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3. But she can only win in a bloody convention- that's her biggest weakness
Obama has a lead now, so he can offer the party a nomination scenario which doesn't involve a bloody convention- the superdelegates can rally around him now.
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  -I hate to say it, but Hillary is making a better case for the nomination. NJSecularist  Mar-05-08 01:58 PM   #0 
  - The problem is Hillary is too much like McCain.  anonymous171   Mar-05-08 01:59 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, because McCain is going to fight for universal health care and bring home the troops.  anamandujano   Mar-05-08 02:01 PM   #6 
  - Voted for the war before she voted against it  anonymous171   Mar-05-08 02:04 PM   #14 
  - Silly remark  JoFerret   Mar-05-08 04:12 PM   #195 
  - I'm talking about how McCain will frame her.  anonymous171   Mar-05-08 06:30 PM   #219 
  - Dust off those ol' adages and throw them like frisbees. Congratulations.  elixir   Mar-07-08 10:12 AM   #240 
  - She's not going to get that ridiculous health care plan passed  woolldog   Mar-05-08 02:13 PM   #41 
  - Agreed. People should just stop factoring that in deciding whether to vote for her  Unsane   Mar-05-08 02:17 PM   #51 
  - You don't have the right to presume to tell anyone what to factor into their vote.  Hoof Hearted   Mar-05-08 04:10 PM   #193 
     - Huh? Sure I do.  Unsane   Mar-05-08 04:43 PM   #206 
  - There will be damned good progress  JoFerret   Mar-05-08 04:09 PM   #192 
  - So every civilized country on the planet has a 'ridiculous health care plan'?  Seeker30   Mar-05-08 09:50 PM   #226 
     - Other countries have national health care.  woolldog   Mar-05-08 09:59 PM   #227 
  - Mandatory private health insurance is NOT universal health care. Get it through your head.  thecatburgler   Mar-05-08 02:28 PM   #76 
     - Universal means everyone. A mandate requires everyone sounds like the same to me.  elixir   Mar-05-08 06:59 PM   #223 
        - Wrong.  thecatburgler   Mar-05-08 10:04 PM   #229 
           - Right.  elixir   Mar-07-08 10:14 AM   #241 
  - How do you figure that? Both of our dems are  Justyce   Mar-05-08 02:03 PM   # 
  - How silly. Her positions on health care and the economy are more liberal than Obama  LulaMay   Mar-05-08 02:04 PM   #12 
  - Her healthplan is far from liberal  nebula   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   #35 
  - Bullshit. If we want UNIVERSAL Health Care, EVERYONE has to participate.  in_cog_ni_to   Mar-05-08 02:18 PM   #53 
  - Count me in for Mr. Hope..I've got enough wage garnishments..no thanks Hilster  NDambi   Mar-05-08 02:20 PM   #61 
  - Yes. Don't people understand Social Security? FDR did. Obama doesn't.  LulaMay   Mar-05-08 02:22 PM   #68 
  - That's funny. I had no idea my SS contributions were going to private companies.  thecatburgler   Mar-05-08 02:33 PM   #85 
     - It would be an entitlement program. His wouldn't. His plan is weak on the industry.  LulaMay   Mar-05-08 02:41 PM   #94 
        - And hers would bind us to the industry forever and in perpetuity.  thecatburgler   Mar-05-08 09:42 PM   #225 
  - Fuck that shit. You are not taking money out of my pocket for private insurance companies.  thecatburgler   Mar-05-08 02:30 PM   #82 
  - When you clog our emergency rooms without insurance, you steal from my pocket ...  Maribelle   Mar-05-08 03:12 PM   #149 
     - Oh here we go again with the demonizing of the uninsured. We're the new "Welfare Queens".  thecatburgler   Mar-05-08 10:00 PM   #228 
  - If you want your wages garnished for crappy insurance company healthcare  nebula   Mar-05-08 02:49 PM   #107 
     - If you don't want insurance, don't you even dare ever again clog our emergency rooms.  Maribelle   Mar-05-08 03:14 PM   #155 
        - Few can afford to pay for her overpriced corporate healthplan  nebula   Mar-05-08 03:31 PM   #176 
  - "biggest recipient in congress "  MojoMojoMojo   Mar-05-08 02:28 PM   #77 
  - See my post below  nebula   Mar-05-08 02:46 PM   #99 
     - That article is overblown ,No one is bought for $370000  MojoMojoMojo   Mar-05-08 02:52 PM   #111 
        - I don't know what planet you're from  nebula   Mar-05-08 02:59 PM   #128 
  - * Hillary leads Barack Obama on health care by 21 points nationally .  rodeodance   Mar-05-08 04:19 PM   #197 
  - Hillary 2nd only to Rick Santorum  nebula   Mar-05-08 02:26 PM   #73 
  - No they are not. They are both wussing out on what is really needed.  Armstead   Mar-05-08 06:25 PM   #216 
  - Really? Since when is McCain pro-choice?  question everything   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   # 
  - I said TOO MUCH LIKE, not exactly the same.  anonymous171   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   #37 
  - Riiiight. "I want to stay in Iraq for 100 YEARS" ....yep, they're too much alike.  in_cog_ni_to   Mar-05-08 02:15 PM   # 
  - See post #14  anonymous171   Mar-05-08 02:16 PM   #48 
  - Really close...  polmaven   Mar-05-08 03:12 PM   #152 
  - Hillary... "We need permanent bases in Iraq to protect our vital national interests there"  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:20 AM   #246 
  - Oh, sure.  Andromeda   Mar-05-08 10:06 PM   #230 
  - UNITY is the best case. McCain is Half-Fat-Liberal  Ian_walker   Mar-08-08 02:40 PM   #258 
  - It is going to be interesting, that much we know.  Beausoir   Mar-05-08 01:59 PM   #2 
  - Yes it is.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:03 PM   #9 
  - But she can only win in a bloody convention- that's her biggest weakness  Alhena   Mar-05-08 02:00 PM   #3 
  - 2025  anamandujano   Mar-05-08 02:02 PM   #8 
  - Same thing for Obama  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:04 PM   #11 
  - you should have done a little math Obama needs only 46% of the  grantcart   Mar-05-08 02:21 PM   #62 
  - Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates  rodeodance   Mar-05-08 02:07 PM   #18 
     - Well said.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 03:25 PM   #167 
     - And Woodrow Wilson dragged us into WWI.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 10:59 AM   #242 
  - Actually  Invidious   Mar-05-08 02:00 PM   #4 
  - CO, VA, MN, WA, IA, WI...she has some major geography problems of her own  BeyondGeography   Mar-05-08 02:01 PM   #5 
  - Oh trust me, I haven't watched TV since Texas was called.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:02 PM   #7 
  - Not she isn't.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-05-08 02:14 PM   #42 
  - Plus, McCain will hammer Clinton with her ease of throwing any  Skwmom   Mar-05-08 02:19 PM   #56 
  - I haven't watched the MSM election coverage since Super Tuesday.  goldcanyonaz   Mar-05-08 02:19 PM   #57 
  - Missouri too  Upton   Mar-05-08 02:40 PM   #93 
  - You keep making all kinds of arguments for Hillary  sandnsea   Mar-05-08 02:03 PM   #10 
  - I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm also realistic.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:09 PM   #23 
  - Winning over the Democrats in key states isn't relevant to winning in November  Bucky   Mar-05-08 02:04 PM   #13 
  - He has lost his MO JO---  rodeodance   Mar-05-08 02:09 PM   #22 
     - LOL Ive got his mojo and Im giving it to Hillary  MojoMojoMojo   Mar-05-08 02:35 PM   #91 
        - ohmy gowd--you DO!!! ha ha  rodeodance   Mar-05-08 04:21 PM   #198 
  - Keep your pessimistic manifestation to yourself.  JackORoses   Mar-05-08 02:06 PM   #15 
  - I am not giving up - not in the least  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:10 PM   #27 
  - "After how badly Obama got his asses whooped in Ohio and Florida"  ProSense   Mar-05-08 02:13 PM   #40 
  - Obama didn't even campaign in Florida.  JackORoses   Mar-05-08 02:29 PM   #80 
  - Hillary has just as much chance to carry the Southwest as Obama does.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:45 PM   #97 
  - What abou the South? What about Colorado?  JackORoses   Mar-05-08 03:15 PM   #157 
     - No, it's not a fact  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:31 PM   #178 
        - are you seriously arguing that Hillary is a better candidate?  JackORoses   Mar-05-08 03:34 PM   # 
           - As of right now, Obama is the candidate who has a better chance to win  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:45 PM   #188 
              - You act as if Hillary doesn't have any skeletons.  JackORoses   Mar-05-08 04:17 PM   #196 
                 - I knew you were from the dark side with all of their talking points.,  juajen   Mar-05-08 06:01 PM   #210 
                    - It really doesn't help your side to always accuse everybody else of being Repukes  JackORoses   Mar-05-08 06:08 PM   #212 
  - Clinton did not campaign in Florida or Michigan either.  shaniqua6392   Mar-05-08 04:24 PM   #203 
  - So you think Hillary Clinton has a better chance in OH and FL because she  high density   Mar-05-08 03:05 PM   #141 
  - Agreed!  bicentennial_baby   Mar-05-08 02:15 PM   #43 
     - Trust me... I still support Obama  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:48 PM   #103 
        - If you believe that, then I suppose you should support her  bicentennial_baby   Mar-05-08 02:58 PM   #124 
  - CO+VA=22 elec. votes, OH+FL=47 elec college votes  adapa   Mar-05-08 02:06 PM   #16 
  - So, the automatic conclusion is  Obama_for_our_future   Mar-05-08 02:18 PM   #54 
  - yes, just posted also,....no one has won the GE w/o winning Ohio primary  amborin   Mar-05-08 02:06 PM   #17 
  - Agree with you NJ but for other reasons  Tropics_Dude83   Mar-05-08 02:15 PM   #44 
     - That was in the back of my mind too  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:16 PM   #50 
        - Let's put it this way  Tropics_Dude83   Mar-05-08 02:19 PM   #58 
           - You speak true, Tropics Dude.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:15 AM   #244 
  - Wrong. Hillary can't win in the big cities, and she will lose to McCain in the rural areas.  Dawgs   Mar-05-08 02:08 PM   #19 
  - That is not a foregone conclusion.  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 02:09 PM   # 
  - suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure she can't. Like they'll vote for McCain first.  Mezzo   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   # 
  - The conservative rural areas of Ohio will certainly go for McCain.  Dawgs   Mar-05-08 02:13 PM   #39 
     - It's very true  zarath   Mar-05-08 02:21 PM   #64 
     - Let me Wrap My Brain around this... AAARGH!  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:18 AM   #245 
     - You don't have a fucking clue about Ohio.  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 02:34 PM   #88 
        - Didn't they go for Bush in 2004?  zarath   Mar-05-08 03:16 PM   #158 
           - How did they swing in 2006 though? And who did they swing for in 1992 and 1996?  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 03:30 PM   #175 
  - If Obama is the VP, she will have no prob with any urban centers.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 04:24 PM   #201 
  - Since when is Virginia a swing state? they haven't voted for a Democrat since Truman IIRC.  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 02:08 PM   #20 
  - It's been trending blue for a while  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   #34 
  - I still don't see how you can call it a swing state until it has swung once or twice.  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 02:46 PM   #100 
     - WIsconsin is a swing state  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:47 PM   #101 
        - Since 1948? no. since 1992 (Bill Clinton btw).  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 02:54 PM   #114 
  - Since the demographics have changed n/t  Inuca   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   #36 
  - Since we started electing Democratic governers and senators  dmesg   Mar-05-08 02:45 PM   #98 
     - I saw Mark Warner speak a couple times...  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 04:45 PM   #208 
  - THINK about this. Obama gets Hillary's voters, but she doesn't  RBInMaine   Mar-05-08 02:09 PM   #21 
  - B U L L S H I T ! !  Mezzo   Mar-05-08 02:10 PM   #25 
  - LAME  printpolitico   Mar-05-08 02:15 PM   #45 
  - Racism is alive and well in Ohio, too, witness the primary exit polls  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:23 AM   #247 
  - He does not get all  leftynyc   Mar-05-08 02:21 PM   #65 
  - He also doesn't get the entire GOP machine...  casus belli   Mar-05-08 02:57 PM   #123 
  - I'm not voting for him, so that blows your theory out of the water. I know MANY people  in_cog_ni_to   Mar-05-08 06:58 PM   #222 
  - more threats from the 'tone changers.' nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 10:54 PM   #234 
  - Why do you consider FL?  Inuca   Mar-05-08 02:09 PM   #24 
  - BO campaigned in Florida. The delegates should be seated.  Mezzo   Mar-05-08 02:11 PM   #28 
  - Get serious n/t  Inuca   Mar-05-08 02:48 PM   #102 
  - Even if Obama campaigned for 3-4 days in Florida, he still would have got demolished  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:15 PM   #46 
     - Two points  Inuca   Mar-05-08 02:57 PM   #122 
     - "Key Swing states" my behind. Ohio and Florida were red states in 2004 with corrupt elections  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:29 AM   #248 
  - And OH governor is a Hillary supporter (nt)  question everything   Mar-05-08 02:10 PM   #26 
  - Florida will NOT go blue; bank it.  oviedodem   Mar-05-08 02:11 PM   #29 
  - I predict OH and FL go red even in an Obama landslide.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:33 AM   #250 
  - Not to me. She just looks more and more like a Repub to progressives.  NC_Nurse   Mar-05-08 02:11 PM   #30 
  - She won't win any southern state  mmonk   Mar-05-08 02:11 PM   #31 
  - You got that right.  NC_Nurse   Mar-05-08 02:12 PM   #33 
  - We North Carolinians know what we are talking about but yet  mmonk   Mar-05-08 02:21 PM   #63 
     - Well this North Carolinian thinks she can win NC.  SIMPLYB1980   Mar-05-08 02:30 PM   #81 
     - Yeah, if you live in one of those areas it always looks like we'll win.  NC_Nurse   Mar-05-08 02:34 PM   #89 
        - We elected a Democratic legislature and elected Mike Easly in 2004.  SIMPLYB1980   Mar-05-08 10:54 PM   #235 
     - Obama won't win any Southern states, either. The South will remain  Dhalgren   Mar-05-08 02:43 PM   #95 
        - I think he's our best chance. In NC,  mmonk   Mar-05-08 02:49 PM   #108 
           - I live in Alabama. He may win in NC (I would be surprised, but hey,  Dhalgren   Mar-05-08 02:56 PM   #119 
  - She may not win Washington state  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:31 PM   #83 
     - Uh, no Dem can win without Washington State  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:35 AM   #251 
  - "While Hillary may be just as liberal as Kerry" Oh BS! And this:  ProSense   Mar-05-08 02:11 PM   #32 
  - Hillary is not as liberal as Kerry?  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:18 PM   #55 
  - Kerry investigated and exposed more govt corruption than any Dem lawmaker in modern history  blm   Mar-05-08 02:49 PM   #104 
  - LOL  karynnj   Mar-05-08 02:22 PM   #67 
  - Forget it...hilary is making a case  zidzi   Mar-05-08 02:13 PM   #38 
  - Thankyou for being unbiased and objective.  MojoMojoMojo   Mar-05-08 02:15 PM   #47 
  - Why not just change your candidate and get it over with?  WesDem   Mar-05-08 02:16 PM   #49 
  - Huh? I'm being realistic here.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:22 PM   #66 
     - If Hillary is making a better case to you  WesDem   Mar-05-08 02:23 PM   #69 
     - "I want to fucking win the White House."  loindelrio   Mar-05-08 02:27 PM   #75 
  - Thank You For The Independent Thought And Well Put Reasoning.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-05-08 02:17 PM   #52 
  - The person with the MOST VOTES should be our nominee!  RiverStone   Mar-05-08 02:20 PM   #59 
  - I'm not tossing in the white flag  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:24 PM   #71 
     - Time to change your avatar  RiverStone   Mar-05-08 02:33 PM   #84 
  - I agree with you. I think Obama should recognize this and work out a deal for VP  jlake   Mar-05-08 02:20 PM   #60 
  - A huge portion of the Florida and OH voters are going to be so mad at the  Skwmom   Mar-05-08 02:23 PM   #70 
  - you need a new crystal ball.  rodeodance   Mar-05-08 04:24 PM   #204 
  - In the final week of the 2004 election it came down to FL, PA, and OH  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-05-08 02:25 PM   #72 
  - Exactly. That is the point of my argument.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:29 PM   #79 
     - "I don't think you can deny her."  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 11:42 AM   #252 
  - GE  Beregond2   Mar-05-08 02:26 PM   #74 
  - I think the problem is  woolldog   Mar-05-08 02:28 PM   #78 
  - You make very good points, and I don't disagree  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:35 PM   #92 
  - The idea that Ohio  woolldog   Mar-05-08 03:11 PM   #148 
  - I Can't See Any Dem Winning OH or FL And Losing The Election  DemocratSinceBirth   Mar-05-08 02:49 PM   #106 
  - We win one of these states and we have a great chance to win the general election  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:54 PM   #115 
  - I'm Not Here To Lobby For Anybody  DemocratSinceBirth   Mar-05-08 03:05 PM   #140 
  - Play with the link I posted.  woolldog   Mar-05-08 03:04 PM   #138 
  - I disagree right off the bat  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-05-08 02:54 PM   #116 
     - I 'm basing my opinions  woolldog   Mar-05-08 03:02 PM   #134 
  - People Need To Do What They Think Is Best And Vote Their Conscience  DemocratSinceBirth   Mar-05-08 02:33 PM   #86 
  - you make a valid point, a non partisan point  paulk   Mar-05-08 02:34 PM   #87 
  - All the Obama supporters (even me a few days back) have advocated a strategy that includes..  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:44 PM   #96 
     - personally I think both Nevada and Colorado are a stretch  paulk   Mar-05-08 03:22 PM   #164 
     - We were in that hole to begin with. Kerry's states plus ANY additional 2 states gives us 270.  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 12:05 PM   #253 
  - HINT! Limbaugh isn't asking his voters to ALSO vote for Hillary in November!  calipendence   Mar-05-08 02:34 PM   #90 
  - Yes!  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 12:10 PM   #254 
  - Why are all the Obama supporters committing message board seppuku?  Sir Jeffrey   Mar-05-08 02:49 PM   #105 
  - Add Pennsylvania to the list, too  OzarkDem   Mar-05-08 02:50 PM   #109 
  - the person who gives us the best chance to win  walldude   Mar-05-08 02:52 PM   #110 
  - It's too close that neither candidate has enough delegates to win outright  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:56 PM   #120 
     - So basically you are saying  walldude   Mar-05-08 03:01 PM   #131 
        - The popular vote difference is miniscule between the two.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:08 PM   #146 
           - So? It was miniscule between Bush and Gore  walldude   Mar-05-08 03:16 PM   #159 
  - Bullshit, Hillary won because Repubs are joining in the primary  galadrium   Mar-05-08 02:53 PM   #112 
  - Your point disproves his cross party appeal... one more reason to go for Hillary  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 02:55 PM   #117 
  - Ummm no. Hillary's appeal to dittoheads is that she is the WEAKER candidate.  galadrium   Mar-05-08 03:00 PM   #130 
     - is that why she stomped him in the 2 states that actually matter... OH and FL?  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 03:03 PM   #135 
        - States that actually matter?  high density   Mar-05-08 03:07 PM   #144 
        - In a GE, 48 of the states are essentially decided... there are 2 Battlegrounds... FL and OH.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 03:17 PM   #160 
        - Yeah, bring up FL... the state that nobody campaigned in  galadrium   Mar-05-08 03:40 PM   #185 
           - We shall see if FL gets a re-vote... looking more likely all the time.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 04:07 PM   #191 
              - I'm not against them getting a revote as long as candidates have time to campaign  galadrium   Mar-05-08 04:12 PM   #194 
                 - I think that is the only compromise that will save the party at this point  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 04:23 PM   #200 
                    - What do you mean? Strip away the state's delegates?  galadrium   Mar-05-08 04:24 PM   #202 
  - Christ, Obamaphiles called us a bunch of retards when we brought that up about BO.  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 02:59 PM   #129 
  - Its a fact Repubs would much rather run against Hillary... why do you think that is?  galadrium   Mar-05-08 03:02 PM   #133 
     - that has become less true as time goes on.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 03:04 PM   #139 
     - It is not a fact. It's a weak ass talking point. The only argument that can honestly be made  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 03:28 PM   #170 
        - Its not a talking point, its true and is supported by polls  galadrium   Mar-05-08 03:33 PM   #179 
           - I think Ohio made it pretty clear that Obama does not have a better chance in the GE than Hillary  aquarius dawning   Mar-05-08 03:38 PM   #184 
              - Thus the phrase.. "and so goes the nation"...  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 03:43 PM   #187 
              - I live in Ohio too... and listen to all the right wingers calling in on talk radio  galadrium   Mar-05-08 03:46 PM   #190 
  - Republicans crossed over to vote for the weaker Obama  557188   Mar-05-08 03:28 PM   #173 
  - Partner, you have an Obama emblem  thevoiceofreason   Mar-05-08 02:54 PM   #113 
  - When have I been negative about him?  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 02:58 PM   #125 
     - You're buying into the Hillary campaign talking points  galadrium   Mar-05-08 03:04 PM   #136 
     - self-delete n/t  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 03:32 PM   #255 
  - This is what the Hillary people are hoping for that some Obama people will begin to panic  book_worm   Mar-05-08 02:56 PM   #118 
  - Listen....I realize Obama has won alot of states.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:01 PM   #132 
     - So when are you going to officially switch?  book_worm   Mar-05-08 03:13 PM   #154 
  - Hillary can only win if the Super delegates overturn the will of the people.  azmouse   Mar-05-08 02:57 PM   #121 
  - I find "the will" of caucus voters highly suspect  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-05-08 03:19 PM   #162 
     - I went to the Texas caucus and saw rampant no-no's... it was a total mess.  Texas Hill Country   Mar-05-08 03:27 PM   #169 
     - exactly; a tiny margin in this type of primary should not be allowed to tank the whole party in nov.  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 10:57 PM   #236 
     - "We have caucus results in Iowa where candidates who did not meet the viability threshold cooperated  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 03:41 PM   #256 
  - The main problem is Hillary's organization  Capn Sunshine   Mar-05-08 02:59 PM   #126 
  - Congratulations!  Auntie Bush   Mar-05-08 02:59 PM   #127 
  - Thank you  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:07 PM   #142 
  - Hillary will never win Ohio over McCain  thewiseguy   Mar-05-08 03:04 PM   #137 
  - Ohio didn't really seem to think that Hillary had much to do with NAFTA in the primaries  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:12 PM   #150 
     - So Obama won't win the blue states  book_worm   Mar-05-08 03:22 PM   #165 
        - Fair enough  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:26 PM   #168 
           - frankly I don't think that Obama is a lock to lose Ohio in a GE either.  book_worm   Mar-05-08 03:34 PM   #180 
           - Hell, he may win Ohio in the general.  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:40 PM   #186 
           - What world do you live in?  woolldog   Mar-05-08 04:21 PM   #199 
  - Why Ohio would vote for Clinton(s) -the architects of NAFTA  depakid   Mar-05-08 03:07 PM   #143 
  - This argument is completely without merit, no matter how many  Vinca   Mar-05-08 03:08 PM   #145 
  - Thank you for this statement loaded  zidzi   Mar-05-08 03:24 PM   #166 
  - Obama has won more states, more delegates, and more of the popular vote...  ALiberalSailor   Mar-05-08 03:09 PM   #147 
  - McCain will win Ohio if he goes against Clinton, and Florida is a loss for either candidate.  Exilednight   Mar-05-08 03:12 PM   #151 
  - Biden at a Brokered Convention  Steely_Dan   Mar-05-08 03:12 PM   #153 
  - America had it's chance! They don't deserve that Solon, that Cincinnatus -- Biden!  Leopolds Ghost   Mar-07-08 04:00 PM   #257 
  - And the RW will eat her for lunch in the General. -eom  Justitia   Mar-05-08 03:15 PM   #156 
  - Wow, You Cave Easily  otohara   Mar-05-08 03:18 PM   #161 
  - The "she has high negatives" meme is getting old..  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:20 PM   #163 
     - Good Grief, everything the Hillary people say in this thread you're  book_worm   Mar-05-08 03:28 PM   #172 
     - Sorry, I will still support Obama and I will still be critical of Hillary  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 03:35 PM   #181 
     - Both Old AND Misleading...  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-05-08 03:29 PM   #174 
  - Hahaha. How? By having a shitty strategy?  BringBigDogBack   Mar-05-08 03:28 PM   #171 
  - Caving in to racists, idiots, and ignorant fools is not the way to go.  Bread and Circus   Mar-05-08 03:31 PM   #177 
  - Knock me over with a feather.  rug   Mar-05-08 03:35 PM   #182 
  - I Was Very Disappointed By Last Night's Results  midora   Mar-05-08 03:37 PM   #183 
  - Democrats also need New Jersey  Beacool   Mar-05-08 03:46 PM   #189 
  - No she's not...Obama with his  zidzi   Mar-05-08 04:40 PM   #205 
  - Polls are showing Hillary is our strongest candidate in the general.  Apollo11   Mar-05-08 04:43 PM   #207 
  - Dream On  midora   Mar-05-08 04:47 PM   #209 
  - Hate to say it, but Hillary is a complete embarassment to our party. Another Lieberman, only worse!  InAbLuEsTaTe   Mar-05-08 06:06 PM   #211 
  - IMO, neither Hillary nor Obama are likely to win Ohio and Florida over McCain.  Kristi1696   Mar-05-08 06:19 PM   #213 
  - Hah? How is OH red? It just elected Strickland, who is a democrat,  lizzy   Mar-05-08 06:21 PM   #214 
  - Red states elect Democratic governors all the time.  Kristi1696   Mar-05-08 06:28 PM   #217 
  - Ohio is certainly not red  NJSecularist   Mar-05-08 06:29 PM   #218 
  - There are allot of people that havent even voted yet, if you...  superkia   Mar-05-08 06:23 PM   #215 
  - I agree.... Al Gore, '08!! n/t  krkaufman   Mar-05-08 06:53 PM   #220 
  - Agreed.  elixir   Mar-05-08 06:55 PM   #221 
  - Well done. A refreshingly honest no-BS opening post. nt  anamnua   Mar-05-08 07:01 PM   #224 
  - Either Clinton or Obama will win Ohio in the general.  totodeinhere   Mar-05-08 10:11 PM   #231 
  - She's winning "key swing states" in a split democratic vote  Political Heretic   Mar-05-08 10:13 PM   #232 
  - still makes her the better candidate there in nov. nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 10:59 PM   #238 
  - but... but... Obama kicked Hillary's ass in Utah! nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 10:52 PM   #233 
  - oh baloney  Lord Helmet   Mar-05-08 10:58 PM   #237 
  - I call bullshit  jgraz   Mar-05-08 11:33 PM   #239 
  - Yup!  DemEtienne   Mar-07-08 11:07 AM   #243 
  - Yes - we should throw out the delegates and let Clinton crown herself Emperoress  jpak   Mar-07-08 11:30 AM   #249 
 

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