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Mon Mar-03-08 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 44. i'm not blaming hillary's campaign conduct on her race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation- |
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i'm blaming it on the fact that she's being bitchy about a lot of things- and if obama were being bitchy about it, i'd say the same about him. but he's not. she is. as far as your business partner's attitude- as long as no actual laws were broken, then yes,it's "permissible" because people are entitled to their opinions. if he did it in a way that breaks the law, then no- it's not "permissible"- that's how free speech works in this country. you may not like or agree with everything someone says- but that has NO bearing on their RIGHT to voice their opinion. would you prefer that the 1st amendment be scrapped entirely, or just re-written to suit you? 
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| -Hillary being called a "Bitch": Makes me want to get on the next wave of feminism |
cap |
Mar-03-08 07:37 AM |
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Why Is Sexism Accepted In So Called "Polite Circles" But Racism Isn't? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:40 AM |
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Yes we should |
leftofcool |
Mar-03-08 07:46 AM |
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Goddamn Right |
Dinger |
Mar-03-08 09:13 AM |
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Obama supporter here and I do not tolerate |
powergirl |
Mar-03-08 07:43 AM |
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I Still Hear "So Called" Educated People Making Homophobic And Sexist Remarks |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:44 AM |
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thank you. I know Obama would be appalled by the name-calling of some of his fans here on DU! |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 07:49 AM |
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A Mean Woman |
midora |
Mar-03-08 03:03 PM |
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Thanks for bringing the issue up, or not, as the case may be. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:44 AM |
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How Does Losing Her Lead In A Poll Turn Her Into A "Stupid" Or "Fucking Bitch"? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:47 AM |
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You are connecting two disparate things. Try evaluating the one you raised. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:49 AM |
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Yes, there were. |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 07:51 AM |
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Well, good, but the point stands, doesn't it, that the sheer number of |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:52 AM |
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Do you have a graph or something? |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 07:54 AM |
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That can be your project if you want. You have a star. Do your own |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:55 AM |
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It was your claim, not mine. |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 07:58 AM |
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If it's a separate matter, Sparkly, then the OP is mistaken. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:59 AM |
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The OP is about calling Hillary a "bitch" |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 01:03 PM |
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I get the point, but I see that the post was presented in GD-Primaries |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:39 PM |
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This is silly. |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 07:57 PM |
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You think she's going to win the nomination? |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 08:10 PM |
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I doubt it, but you're changing the subject again. |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 08:14 PM |
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Her being a frontrunner has nothing to do with her candidacy? |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 08:15 PM |
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"I support Obama but I do not like seeing Hillary trashed. " |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 08:22 PM |
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They may well be what they seem but that doesn't make them thoughtful. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 08:24 PM |
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A shitty mess indeed. |
0007 |
Mar-03-08 09:17 AM |
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dont want to debate the point... I am just energized to take action |
cap |
Mar-03-08 11:22 AM |
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Well, cap, I go elsewhere all the time. I go to the grocery store, the |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:40 PM |
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You shouldn't attribute someone's actions to their race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:52 AM |
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But robbing "all of us" of our individuality is what I DO. That's why they |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:53 AM |
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The HillaryHaters will all fade away soon, no matter who gets the nom. |
MethuenProgressive |
Mar-03-08 07:46 AM |
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so true. |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 08:04 AM |
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I don't know about that. That much hate doesn't just vanish overnight. Hate transference is a very |
Beausoir |
Mar-03-08 12:12 PM |
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She has earned the trashing that she gets by her despicable actions |
JVS |
Mar-03-08 07:46 AM |
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the MATURE obamafolk are into vile thrashing nor name-calling!! |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 07:50 AM |
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MY mom watch 60 Min. last night and she call her a bitch |
easy_b94 |
Mar-03-08 07:46 AM |
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I Am Half Jewish |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:49 AM |
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But.... |
tyne |
Mar-03-08 07:50 AM |
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Did They Say Bitch Should Be Prefaced By "Fucking" Or "Stupid"? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:53 AM |
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Why would that |
tyne |
Mar-03-08 07:57 AM |
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That's so missing the point |
Marie26 |
Mar-03-08 08:01 AM |
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My mom is in her 60s and she calls her a bitch too |
I Vote In Pittsburgh |
Mar-03-08 11:13 AM |
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This remark is off topic |
cap |
Mar-03-08 11:18 AM |
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No it isn't |
I Vote In Pittsburgh |
Mar-03-08 11:25 AM |
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I did not intend for this thread to be a discussion of whether there is sexism |
cap |
Mar-03-08 11:34 AM |
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your mom has a problem |
JoFerret |
Mar-03-08 01:51 PM |
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I don't know how to handle it. |
susanr516 |
Mar-03-08 07:52 AM |
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The sexism, hit what I thought was my last nerve, at the Iowa debate. Then |
Little Star |
Mar-03-08 07:52 AM |
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Who is calling her a B****? |
UALRBSofL |
Mar-03-08 07:52 AM |
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"Name removed", mostly. Our Mods are doing fine work! |
MethuenProgressive |
Mar-03-08 08:06 AM |
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some |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 08:08 AM |
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hillary needs to stop acting like one, then...her "as far as i know" comment re: Obama's religion- |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 07:55 AM |
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That's A Ridiculous Argument |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 07:59 AM |
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it's more than just the one comment- it's her entire demeanor throughout this campaign. |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 08:09 AM |
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Your Argument Becomes More Ridiculous |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 08:16 AM |
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i'm not blaming hillary's campaign conduct on her race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation- |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 08:41 AM |
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The First Amendment Only Protects You From The Government |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 09:07 AM |
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they may not have jobs- but they weren't prosecuted for anything involving what they said. |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 12:10 PM |
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It Is Not That Simple |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 12:16 PM |
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it is that simple for me...i use the term bitch in reference to both men and women... |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 01:47 PM |
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Maybe You Need To Create A New Dictionary And New Definitions |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 01:53 PM |
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not necessary... |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 02:25 PM |
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You Can Call A Horse A Plane But That Doesn't Mean It Can Fly |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Mar-03-08 02:38 PM |
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She talks of how the Muslim rumor is a smear job-Did you forget that comment in your hate? |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 08:06 AM |
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Hillary Clinton knows full well what church Barack Obama belongs to. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 08:16 AM |
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but the "as far as i know" comment basically negated all of that. |
QuestionAll |
Mar-03-08 08:17 AM |
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Agreed. Sen. Clinton forgets, on purpose, that words really do matter. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 08:18 AM |
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How about reviving the Equal Rights Amendment? |
Sparkly |
Mar-03-08 07:55 AM |
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I'm for it and endorse your idea. It's long overdue, in fact, |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:56 AM |
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hear hear.... |
cap |
Mar-03-08 03:53 PM |
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I am not seeing any "wave" of feminism as a bad wave to get onto, and see |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 08:25 AM |
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You are always going to have a certain amount of that in any campaign. |
totodeinhere |
Mar-03-08 08:25 AM |
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I don't think that Tina Fey meant any harm. n/t |
Kristi1696 |
Mar-03-08 09:10 AM |
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Sexism is candidate Clinton's primary opponent [Philly Inquier} |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 09:16 AM |
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bingo |
printpolitico |
Mar-03-08 09:35 AM |
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There is another group--who take things for granted--the rights many early |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 10:38 AM |
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You have some good ideas but let's not lose them in |
cap |
Mar-03-08 11:25 AM |
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No it isn't. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 09:43 AM |
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Sexism has played a role--i do not agree it is primary. |
rodeodance |
Mar-03-08 09:45 AM |
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But sexism, whether nuanced or overt, plays a part in a lot of things. |
Old Crusoe |
Mar-03-08 07:46 PM |
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Be my guest |
0007 |
Mar-03-08 10:20 AM |
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It fucking well pisses me off. |
redqueen |
Mar-03-08 10:40 AM |
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Let's focus on what do we want to do next... |
cap |
Mar-03-08 11:11 AM |
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I'm alerting the mods on some of this... |
cap |
Mar-03-08 11:17 AM |
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Do not give the obnoxious fuckers the power to shut your thread down. |
Maddy McCall |
Mar-03-08 03:18 PM |
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Thank you! I'm for Obama, too, but the reflexive sexism against Clinton is appalling |
Bucky |
Mar-03-08 11:31 AM |
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This Saturday is International Women's Day. |
Beacool |
Mar-03-08 11:48 AM |
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The number one issue for women that needs to be addressed is health care/insurance. |
DURHAM D |
Mar-03-08 12:54 PM |
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Your right about health care |
cap |
Mar-03-08 03:55 PM |
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Hillary even seemed to think it was cool to call herself a "bitch".. |
RoadRage |
Mar-03-08 12:56 PM |
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I'm a woman. I've been called bitch. |
Mystery2Me |
Mar-03-08 01:04 PM |
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Good one!! |
Beacool |
Mar-03-08 03:17 PM |
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I'd like her to be a woman. |
Hoof Hearted |
Mar-03-08 04:12 PM |
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Hillary says she's not a bitch and I take her at her word |
BeyondGeography |
Mar-03-08 04:15 PM |
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back to the original post: what are we going to do for the next wave of feminism... |
cap |
Mar-04-08 10:19 AM |
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I'll just call her a rat bastard from now on |
sandnsea |
Mar-03-08 04:15 PM |
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LOL |
jzodda |
Mar-03-08 08:07 PM |
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I never thought I would be on the wave, but since NH, I've been riding the tidal wave. nt |
MassDemm |
Mar-03-08 07:57 PM |
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i am voting obama and i sure will yell about the seism shit too. n/t |
seabeyond |
Mar-03-08 07:58 PM |
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I think she should own the bitch label. I don't mind being called a bitch. That said, sexism sucks. |
krabigirl |
Mar-04-08 10:39 AM |
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i ahd a 15 yr old tell me being called a whore was ok because it just doesnt mean |
seabeyond |
Mar-04-08 10:44 AM |
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It doesn't surprise me that we've ended up with the two most easily demonized Demo candidates. |
Peake |
Mar-04-08 10:54 AM |
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