joshcryer
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Wed Mar-05-08 03:38 AM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 49. Well they can table a vote at the DNC to seat them for him, so yeah. |
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Obviously he and the other candidates were political opportunists by chosing not to be represented in those states.
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| -Obama delegates cost 10251 votes, Clinton's cost 11152. |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:01 AM |
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No... |
ingac70 |
Mar-05-08 02:03 AM |
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Florida Florida Florida |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:05 AM |
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Perhaps, but it never has... |
ingac70 |
Mar-05-08 02:08 AM |
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It stinks.....and caucuses should be stopped. |
LulaMay |
Mar-05-08 02:05 AM |
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It gets even worse. |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:07 AM |
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that makes me sick |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:10 AM |
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Individual state parties.... |
ingac70 |
Mar-05-08 02:12 AM |
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The thing is, Idaho wasn't close. |
PseudoIntellect |
Mar-05-08 02:14 AM |
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Exactly. That's the problem. |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:16 AM |
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Right now, that would be Senator Obama. - n/t |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 02:20 AM |
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Yup. I totally support democracy, even if my candidate doesn't win. n/t |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:22 AM |
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Not if you count FL and MI |
MonkeyFunk |
Mar-05-08 03:00 AM |
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And even if you don't count FL and MI, she still gets less delegates per vote. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:20 AM |
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But does she have the lead in the popular vote? |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 03:25 AM |
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Even if she did she could have less delegates, don't ya get that? |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:29 AM |
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Perspective: she has to have almost 1.4 million *more* votes than him to *tie* in delegates. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:34 AM |
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No, she could have won in those places that Obama won |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 04:14 AM |
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The math doesn't lie. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 04:29 AM |
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No... |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 04:45 AM |
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I expect the rules to be changed after this DNC. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 04:46 AM |
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That will not be a consideration |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 04:53 AM |
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Why wouldn't it be a "consideration"? Do you know the DNC process? Anything can be tabled. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 05:02 AM |
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It won't be a consideration because Hillary won't win the majority |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 05:26 AM |
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And how do you count the popular vote from Michigan |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 03:23 AM |
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Exit polling, obviously. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:29 AM |
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Obama got no votes in Michigan |
MonkeyFunk |
Mar-05-08 03:35 AM |
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Well they can table a vote at the DNC to seat them for him, so yeah. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:38 AM |
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See, I knew that would be your answer. |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 03:59 AM |
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And if Clinton was in Obama's spot |
MonkeyFunk |
Mar-05-08 05:20 AM |
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Well, in that case, |
PseudoIntellect |
Mar-05-08 02:22 AM |
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Oh, and worse than that... |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 02:18 AM |
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Yeah, and I never said that was fair either. |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:25 AM |
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Those delegates are determined by individual votes.... 1000 people vote, 1 delegate |
Levgreee |
Mar-05-08 02:12 AM |
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The problem is that delegates are worth more in different states. |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:14 AM |
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It's the same in the General Election, where we have an Electoral system. |
Levgreee |
Mar-05-08 02:32 AM |
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Yeah, and I think the electoral college should be abolished. So do many, many others. n/t |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:35 AM |
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DU was *created* because 2000 wasn't based on popular vote. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 02:41 AM |
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Good cause |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:45 AM |
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2000 was the worst time of my life. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 02:57 AM |
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You are talking about the Texas primary rules? |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 02:12 AM |
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nothing to do with Texas |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:27 AM |
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Caucuses |
Beregond2 |
Mar-05-08 02:23 AM |
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When party activists have the only say |
zlt234 |
Mar-05-08 02:29 AM |
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Let's take away Hawii's senators too and give them to California. |
anigbrowl |
Mar-05-08 02:36 AM |
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the constitution is not the democratic party |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:47 AM |
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The DNC is where the nomination happens, those are the rules. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:19 AM |
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teh internets |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:33 AM |
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Doesn't the same apply to republicans? |
anigbrowl |
Mar-05-08 02:37 AM |
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sure |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:43 AM |
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Yes, I was pointing that out in another post |
lapfog_1 |
Mar-05-08 02:33 AM |
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Parliment |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:39 AM |
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This will be one of the many arguments tabled at the DNC. Who will be the most persuasive, is... |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 02:39 AM |
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2012 |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:41 AM |
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Yeah, 2012 I expect caucuses to be done away with. Perhaps even the Electoral College. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 02:43 AM |
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BTW, isn't it somewhat amusing that the woman, in the end, gets less reward for equal effort? |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 02:44 AM |
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wow... just wow |
Buve |
Mar-05-08 02:49 AM |
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I made that my sig. It's worth noting everywhere. |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:01 AM |
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In terms of delegate cost: Rudy Guiliani's 1 delegate for $50 million takes the cake |
LSdemocrat |
Mar-05-08 03:37 AM |
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Transvestites even get a more raw deal than women! |
joshcryer |
Mar-05-08 03:39 AM |
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