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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 09:55 AM
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8. Florida broke the rules
all the candidates knew the rules before the race ever began and they agreed to accept them. That's not punishing the voters of Florida, it's punishing the party for setting their race before the DNC told them they could.
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  -Would black voters leave the party if Senator Clinton pulls out all the stops? Prism  Mar-05-08 09:49 AM   #0 
  - Sort of  wndycty   Mar-05-08 09:50 AM   #1 
  - They'll be votin' for  zidzi   Mar-05-08 02:36 PM   #105 
  - Should working class whites, feminists and Hispanics leave  billbuckhead   Mar-05-08 09:50 AM   #2 
  - If Hillary wins fair and square Black folks won't have a problem with Hillary. . .  wndycty   Mar-05-08 09:53 AM   #3 
  - She has already exploited us and stabbed us in the back  goclark   Mar-05-08 10:11 AM   #28 
  - I'm not black, but I say AMEN!  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-05-08 12:12 PM   #67 
  - well said!  Blue_Roses   Mar-05-08 10:54 AM   #41 
  - I hope the superdelegates realize that, while they may have no choice by to alienate 49.9%  pampango   Mar-05-08 11:04 AM   #49 
  - I hope the super delegates realize  zidzi   Mar-05-08 02:40 PM   #106 
  - ditto for obama. you clearly think that hill is the only one playing 'dirty tricks.' you should rea  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 12:54 PM   #76 
     - hilary's has that market cornered...  zidzi   Mar-05-08 02:41 PM   #107 
  - What would render them meaningless?  Prism   Mar-05-08 09:54 AM   #7 
  - Florida broke the rules  Mystery2Me   Mar-05-08 09:55 AM   #8 
  - yeah, besides, who needs FL in the GE? screw 'em. as long as O's the nominee,  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 12:55 PM   #77 
  - The Florida Dems did not set the date - Florida Republicans did. eom  DURHAM D   Mar-05-08 09:13 PM   #114 
  - Ask those voters to talk to their idiot party leaders who decided to run  barb162   Mar-05-08 11:03 AM   #46 
  - "Florida Democrats are all for it"... undermining the party that is  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-05-08 12:13 PM   #68 
  - feminists are a TINY percentage; Latinos aren't monolithic; working class whites aren't that loyal..  NorthernSpy   Mar-05-08 02:06 PM   #93 
  - Black folks are "used" to being at the bottom......they have nothing to lose,  FrenchieCat   Mar-05-08 02:34 PM   #104 
  - There is a definite buzz going around  GigiMommy   Mar-05-08 09:53 AM   #4 
  - Clinton pulling out all stops to win this nomination  TheDebbieDee   Mar-05-08 09:53 AM   #5 
  - I remember when I said a long time ago (B.O-BEFORE OBAMA) that black folk would vote  xultar   Mar-05-08 09:54 AM   #6 
  - I hope my questions aren't offensive  Prism   Mar-05-08 10:00 AM   #14 
     - Not offensive to me, just ironic. Because when DU was B.O shit was different. How come  xultar   Mar-05-08 12:31 PM   #72 
  - Maybe  democrattotheend   Mar-05-08 09:56 AM   #9 
  - She'll not only lose a lot of African-Americans, but also young people and families like mine  Emillereid   Mar-05-08 09:56 AM   #10 
  - I agree...I am an AA I would sit the GE...F*** it  easy_b94   Mar-05-08 09:59 AM   #13 
  - and middle aged white guys like me  antifaschits   Mar-05-08 10:05 AM   #23 
  - Another MAWM here....  whistler162   Mar-05-08 01:19 PM   #83 
  - And this old man will too.  hogwyld   Mar-05-08 10:35 AM   #33 
  - and another middle aged woman  dana_b   Mar-05-08 11:54 AM   #59 
  - But are you educated enough to agree that if Clinton is the nominee  MediaBabe   Mar-05-08 12:02 PM   #62 
     - educated enough?  dana_b   Mar-05-08 12:08 PM   #65 
     - That sounded condescending?  antifaschits   Mar-05-08 01:29 PM   #86 
     - but if she walks like a republican, and she "quacks" like a republican  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-05-08 12:18 PM   #69 
     - Are you educated enough to realize that logic gave us 8 years of Bush?  Skwmom   Mar-05-08 02:32 PM   # 
  - Why should they?  Xipe Totec   Mar-05-08 09:57 AM   #11 
  - I'm not talking about a clear-cut win . . .  Prism   Mar-05-08 10:03 AM   #18 
     - Let me see if I understand your concerns  Xipe Totec   Mar-05-08 10:41 AM   #34 
        - Because I read  Prism   Mar-05-08 10:50 AM   #39 
  - Would just show they are prejudiced.  Bitwit1234   Mar-05-08 09:58 AM   #12 
  - It will show they are fed up with dirty tricks  Blu Dahlia   Mar-05-08 10:05 AM   #24 
  - Are you kidding me?  ReasonsMommy   Mar-05-08 10:08 AM   #26 
  - Aw, you're still here!  redqueen   Mar-05-08 11:50 AM   #56 
  - how many things has clinton done exactly as rove/bushco did we were disgusted by  seabeyond   Mar-05-08 10:00 AM   #15 
  - She will win 80-90% of the Black vote, the question is will they turn out in strong numbers  book_worm   Mar-05-08 10:01 AM   #16 
  - Yeah, they don't leave when white Democrats put their kids in crappy schools and their men in prison  IndianaJones   Mar-05-08 10:02 AM   #17 
  - I don't think they would go to McCain...  Sir Jeffrey   Mar-05-08 10:03 AM   #19 
  - if McPain puts Mike Steele on the ticket  Wayjose   Mar-05-08 10:07 AM   #25 
  - This is a good point...  Sir Jeffrey   Mar-05-08 10:27 AM   #30 
  - There is not a chance in hell I would vote for McOld if Steele  oviedodem   Mar-05-08 10:53 AM   #40 
  - No way. Michael Steele ran a very dirty campaign here in MD.  Kaylee   Mar-05-08 11:39 AM   #53 
  - I doubt that.  NOLALady   Mar-05-08 09:11 PM   #113 
  - I agree  loyalsister   Mar-05-08 10:23 AM   #29 
  - Many are already starting to think just that now.  PFunk   Mar-05-08 10:03 AM   #20 
  - Probably as many answers as there are AA voters  HooptieWagon   Mar-05-08 10:04 AM   #21 
  - Its about Turnout  chyjo   Mar-05-08 10:05 AM   #22 
  - yep  Strawman   Mar-05-08 11:00 AM   #45 
  - I don't believe they would vote against  Justyce   Mar-05-08 10:09 AM   #27 
  - But some of these energized people who may previously been intermitent  Kaylee   Mar-05-08 11:42 AM   #54 
  - It's different.  woolldog   Mar-05-08 01:25 PM   #85 
     - You would rather have McCain?  Justyce   Mar-05-08 02:00 PM   #90 
        - Over someone who ran a bigoted campaign?  woolldog   Mar-05-08 02:09 PM   #95 
           - I don't agree that she has run a bigoted campaign, but regardless, republicans'  Justyce   Mar-05-08 02:27 PM   #100 
  - More likely...  kentuck   Mar-05-08 10:29 AM   #31 
  - THIS black voter would  Fire_brand   Mar-05-08 10:30 AM   #32 
  - I am a black voter and I am having a hard time staying with the  oviedodem   Mar-05-08 10:42 AM   #35 
  - My husband is already an Indy. I'm considering following him  Kaylee   Mar-05-08 11:45 AM   #55 
  - Hell, I'll leave the party if she pulls out all of the stops.  yourguide   Mar-05-08 10:47 AM   #36 
  - I don't think they'd leave the party.  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-05-08 10:48 AM   #37 
  - And if blacks do leave the party then McCain wins.  totodeinhere   Mar-05-08 10:48 AM   #38 
  - You think that argument will retain the black base?  Skwmom   Mar-05-08 01:52 PM   #88 
  - Remind Me Again How the Hillary Clinton Campaign Is Playing the Race Card, Will You?  Crisco   Mar-05-08 10:56 AM   #42 
  - My question also.  barb162   Mar-05-08 11:04 AM   #47 
  - I don't believe Senator Clinton's racist  Prism   Mar-05-08 12:07 PM   #64 
  - You're right, of course  MediaBabe   Mar-05-08 12:23 PM   #71 
  - I don't think she does either.  woolldog   Mar-05-08 02:00 PM   #91 
  - race card was called when hillary lost in sc, compared obama to jackson...  goletian   Mar-05-08 11:04 AM   #48 
  - Why Did Clinton Say It? Perhaps Because He Didn't Feel the Need  Crisco   Mar-05-08 11:57 AM   #61 
  - I've always admired Jesse Jackson  MediaBabe   Mar-05-08 12:18 PM   #70 
  - it's so much more than that comment in SC  woolldog   Mar-05-08 02:04 PM   #92 
  - Not what I said  Prism   Mar-05-08 12:03 PM   #63 
  - it's all hill's fault. nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 12:57 PM   #78 
  - No.  shaniqua6392   Mar-05-08 10:57 AM   #43 
  - Blacks will vote Democrat.  mculator   Mar-05-08 10:58 AM   #44 
  - If that's what the Democratic leaders think they really are a clueless bunch.  Skwmom   Mar-05-08 11:05 AM   #50 
  - But if the candidate pisses on them...  HooptieWagon   Mar-05-08 11:05 AM   #51 
  - From what I'm hearing from black callers here in PA  RamboLiberal   Mar-05-08 11:18 AM   #52 
  - It all depends...  RiverStone   Mar-05-08 11:50 AM   #57 
  - Perfectly stated. I couldn't agree more.  KAZ   Mar-05-08 11:55 AM   #60 
  - If she wins it through backroom deals,  redqueen   Mar-05-08 11:54 AM   #58 
  - they might if the Dem Party returns to its racist roots  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-05-08 12:10 PM   #66 
  - I'm telling you now  redstate_democrat   Mar-05-08 12:34 PM   #73 
  - If "pulling out the stops" means race-baiting,  NOLALady   Mar-05-08 12:38 PM   #74 
  - are you concerned that women will leave the party because of the way hillary was treated? nt  VotesForWomen   Mar-05-08 12:53 PM   #75 
  - If the scenario were reversed, yes.  Prism   Mar-05-08 12:58 PM   #79 
  - Interesting question.  igil   Mar-05-08 01:06 PM   #80 
  - I generally agree with what you're saying  Prism   Mar-05-08 01:24 PM   #84 
  - kicked and recommended - the DNC must think hard about this  WillYourVoteBCounted   Mar-05-08 01:08 PM   #81 
  - probably  loveangelc   Mar-05-08 01:08 PM   #82 
  - There will be riots in the streets if the nomination is stolen from Obama  Iconoclast Texan   Mar-05-08 01:32 PM   #87 
     - LOL  woolldog   Mar-05-08 03:34 PM   #112 
  - Probably more than them.  mmonk   Mar-05-08 01:53 PM   #89 
  - Sounds like a self imposed segregation, i.e., not a good idea.  anamandujano   Mar-05-08 02:06 PM   #94 
  - Bullshit - it's what happens when you make your campaign about attacking the race  NMMatt   Mar-05-08 02:32 PM   #103 
  - The black and youth votes  pbca   Mar-05-08 02:10 PM   #96 
  - I could see a dip in turnout  theboss   Mar-05-08 02:11 PM   #97 
  - I'm a white male  Citizen Kang   Mar-05-08 02:19 PM   #98 
  - At this point, there is no will of the people to subvert, no matter how  anamandujano   Mar-05-08 02:23 PM   #99 
     - Uh, what?  Citizen Kang   Mar-05-08 02:29 PM   #101 
  - hilary is dlc...How many Black voters  zidzi   Mar-05-08 02:32 PM   #102 
  - The GOP may have a rare opportunity to use a nativist appeal...  NorthernSpy   Mar-05-08 02:51 PM   #108 
  - As a black man, I believe if the black majority perceive an inherent unfairness  writes3000   Mar-05-08 02:56 PM   #109 
  - There definately would be a backlash  ellacott   Mar-05-08 03:13 PM   #110 
  - No!  cat_girl25   Mar-05-08 03:16 PM   #111 
 

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