can win NC. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Mar-05-08 02:30 PM |
#81 |
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Yeah, if you live in one of those areas it always looks like we'll win. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#89 |
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We elected a Democratic legislature and elected Mike Easly in 2004. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Mar-05-08 10:54 PM |
#235 |
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Obama won't win any Southern states, either. The South will remain |
Dhalgren |
Mar-05-08 02:43 PM |
#95 |
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I think he's our best chance. In NC, |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#108 |
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I live in Alabama. He may win in NC (I would be surprised, but hey, |
Dhalgren |
Mar-05-08 02:56 PM |
#119 |
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She may not win Washington state |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:31 PM |
#83 |
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Uh, no Dem can win without Washington State |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:35 AM |
#251 |
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"While Hillary may be just as liberal as Kerry" Oh BS! And this: |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#32 |
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Hillary is not as liberal as Kerry? |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:18 PM |
#55 |
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Kerry investigated and exposed more govt corruption than any Dem lawmaker in modern history |
blm |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#104 |
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LOL |
karynnj |
Mar-05-08 02:22 PM |
#67 |
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Forget it...hilary is making a case |
zidzi |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#38 |
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Thankyou for being unbiased and objective. |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#47 |
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Why not just change your candidate and get it over with? |
WesDem |
Mar-05-08 02:16 PM |
#49 |
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Huh? I'm being realistic here. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:22 PM |
#66 |
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If Hillary is making a better case to you |
WesDem |
Mar-05-08 02:23 PM |
#69 |
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"I want to fucking win the White House." |
loindelrio |
Mar-05-08 02:27 PM |
#75 |
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Thank You For The Independent Thought And Well Put Reasoning. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Mar-05-08 02:17 PM |
#52 |
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The person with the MOST VOTES should be our nominee! |
RiverStone |
Mar-05-08 02:20 PM |
#59 |
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I'm not tossing in the white flag |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:24 PM |
#71 |
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Time to change your avatar |
RiverStone |
Mar-05-08 02:33 PM |
#84 |
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I agree with you. I think Obama should recognize this and work out a deal for VP |
jlake |
Mar-05-08 02:20 PM |
#60 |
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A huge portion of the Florida and OH voters are going to be so mad at the |
Skwmom |
Mar-05-08 02:23 PM |
#70 |
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you need a new crystal ball. |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#204 |
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In the final week of the 2004 election it came down to FL, PA, and OH |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 02:25 PM |
#72 |
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Exactly. That is the point of my argument. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:29 PM |
#79 |
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"I don't think you can deny her." |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:42 AM |
#252 |
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GE |
Beregond2 |
Mar-05-08 02:26 PM |
#74 |
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I think the problem is |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 02:28 PM |
#78 |
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You make very good points, and I don't disagree |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:35 PM |
#92 |
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The idea that Ohio |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 03:11 PM |
#148 |
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I Can't See Any Dem Winning OH or FL And Losing The Election |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#106 |
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We win one of these states and we have a great chance to win the general election |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#115 |
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I'm Not Here To Lobby For Anybody |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-05-08 03:05 PM |
#140 |
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Play with the link I posted. |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#138 |
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I disagree right off the bat |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#116 |
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I 'm basing my opinions |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 03:02 PM |
#134 |
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People Need To Do What They Think Is Best And Vote Their Conscience |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-05-08 02:33 PM |
#86 |
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you make a valid point, a non partisan point |
paulk |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#87 |
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All the Obama supporters (even me a few days back) have advocated a strategy that includes.. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:44 PM |
#96 |
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personally I think both Nevada and Colorado are a stretch |
paulk |
Mar-05-08 03:22 PM |
#164 |
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We were in that hole to begin with. Kerry's states plus ANY additional 2 states gives us 270. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 12:05 PM |
#253 |
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HINT! Limbaugh isn't asking his voters to ALSO vote for Hillary in November! |
calipendence |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#90 |
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Yes! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 12:10 PM |
#254 |
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Why are all the Obama supporters committing message board seppuku? |
Sir Jeffrey |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#105 |
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Add Pennsylvania to the list, too |
OzarkDem |
Mar-05-08 02:50 PM |
#109 |
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the person who gives us the best chance to win |
walldude |
Mar-05-08 02:52 PM |
#110 |
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It's too close that neither candidate has enough delegates to win outright |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:56 PM |
#120 |
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So basically you are saying |
walldude |
Mar-05-08 03:01 PM |
#131 |
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The popular vote difference is miniscule between the two. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:08 PM |
#146 |
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So? It was miniscule between Bush and Gore |
walldude |
Mar-05-08 03:16 PM |
#159 |
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Bullshit, Hillary won because Repubs are joining in the primary |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 02:53 PM |
#112 |
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Your point disproves his cross party appeal... one more reason to go for Hillary |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 02:55 PM |
#117 |
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Ummm no. Hillary's appeal to dittoheads is that she is the WEAKER candidate. |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:00 PM |
#130 |
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is that why she stomped him in the 2 states that actually matter... OH and FL? |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:03 PM |
#135 |
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States that actually matter? |
high density |
Mar-05-08 03:07 PM |
#144 |
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In a GE, 48 of the states are essentially decided... there are 2 Battlegrounds... FL and OH. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:17 PM |
#160 |
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Yeah, bring up FL... the state that nobody campaigned in |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:40 PM |
#185 |
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We shall see if FL gets a re-vote... looking more likely all the time. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:07 PM |
#191 |
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I'm not against them getting a revote as long as candidates have time to campaign |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 04:12 PM |
#194 |
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I think that is the only compromise that will save the party at this point |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:23 PM |
#200 |
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What do you mean? Strip away the state's delegates? |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#202 |
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Christ, Obamaphiles called us a bunch of retards when we brought that up about BO. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#129 |
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Its a fact Repubs would much rather run against Hillary... why do you think that is? |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:02 PM |
#133 |
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that has become less true as time goes on. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#139 |
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It is not a fact. It's a weak ass talking point. The only argument that can honestly be made |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#170 |
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Its not a talking point, its true and is supported by polls |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:33 PM |
#179 |
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I think Ohio made it pretty clear that Obama does not have a better chance in the GE than Hillary |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 03:38 PM |
#184 |
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Thus the phrase.. "and so goes the nation"... |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:43 PM |
#187 |
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I live in Ohio too... and listen to all the right wingers calling in on talk radio |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:46 PM |
#190 |
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Republicans crossed over to vote for the weaker Obama |
557188 |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#173 |
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Partner, you have an Obama emblem |
thevoiceofreason |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#113 |
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When have I been negative about him? |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:58 PM |
#125 |
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You're buying into the Hillary campaign talking points |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#136 |
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self-delete n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 03:32 PM |
#255 |
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This is what the Hillary people are hoping for that some Obama people will begin to panic |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 02:56 PM |
#118 |
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Listen....I realize Obama has won alot of states. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:01 PM |
#132 |
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So when are you going to officially switch? |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:13 PM |
#154 |
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Hillary can only win if the Super delegates overturn the will of the people. |
azmouse |
Mar-05-08 02:57 PM |
#121 |
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I find "the will" of caucus voters highly suspect |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 03:19 PM |
#162 |
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I went to the Texas caucus and saw rampant no-no's... it was a total mess. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:27 PM |
#169 |
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exactly; a tiny margin in this type of primary should not be allowed to tank the whole party in nov. |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:57 PM |
#236 |
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"We have caucus results in Iowa where candidates who did not meet the viability threshold cooperated |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 03:41 PM |
#256 |
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The main problem is Hillary's organization |
Capn Sunshine |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#126 |
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Congratulations! |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#127 |
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Thank you |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:07 PM |
#142 |
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Hillary will never win Ohio over McCain |
thewiseguy |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#137 |
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Ohio didn't really seem to think that Hillary had much to do with NAFTA in the primaries |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#150 |
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So Obama won't win the blue states |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:22 PM |
#165 |
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Fair enough |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:26 PM |
#168 |
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frankly I don't think that Obama is a lock to lose Ohio in a GE either. |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:34 PM |
#180 |
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Hell, he may win Ohio in the general. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:40 PM |
#186 |
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What world do you live in? |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 04:21 PM |
#199 |
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Why Ohio would vote for Clinton(s) -the architects of NAFTA |
depakid |
Mar-05-08 03:07 PM |
#143 |
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This argument is completely without merit, no matter how many |
Vinca |
Mar-05-08 03:08 PM |
#145 |
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Thank you for this statement loaded |
zidzi |
Mar-05-08 03:24 PM |
#166 |
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Obama has won more states, more delegates, and more of the popular vote... |
ALiberalSailor |
Mar-05-08 03:09 PM |
#147 |
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McCain will win Ohio if he goes against Clinton, and Florida is a loss for either candidate. |
Exilednight |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#151 |
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Biden at a Brokered Convention |
Steely_Dan |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#153 |
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America had it's chance! They don't deserve that Solon, that Cincinnatus -- Biden! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 04:00 PM |
#257 |
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And the RW will eat her for lunch in the General. -eom |
Justitia |
Mar-05-08 03:15 PM |
#156 |
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Wow, You Cave Easily |
otohara |
Mar-05-08 03:18 PM |
#161 |
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The "she has high negatives" meme is getting old.. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:20 PM |
#163 |
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Good Grief, everything the Hillary people say in this thread you're |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#172 |
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Sorry, I will still support Obama and I will still be critical of Hillary |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:35 PM |
#181 |
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Both Old AND Misleading... |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 03:29 PM |
#174 |
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Hahaha. How? By having a shitty strategy? |
BringBigDogBack |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#171 |
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Caving in to racists, idiots, and ignorant fools is not the way to go. |
Bread and Circus |
Mar-05-08 03:31 PM |
#177 |
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Knock me over with a feather. |
rug |
Mar-05-08 03:35 PM |
#182 |
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I Was Very Disappointed By Last Night's Results |
midora |
Mar-05-08 03:37 PM |
#183 |
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Democrats also need New Jersey |
Beacool |
Mar-05-08 03:46 PM |
#189 |
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No she's not...Obama with his |
zidzi |
Mar-05-08 04:40 PM |
#205 |
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Polls are showing Hillary is our strongest candidate in the general. |
Apollo11 |
Mar-05-08 04:43 PM |
#207 |
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Dream On |
midora |
Mar-05-08 04:47 PM |
#209 |
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Hate to say it, but Hillary is a complete embarassment to our party. Another Lieberman, only worse! |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Mar-05-08 06:06 PM |
#211 |
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IMO, neither Hillary nor Obama are likely to win Ohio and Florida over McCain. |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-05-08 06:19 PM |
#213 |
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Hah? How is OH red? It just elected Strickland, who is a democrat, |
lizzy |
Mar-05-08 06:21 PM |
#214 |
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Red states elect Democratic governors all the time. |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-05-08 06:28 PM |
#217 |
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Ohio is certainly not red |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 06:29 PM |
#218 |
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There are allot of people that havent even voted yet, if you... |
superkia |
Mar-05-08 06:23 PM |
#215 |
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I agree.... Al Gore, '08!! n/t |
krkaufman |
Mar-05-08 06:53 PM |
#220 |
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Agreed. |
elixir |
Mar-05-08 06:55 PM |
#221 |
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Well done. A refreshingly honest no-BS opening post. nt |
anamnua |
Mar-05-08 07:01 PM |
#224 |
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Either Clinton or Obama will win Ohio in the general. |
totodeinhere |
Mar-05-08 10:11 PM |
#231 |
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She's winning "key swing states" in a split democratic vote |
Political Heretic |
Mar-05-08 10:13 PM |
#232 |
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still makes her the better candidate there in nov. nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:59 PM |
#238 |
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but... but... Obama kicked Hillary's ass in Utah! nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:52 PM |
#233 |
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oh baloney |
Lord Helmet |
Mar-05-08 10:58 PM |
#237 |
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I call bullshit |
jgraz |
Mar-05-08 11:33 PM |
#239 |
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Yup! |
DemEtienne |
Mar-07-08 11:07 AM |
#243 |
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Yes - we should throw out the delegates and let Clinton crown herself Emperoress |
jpak |
Mar-07-08 11:30 AM |
#249 |