Spiffarino
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Sun Mar-02-08 12:15 PM
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| 6. It really hurt, because I liked Bill as a President |
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As a person he seemed a bit out of control, but as a leader there have been few better in our nation's history in terms of getting things done. Jefferson; Monroe; Polk; Jackson; Lincoln; TR; Wilson; FDR; Kennedy; Johnson; Reagan and Clinton: The things they accomplished certainly weren't always for the good, but they all had the skill and force of personality to drive public policy and achieve their goals.
We've had very few leaders like these among the forty-three Presidents. To now see Bill Clinton act like a typical campaign bomb-thrower lowers my opinion of him enough to consider taking him off the list. I suspect I'm not alone.
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| -Eleanor Clift explains her vote against Hillary |
BeyondGeography |
Mar-02-08 10:45 AM |
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I was an Edwards guy |
Spiffarino |
Mar-02-08 11:56 AM |
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. |
writes3000 |
Mar-02-08 11:57 AM |
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It really hurt, because I liked Bill as a President |
Spiffarino |
Mar-02-08 12:15 PM |
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I am sure it hurt Bill to be called a racist. And Hillary, too. |
Ravy |
Mar-02-08 02:45 PM |
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The "Fairy tale" comment didn't mean anything |
Spiffarino |
Mar-02-08 05:25 PM |
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I don't think he met anything racist either about the fairy tale comment... |
Ravy |
Mar-02-08 09:03 PM |
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The Jackson comment was after the SC primary |
Spiffarino |
Mar-02-08 11:09 PM |
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That is brutal. |
Bleachers7 |
Mar-02-08 11:57 AM |
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It's beautiful. |
Katzenkavalier |
Mar-02-08 12:00 PM |
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Beautifully, brutally, |
zidzi |
Mar-02-08 12:46 PM |
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Clift is a cool gal. |
From The Left |
Mar-02-08 12:02 PM |
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"by seeming to inject race." Lovely, Obama shouts "racism" from the rooftops |
Evergreen Emerald |
Mar-02-08 12:16 PM |
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Sorry for you, people actually LISTENED to what Bill said. |
writes3000 |
Mar-02-08 12:20 PM |
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Right. Because when he said that Obama's stance on the war is a |
Evergreen Emerald |
Mar-02-08 12:23 PM |
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As I've said many times, I didn't feel like that was a racist comment. |
writes3000 |
Mar-02-08 12:26 PM |
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Of course he was trying to deman Obama's chances...this is politics |
Evergreen Emerald |
Mar-02-08 01:22 PM |
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ooooorrrrr you could take Clift and the many who feel the same way seriously... |
NorthernSpy |
Mar-02-08 12:21 PM |
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I think Elanor Clift is intelligent enough to see what's going on. |
JVS |
Mar-02-08 12:32 PM |
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Whatever it was, was right out there in the open |
union_maid |
Mar-02-08 12:33 PM |
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Tell that to Clyburn, Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry, etc. Without proof? Right. nt |
babylonsister |
Mar-02-08 12:34 PM |
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Obama NEVER EVER shouted "racism". I believe it is YOUR candidate |
beachmom |
Mar-03-08 08:48 AM |
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Always liked Eleanor - this just reinforces my opinion. n/t |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Mar-02-08 12:31 PM |
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Fucking bil...does |
zidzi |
Mar-02-08 12:45 PM |
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It is threads like these which really burn up so many gays who got pissed by McClurkin |
dsc |
Mar-02-08 01:06 PM |
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no, it was the ~selectivity~ of the McClurkin outrage on the part of some... |
NorthernSpy |
Mar-02-08 01:54 PM |
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and your outrage is just as selective |
dsc |
Mar-02-08 02:06 PM |
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correct; but racism counts, homophobia doesn't, don't you know? nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-02-08 02:31 PM |
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sometimes the softest jabs are the most deadly |
grantcart |
Mar-02-08 01:13 PM |
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Excellent article. K & R. |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-02-08 01:25 PM |
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I didn't think it was racist... |
butterfly77 |
Mar-02-08 02:12 PM |
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oh yeah, the clintons injected race.... blah blah blah. bs. nt |
VotesForWomen |
Mar-02-08 02:30 PM |
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Listen up. There were many dog-whistles before Bill's JJ remark.. |
Kahuna |
Mar-02-08 03:34 PM |
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Eleanor speaks for me....n/t |
Tarheel_Dem |
Mar-03-08 08:43 AM |
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kick |
grantcart |
Mar-03-08 11:22 AM |
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