| -I hate to say it, but Hillary is making a better case for the nomination. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 01:58 PM |
#0 |
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The problem is Hillary is too much like McCain. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 01:59 PM |
#1 |
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Yeah, because McCain is going to fight for universal health care and bring home the troops. |
anamandujano |
Mar-05-08 02:01 PM |
#6 |
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Voted for the war before she voted against it |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#14 |
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Silly remark |
JoFerret |
Mar-05-08 04:12 PM |
#195 |
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I'm talking about how McCain will frame her. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 06:30 PM |
#219 |
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Dust off those ol' adages and throw them like frisbees. Congratulations. |
elixir |
Mar-07-08 10:12 AM |
#240 |
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She's not going to get that ridiculous health care plan passed |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#41 |
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Agreed. People should just stop factoring that in deciding whether to vote for her |
Unsane |
Mar-05-08 02:17 PM |
#51 |
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You don't have the right to presume to tell anyone what to factor into their vote. |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-05-08 04:10 PM |
#193 |
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Huh? Sure I do. |
Unsane |
Mar-05-08 04:43 PM |
#206 |
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There will be damned good progress |
JoFerret |
Mar-05-08 04:09 PM |
#192 |
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So every civilized country on the planet has a 'ridiculous health care plan'? |
Seeker30 |
Mar-05-08 09:50 PM |
#226 |
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Other countries have national health care. |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 09:59 PM |
#227 |
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Mandatory private health insurance is NOT universal health care. Get it through your head. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 02:28 PM |
#76 |
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Universal means everyone. A mandate requires everyone sounds like the same to me. |
elixir |
Mar-05-08 06:59 PM |
#223 |
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Wrong. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 10:04 PM |
#229 |
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Right. |
elixir |
Mar-07-08 10:14 AM |
#241 |
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How do you figure that? Both of our dems are |
Justyce |
Mar-05-08 02:03 PM |
# |
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How silly. Her positions on health care and the economy are more liberal than Obama |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#12 |
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Her healthplan is far from liberal |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#35 |
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Bullshit. If we want UNIVERSAL Health Care, EVERYONE has to participate. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-05-08 02:18 PM |
#53 |
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Count me in for Mr. Hope..I've got enough wage garnishments..no thanks Hilster |
NDambi |
Mar-05-08 02:20 PM |
#61 |
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Yes. Don't people understand Social Security? FDR did. Obama doesn't. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:22 PM |
#68 |
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That's funny. I had no idea my SS contributions were going to private companies. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 02:33 PM |
#85 |
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It would be an entitlement program. His wouldn't. His plan is weak on the industry. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:41 PM |
#94 |
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And hers would bind us to the industry forever and in perpetuity. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 09:42 PM |
#225 |
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Fuck that shit. You are not taking money out of my pocket for private insurance companies. |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 02:30 PM |
#82 |
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When you clog our emergency rooms without insurance, you steal from my pocket ... |
Maribelle |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#149 |
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Oh here we go again with the demonizing of the uninsured. We're the new "Welfare Queens". |
thecatburgler |
Mar-05-08 10:00 PM |
#228 |
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If you want your wages garnished for crappy insurance company healthcare |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#107 |
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If you don't want insurance, don't you even dare ever again clog our emergency rooms. |
Maribelle |
Mar-05-08 03:14 PM |
#155 |
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Few can afford to pay for her overpriced corporate healthplan |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 03:31 PM |
#176 |
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"biggest recipient in congress " |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:28 PM |
#77 |
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See my post below |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:46 PM |
#99 |
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That article is overblown ,No one is bought for $370000 |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:52 PM |
#111 |
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I don't know what planet you're from |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#128 |
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* Hillary leads Barack Obama on health care by 21 points nationally . |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 04:19 PM |
#197 |
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Hillary 2nd only to Rick Santorum |
nebula |
Mar-05-08 02:26 PM |
#73 |
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No they are not. They are both wussing out on what is really needed. |
Armstead |
Mar-05-08 06:25 PM |
#216 |
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Really? Since when is McCain pro-choice? |
question everything |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
# |
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I said TOO MUCH LIKE, not exactly the same. |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#37 |
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Riiiight. "I want to stay in Iraq for 100 YEARS" ....yep, they're too much alike. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
# |
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See post #14 |
anonymous171 |
Mar-05-08 02:16 PM |
#48 |
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Really close... |
polmaven |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#152 |
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Hillary... "We need permanent bases in Iraq to protect our vital national interests there" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:20 AM |
#246 |
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Oh, sure. |
Andromeda |
Mar-05-08 10:06 PM |
#230 |
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UNITY is the best case. McCain is Half-Fat-Liberal |
Ian_walker |
Mar-08-08 02:40 PM |
#258 |
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It is going to be interesting, that much we know. |
Beausoir |
Mar-05-08 01:59 PM |
#2 |
| -
Yes it is. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:03 PM |
#9 |
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But she can only win in a bloody convention- that's her biggest weakness |
Alhena |
Mar-05-08 02:00 PM |
#3 |
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2025 |
anamandujano |
Mar-05-08 02:02 PM |
#8 |
| -
Same thing for Obama |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#11 |
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you should have done a little math Obama needs only 46% of the |
grantcart |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#62 |
| -
Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 02:07 PM |
#18 |
| -
Well said. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:25 PM |
#167 |
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And Woodrow Wilson dragged us into WWI. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 10:59 AM |
#242 |
| -
Actually |
Invidious |
Mar-05-08 02:00 PM |
#4 |
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CO, VA, MN, WA, IA, WI...she has some major geography problems of her own |
BeyondGeography |
Mar-05-08 02:01 PM |
#5 |
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Oh trust me, I haven't watched TV since Texas was called. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:02 PM |
#7 |
| -
Not she isn't..... |
FrenchieCat |
Mar-05-08 02:14 PM |
#42 |
| -
Plus, McCain will hammer Clinton with her ease of throwing any |
Skwmom |
Mar-05-08 02:19 PM |
#56 |
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I haven't watched the MSM election coverage since Super Tuesday. |
goldcanyonaz |
Mar-05-08 02:19 PM |
#57 |
| -
Missouri too |
Upton |
Mar-05-08 02:40 PM |
#93 |
| -
You keep making all kinds of arguments for Hillary |
sandnsea |
Mar-05-08 02:03 PM |
#10 |
| -
I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm also realistic. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#23 |
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Winning over the Democrats in key states isn't relevant to winning in November |
Bucky |
Mar-05-08 02:04 PM |
#13 |
| -
He has lost his MO JO--- |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#22 |
| -
LOL Ive got his mojo and Im giving it to Hillary |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:35 PM |
#91 |
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ohmy gowd--you DO!!! ha ha |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 04:21 PM |
#198 |
| -
Keep your pessimistic manifestation to yourself. |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 02:06 PM |
#15 |
| -
I am not giving up - not in the least |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:10 PM |
#27 |
| -
"After how badly Obama got his asses whooped in Ohio and Florida" |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#40 |
| -
Obama didn't even campaign in Florida. |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 02:29 PM |
#80 |
| -
Hillary has just as much chance to carry the Southwest as Obama does. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:45 PM |
#97 |
| -
What abou the South? What about Colorado? |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 03:15 PM |
#157 |
| -
No, it's not a fact |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:31 PM |
#178 |
| -
are you seriously arguing that Hillary is a better candidate? |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 03:34 PM |
# |
| -
As of right now, Obama is the candidate who has a better chance to win |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:45 PM |
#188 |
| -
You act as if Hillary doesn't have any skeletons. |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 04:17 PM |
#196 |
| -
I knew you were from the dark side with all of their talking points., |
juajen |
Mar-05-08 06:01 PM |
#210 |
| -
It really doesn't help your side to always accuse everybody else of being Repukes |
JackORoses |
Mar-05-08 06:08 PM |
#212 |
| -
Clinton did not campaign in Florida or Michigan either. |
shaniqua6392 |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#203 |
| -
So you think Hillary Clinton has a better chance in OH and FL because she |
high density |
Mar-05-08 03:05 PM |
#141 |
| -
Agreed! |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#43 |
| -
Trust me... I still support Obama |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:48 PM |
#103 |
| -
If you believe that, then I suppose you should support her |
bicentennial_baby |
Mar-05-08 02:58 PM |
#124 |
| -
CO+VA=22 elec. votes, OH+FL=47 elec college votes |
adapa |
Mar-05-08 02:06 PM |
#16 |
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So, the automatic conclusion is |
Obama_for_our_future |
Mar-05-08 02:18 PM |
#54 |
| -
yes, just posted also,....no one has won the GE w/o winning Ohio primary |
amborin |
Mar-05-08 02:06 PM |
#17 |
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Agree with you NJ but for other reasons |
Tropics_Dude83 |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#44 |
| -
That was in the back of my mind too |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:16 PM |
#50 |
| -
Let's put it this way |
Tropics_Dude83 |
Mar-05-08 02:19 PM |
#58 |
| -
You speak true, Tropics Dude. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:15 AM |
#244 |
| -
Wrong. Hillary can't win in the big cities, and she will lose to McCain in the rural areas. |
Dawgs |
Mar-05-08 02:08 PM |
#19 |
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That is not a foregone conclusion. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
# |
| -
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure she can't. Like they'll vote for McCain first. |
Mezzo |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
# |
| -
The conservative rural areas of Ohio will certainly go for McCain. |
Dawgs |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#39 |
| -
It's very true |
zarath |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#64 |
| -
Let me Wrap My Brain around this... AAARGH! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:18 AM |
#245 |
| -
You don't have a fucking clue about Ohio. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#88 |
| -
Didn't they go for Bush in 2004? |
zarath |
Mar-05-08 03:16 PM |
#158 |
| -
How did they swing in 2006 though? And who did they swing for in 1992 and 1996? |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 03:30 PM |
#175 |
| -
If Obama is the VP, she will have no prob with any urban centers. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#201 |
| -
Since when is Virginia a swing state? they haven't voted for a Democrat since Truman IIRC. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:08 PM |
#20 |
| -
It's been trending blue for a while |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#34 |
| -
I still don't see how you can call it a swing state until it has swung once or twice. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:46 PM |
#100 |
| -
WIsconsin is a swing state |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:47 PM |
#101 |
| -
Since 1948? no. since 1992 (Bill Clinton btw). |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#114 |
| -
Since the demographics have changed n/t |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#36 |
| -
Since we started electing Democratic governers and senators |
dmesg |
Mar-05-08 02:45 PM |
#98 |
| -
I saw Mark Warner speak a couple times... |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:45 PM |
#208 |
| -
THINK about this. Obama gets Hillary's voters, but she doesn't |
RBInMaine |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#21 |
| -
B U L L S H I T ! ! |
Mezzo |
Mar-05-08 02:10 PM |
#25 |
| -
LAME |
printpolitico |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#45 |
| -
Racism is alive and well in Ohio, too, witness the primary exit polls |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:23 AM |
#247 |
| -
He does not get all |
leftynyc |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#65 |
| -
He also doesn't get the entire GOP machine... |
casus belli |
Mar-05-08 02:57 PM |
#123 |
| -
I'm not voting for him, so that blows your theory out of the water. I know MANY people |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-05-08 06:58 PM |
#222 |
| -
more threats from the 'tone changers.' nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:54 PM |
#234 |
| -
Why do you consider FL? |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:09 PM |
#24 |
| -
BO campaigned in Florida. The delegates should be seated. |
Mezzo |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#28 |
| -
Get serious n/t |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:48 PM |
#102 |
| -
Even if Obama campaigned for 3-4 days in Florida, he still would have got demolished |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#46 |
| -
Two points |
Inuca |
Mar-05-08 02:57 PM |
#122 |
| -
"Key Swing states" my behind. Ohio and Florida were red states in 2004 with corrupt elections |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:29 AM |
#248 |
| -
And OH governor is a Hillary supporter (nt) |
question everything |
Mar-05-08 02:10 PM |
#26 |
| -
Florida will NOT go blue; bank it. |
oviedodem |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#29 |
| -
I predict OH and FL go red even in an Obama landslide. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:33 AM |
#250 |
| -
Not to me. She just looks more and more like a Repub to progressives. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#30 |
| -
She won't win any southern state |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#31 |
| -
You got that right. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-05-08 02:12 PM |
#33 |
| -
We North Carolinians know what we are talking about but yet |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 02:21 PM |
#63 |
| -
Well this North Carolinian thinks she can win NC. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Mar-05-08 02:30 PM |
#81 |
| -
Yeah, if you live in one of those areas it always looks like we'll win. |
NC_Nurse |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#89 |
| -
We elected a Democratic legislature and elected Mike Easly in 2004. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Mar-05-08 10:54 PM |
#235 |
| -
Obama won't win any Southern states, either. The South will remain |
Dhalgren |
Mar-05-08 02:43 PM |
#95 |
| -
I think he's our best chance. In NC, |
mmonk |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#108 |
| -
I live in Alabama. He may win in NC (I would be surprised, but hey, |
Dhalgren |
Mar-05-08 02:56 PM |
#119 |
| -
She may not win Washington state |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:31 PM |
#83 |
| -
Uh, no Dem can win without Washington State |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:35 AM |
#251 |
| -
"While Hillary may be just as liberal as Kerry" Oh BS! And this: |
ProSense |
Mar-05-08 02:11 PM |
#32 |
| -
Hillary is not as liberal as Kerry? |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:18 PM |
#55 |
| -
Kerry investigated and exposed more govt corruption than any Dem lawmaker in modern history |
blm |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#104 |
| -
LOL |
karynnj |
Mar-05-08 02:22 PM |
#67 |
| -
Forget it...hilary is making a case |
zidzi |
Mar-05-08 02:13 PM |
#38 |
| -
Thankyou for being unbiased and objective. |
MojoMojoMojo |
Mar-05-08 02:15 PM |
#47 |
| -
Why not just change your candidate and get it over with? |
WesDem |
Mar-05-08 02:16 PM |
#49 |
| -
Huh? I'm being realistic here. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:22 PM |
#66 |
| -
If Hillary is making a better case to you |
WesDem |
Mar-05-08 02:23 PM |
#69 |
| -
"I want to fucking win the White House." |
loindelrio |
Mar-05-08 02:27 PM |
#75 |
| -
Thank You For The Independent Thought And Well Put Reasoning. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Mar-05-08 02:17 PM |
#52 |
| -
The person with the MOST VOTES should be our nominee! |
RiverStone |
Mar-05-08 02:20 PM |
#59 |
| -
I'm not tossing in the white flag |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:24 PM |
#71 |
| -
Time to change your avatar |
RiverStone |
Mar-05-08 02:33 PM |
#84 |
| -
I agree with you. I think Obama should recognize this and work out a deal for VP |
jlake |
Mar-05-08 02:20 PM |
#60 |
| -
A huge portion of the Florida and OH voters are going to be so mad at the |
Skwmom |
Mar-05-08 02:23 PM |
#70 |
| -
you need a new crystal ball. |
rodeodance |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#204 |
| -
In the final week of the 2004 election it came down to FL, PA, and OH |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 02:25 PM |
#72 |
| -
Exactly. That is the point of my argument. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:29 PM |
#79 |
| -
"I don't think you can deny her." |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 11:42 AM |
#252 |
| -
GE |
Beregond2 |
Mar-05-08 02:26 PM |
#74 |
| -
I think the problem is |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 02:28 PM |
#78 |
| -
You make very good points, and I don't disagree |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:35 PM |
#92 |
| -
The idea that Ohio |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 03:11 PM |
#148 |
| -
I Can't See Any Dem Winning OH or FL And Losing The Election |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#106 |
| -
We win one of these states and we have a great chance to win the general election |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#115 |
| -
I'm Not Here To Lobby For Anybody |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-05-08 03:05 PM |
#140 |
| -
Play with the link I posted. |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#138 |
| -
I disagree right off the bat |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#116 |
| -
I 'm basing my opinions |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 03:02 PM |
#134 |
| -
People Need To Do What They Think Is Best And Vote Their Conscience |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-05-08 02:33 PM |
#86 |
| -
you make a valid point, a non partisan point |
paulk |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#87 |
| -
All the Obama supporters (even me a few days back) have advocated a strategy that includes.. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:44 PM |
#96 |
| -
personally I think both Nevada and Colorado are a stretch |
paulk |
Mar-05-08 03:22 PM |
#164 |
| -
We were in that hole to begin with. Kerry's states plus ANY additional 2 states gives us 270. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 12:05 PM |
#253 |
| -
HINT! Limbaugh isn't asking his voters to ALSO vote for Hillary in November! |
calipendence |
Mar-05-08 02:34 PM |
#90 |
| -
Yes! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 12:10 PM |
#254 |
| -
Why are all the Obama supporters committing message board seppuku? |
Sir Jeffrey |
Mar-05-08 02:49 PM |
#105 |
| -
Add Pennsylvania to the list, too |
OzarkDem |
Mar-05-08 02:50 PM |
#109 |
| -
the person who gives us the best chance to win |
walldude |
Mar-05-08 02:52 PM |
#110 |
| -
It's too close that neither candidate has enough delegates to win outright |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:56 PM |
#120 |
| -
So basically you are saying |
walldude |
Mar-05-08 03:01 PM |
#131 |
| -
The popular vote difference is miniscule between the two. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:08 PM |
#146 |
| -
So? It was miniscule between Bush and Gore |
walldude |
Mar-05-08 03:16 PM |
#159 |
| -
Bullshit, Hillary won because Repubs are joining in the primary |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 02:53 PM |
#112 |
| -
Your point disproves his cross party appeal... one more reason to go for Hillary |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 02:55 PM |
#117 |
| -
Ummm no. Hillary's appeal to dittoheads is that she is the WEAKER candidate. |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:00 PM |
#130 |
| -
is that why she stomped him in the 2 states that actually matter... OH and FL? |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:03 PM |
#135 |
| -
States that actually matter? |
high density |
Mar-05-08 03:07 PM |
#144 |
| -
In a GE, 48 of the states are essentially decided... there are 2 Battlegrounds... FL and OH. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:17 PM |
#160 |
| -
Yeah, bring up FL... the state that nobody campaigned in |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:40 PM |
#185 |
| -
We shall see if FL gets a re-vote... looking more likely all the time. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:07 PM |
#191 |
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I'm not against them getting a revote as long as candidates have time to campaign |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 04:12 PM |
#194 |
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I think that is the only compromise that will save the party at this point |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 04:23 PM |
#200 |
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What do you mean? Strip away the state's delegates? |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 04:24 PM |
#202 |
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Christ, Obamaphiles called us a bunch of retards when we brought that up about BO. |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#129 |
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Its a fact Repubs would much rather run against Hillary... why do you think that is? |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:02 PM |
#133 |
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that has become less true as time goes on. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#139 |
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It is not a fact. It's a weak ass talking point. The only argument that can honestly be made |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#170 |
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Its not a talking point, its true and is supported by polls |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:33 PM |
#179 |
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I think Ohio made it pretty clear that Obama does not have a better chance in the GE than Hillary |
aquarius dawning |
Mar-05-08 03:38 PM |
#184 |
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Thus the phrase.. "and so goes the nation"... |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:43 PM |
#187 |
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I live in Ohio too... and listen to all the right wingers calling in on talk radio |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:46 PM |
#190 |
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Republicans crossed over to vote for the weaker Obama |
557188 |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#173 |
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Partner, you have an Obama emblem |
thevoiceofreason |
Mar-05-08 02:54 PM |
#113 |
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When have I been negative about him? |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 02:58 PM |
#125 |
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You're buying into the Hillary campaign talking points |
galadrium |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#136 |
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self-delete n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 03:32 PM |
#255 |
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This is what the Hillary people are hoping for that some Obama people will begin to panic |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 02:56 PM |
#118 |
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Listen....I realize Obama has won alot of states. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:01 PM |
#132 |
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So when are you going to officially switch? |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:13 PM |
#154 |
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Hillary can only win if the Super delegates overturn the will of the people. |
azmouse |
Mar-05-08 02:57 PM |
#121 |
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I find "the will" of caucus voters highly suspect |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 03:19 PM |
#162 |
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I went to the Texas caucus and saw rampant no-no's... it was a total mess. |
Texas Hill Country |
Mar-05-08 03:27 PM |
#169 |
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exactly; a tiny margin in this type of primary should not be allowed to tank the whole party in nov. |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:57 PM |
#236 |
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"We have caucus results in Iowa where candidates who did not meet the viability threshold cooperated |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 03:41 PM |
#256 |
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The main problem is Hillary's organization |
Capn Sunshine |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#126 |
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Congratulations! |
Auntie Bush |
Mar-05-08 02:59 PM |
#127 |
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Thank you |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:07 PM |
#142 |
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Hillary will never win Ohio over McCain |
thewiseguy |
Mar-05-08 03:04 PM |
#137 |
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Ohio didn't really seem to think that Hillary had much to do with NAFTA in the primaries |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#150 |
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So Obama won't win the blue states |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:22 PM |
#165 |
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Fair enough |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:26 PM |
#168 |
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frankly I don't think that Obama is a lock to lose Ohio in a GE either. |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:34 PM |
#180 |
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Hell, he may win Ohio in the general. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:40 PM |
#186 |
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What world do you live in? |
woolldog |
Mar-05-08 04:21 PM |
#199 |
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Why Ohio would vote for Clinton(s) -the architects of NAFTA |
depakid |
Mar-05-08 03:07 PM |
#143 |
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This argument is completely without merit, no matter how many |
Vinca |
Mar-05-08 03:08 PM |
#145 |
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Thank you for this statement loaded |
zidzi |
Mar-05-08 03:24 PM |
#166 |
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Obama has won more states, more delegates, and more of the popular vote... |
ALiberalSailor |
Mar-05-08 03:09 PM |
#147 |
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McCain will win Ohio if he goes against Clinton, and Florida is a loss for either candidate. |
Exilednight |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#151 |
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Biden at a Brokered Convention |
Steely_Dan |
Mar-05-08 03:12 PM |
#153 |
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America had it's chance! They don't deserve that Solon, that Cincinnatus -- Biden! |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-07-08 04:00 PM |
#257 |
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And the RW will eat her for lunch in the General. -eom |
Justitia |
Mar-05-08 03:15 PM |
#156 |
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Wow, You Cave Easily |
otohara |
Mar-05-08 03:18 PM |
#161 |
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The "she has high negatives" meme is getting old.. |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:20 PM |
#163 |
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Good Grief, everything the Hillary people say in this thread you're |
book_worm |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#172 |
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Sorry, I will still support Obama and I will still be critical of Hillary |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 03:35 PM |
#181 |
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Both Old AND Misleading... |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-05-08 03:29 PM |
#174 |
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Hahaha. How? By having a shitty strategy? |
BringBigDogBack |
Mar-05-08 03:28 PM |
#171 |
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Caving in to racists, idiots, and ignorant fools is not the way to go. |
Bread and Circus |
Mar-05-08 03:31 PM |
#177 |
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Knock me over with a feather. |
rug |
Mar-05-08 03:35 PM |
#182 |
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I Was Very Disappointed By Last Night's Results |
midora |
Mar-05-08 03:37 PM |
#183 |
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Democrats also need New Jersey |
Beacool |
Mar-05-08 03:46 PM |
#189 |
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No she's not...Obama with his |
zidzi |
Mar-05-08 04:40 PM |
#205 |
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Polls are showing Hillary is our strongest candidate in the general. |
Apollo11 |
Mar-05-08 04:43 PM |
#207 |
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Dream On |
midora |
Mar-05-08 04:47 PM |
#209 |
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Hate to say it, but Hillary is a complete embarassment to our party. Another Lieberman, only worse! |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Mar-05-08 06:06 PM |
#211 |
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IMO, neither Hillary nor Obama are likely to win Ohio and Florida over McCain. |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-05-08 06:19 PM |
#213 |
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Hah? How is OH red? It just elected Strickland, who is a democrat, |
lizzy |
Mar-05-08 06:21 PM |
#214 |
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Red states elect Democratic governors all the time. |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-05-08 06:28 PM |
#217 |
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Ohio is certainly not red |
NJSecularist |
Mar-05-08 06:29 PM |
#218 |
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There are allot of people that havent even voted yet, if you... |
superkia |
Mar-05-08 06:23 PM |
#215 |
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I agree.... Al Gore, '08!! n/t |
krkaufman |
Mar-05-08 06:53 PM |
#220 |
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Agreed. |
elixir |
Mar-05-08 06:55 PM |
#221 |
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Well done. A refreshingly honest no-BS opening post. nt |
anamnua |
Mar-05-08 07:01 PM |
#224 |
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Either Clinton or Obama will win Ohio in the general. |
totodeinhere |
Mar-05-08 10:11 PM |
#231 |
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She's winning "key swing states" in a split democratic vote |
Political Heretic |
Mar-05-08 10:13 PM |
#232 |
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still makes her the better candidate there in nov. nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:59 PM |
#238 |
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but... but... Obama kicked Hillary's ass in Utah! nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-05-08 10:52 PM |
#233 |
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oh baloney |
Lord Helmet |
Mar-05-08 10:58 PM |
#237 |
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I call bullshit |
jgraz |
Mar-05-08 11:33 PM |
#239 |
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Yup! |
DemEtienne |
Mar-07-08 11:07 AM |
#243 |
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Yes - we should throw out the delegates and let Clinton crown herself Emperoress |
jpak |
Mar-07-08 11:30 AM |
#249 |
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