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202. Billary merely prolonging defeat, this defeat is a harsh blow to both Bill and Hil...Bill Clinton
had some serious prince-like plans for the next 8 years...
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  -Breaking: Texas Dems warn of Clinton lawsuit that could shut down caucuses!!! mckeown1128  Feb-29-08 12:23 AM   #0 
  - Disgusting.  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:24 AM   #1 
  - why only 1 recommend? Kicked and recommended, this should go on front page!  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 12:54 AM   #33 
  - won't recommend without proof...  WHAT   Feb-29-08 01:37 AM   #45 
  - The Clinton campaign officially denied the threat.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 06:51 AM   #59 
     - Their denial doesn't take away the written memo. nt  CaliforniaDreaming   Feb-29-08 11:59 PM   #193 
  - Obama challenged every state in which he lost--and you are complaining about  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-29-08 08:38 AM   #81 
  - Judging from New York precinct results ...  BearSquirrel2   Feb-29-08 05:40 PM   #161 
  - typical--condemn before you read the entire article:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:15 AM   #107 
  - Hillary will do ANYTHING to win. She's bad news.*  PITBOS   Feb-29-08 09:37 PM   #188 
  - Last I looked, Texans hated lawyers getting in the way of anything  BeyondGeography   Feb-29-08 12:25 AM   #2 
  - Master plan Penn?  FrenchieCat   Feb-29-08 12:26 AM   #3 
     - Sarcasm now included  BeyondGeography   Feb-29-08 12:27 AM   #5 
  - unnamed sources and of course it is always HRC that is  BenDavid   Feb-29-08 12:26 AM   #4 
  - Well, last time I checked, the only one with a problem with caucuses  The Anti-Bush   Feb-29-08 12:29 AM   #7 
  - yep.  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:31 AM   #12 
  - The Texas Democratic Party...isn't a reliable source...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:29 AM   #8 
  - Caucuses aren't exactly Clinton's strong suit.  anonymous171   Feb-29-08 12:30 AM   #9 
  - The sun is setting...on Hillary. She did it herself to herself. Worst campaign in my lifetime, and  John Q. Citizen   Feb-29-08 12:34 AM   #16 
  - me too,  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:35 AM   #18 
  - Yes, I'm in my 50s and I will  Jawja   Feb-29-08 06:51 AM   #60 
  - I'm over 60 and it is the most disappointing campaign  goclark   Feb-29-08 03:52 PM   #152 
  - If she were so great this wouldn't  zidzi   Feb-29-08 07:18 PM   #172 
  - Mark Penn and the Clintons are really taking the low roads at every opportunity now.  David Zephyr   Feb-29-08 11:46 AM   #130 
  - why would Obama have incentive to do this????????  LSK   Feb-29-08 10:13 AM   #119 
  - Please tell me this isn't true.  The Anti-Bush   Feb-29-08 12:28 AM   #6 
  - The threat of suing is probably true...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:30 AM   #10 
  - The CLinton camp officially denied the threat to sue, said no legal action needed.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 06:52 AM   #61 
  - umm... I did read the article... and I even stated that BOTH  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 07:43 AM   #66 
  - The Clinton camp is as credible as the Bush White House  IndianaGreen   Feb-29-08 04:14 PM   #156 
     - I can't say I disagree with you.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 04:47 PM   #157 
  - I expect it was a threat, as a trial balloon ...  krkaufman   Feb-29-08 11:43 PM   #191 
  - READ the article-  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:17 AM   #108 
  - If one actually reads the article it's both campaigns disagreeing on the rules  ruggerson   Feb-29-08 12:30 AM   #11 
  - that is why i posted that both campaigns have a problem with the rules.  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:31 AM   #13 
  - I doubt there will be any lawsuit  ruggerson   Feb-29-08 12:33 AM   #14 
  - McClatchy Papers are thorough and careful  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 01:02 AM   #36 
     - This is all over the Texas Papers.. Austin, Dallas,, Ft Worth, etc..  K Gardner   Feb-29-08 08:08 AM   #73 
        - Good!  Yael   Feb-29-08 08:35 AM   #79 
  - but you posted overzealous interpretations of what transpired  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:11 AM   #104 
  - .  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:37 AM   #19 
  - .  ruggerson   Feb-29-08 12:43 AM   #26 
  - I wish people would read the article.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 06:49 AM   #57 
     - Read THIS article! Houston Chronicle  catgirl   Feb-29-08 07:59 AM   # 
  - I hope this is heavily reported in Texas.  loveangelc   Feb-29-08 12:33 AM   #15 
  - It should be... all the major newspapers endorsed Obama...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:34 AM   #17 
  - The girl who can't dance claims the band can't play,  Old Crusoe   Feb-29-08 12:38 AM   #20 
  - sad, no?  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:38 AM   #22 
     - Hi, BBDB. I don't know what's going on down in Texas in these  Old Crusoe   Feb-29-08 12:40 AM   #23 
        - I was kind of thinking the same thing,  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:43 AM   #25 
  - Oh, nothing these people do surprise me anymore.  GoreVidalIsGod   Feb-29-08 12:38 AM   #21 
  - What I wonder is, if either Clinton or Obama have a problem with  SeattleGirl   Feb-29-08 12:40 AM   #24 
  - Obama pities the fool who messes with Texas!!!  JackORoses   Feb-29-08 12:45 AM   #27 
  - interesting  bigbrother05   Feb-29-08 12:47 AM   #28 
  - Goddammit this better not be true!  bluestateguy   Feb-29-08 12:48 AM   #29 
  - Oh God  ArizonaJosie   Feb-29-08 12:49 AM   #30 
  - Hiya, ArizonaJosie!  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 06:50 AM   #58 
     - Thank you!  ArizonaJosie   Feb-29-08 04:03 PM   #154 
  - Her motives would be so self evident...  RiverStone   Feb-29-08 12:51 AM   #31 
  - This must be the "Anything to Win" Hillary - Election Fraud part of Kitchen Sink  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 12:51 AM   #32 
  - Good. Caucuses are a sham  jackson_dem   Feb-29-08 12:59 AM   #34 
  - Change the rules mid-race! Yay! If she does this, her future will rightfully be destroyed in the Dem  GarbagemanLB   Feb-29-08 01:00 AM   #35 
  - Hillary - ready to whine and cheat on day one.  NormaR   Feb-29-08 01:35 AM   #41 
  - dont forget her advisor Mark Penn is with same firm that advises McCain  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 01:59 AM   #48 
     - And The New World Order  BecauseBushSaysSo   Feb-29-08 07:09 PM   #167 
  - says both camps are involved in negotiating the rules. Read before you spout!  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:22 AM   #112 
  - Yeah. Citizens gathering together and telling others who they support and why...  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:26 AM   #77 
  - Bill didn't whine about Texas rules when he ran  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 07:15 PM   #170 
  - Then Hillary should have challenged the caucus system before  EvolveOrConvolve   Feb-29-08 07:22 PM   #177 
  - First we support it. Then we understand it. Then we sue to change it.  Kristi1696   Feb-29-08 01:02 AM   #37 
  - wtf, is this primary getting ready to become a complete disaster?  meow mix   Feb-29-08 01:07 AM   #38 
  - I support Hillary 100%. She speaks for me!  jlake   Feb-29-08 01:32 AM   #39 
  - is that a joke?  NormaR   Feb-29-08 01:36 AM   #42 
  - Where was she when the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen????????  NormaR   Feb-29-08 01:36 AM   #43 
     - Where was she when the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen????????  metamars   Feb-29-08 06:43 PM   #165 
  - 5 more days  Yael   Feb-29-08 08:38 AM   #82 
  - "I had no idea how bizarre it is. We have grown men crying over it."  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:42 AM   #84 
  - what makes this especially despicable, if true  JustinL   Feb-29-08 01:33 AM   #40 
  - So she knew about the system, but was unprepared for it because  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 06:54 AM   #63 
  - Good catch...JustinL  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-29-08 09:48 AM   #115 
  - IF?--no --NOT true--both camps say if suits NOT until after March 4--see this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:21 PM   # 
  - And wow, the high level of respect I had for Hillary in 2007 and before had dwindled....  Political Heretic   Feb-29-08 01:37 AM   #44 
  - Funny how Texas has been so hated for delivering bush and for just being Texas  judaspriestess   Feb-29-08 01:39 AM   #46 
  - Well, you win the award for weakest attack on Obama supporters...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 07:56 AM   #67 
  - Can't win em, break the rules  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 01:57 AM   #47 
  - Oops, here's another one about it.  Major Hogwash   Feb-29-08 02:43 AM   #49 
  - Sounds good to me...she should work the legal system for all it's worth.  CyberPieHole   Feb-29-08 02:45 AM   #50 
  - Like B*sh and Harris worked the legal system in 2000?  harun   Feb-29-08 06:37 AM   #55 
  - I agree, that whole "voting" thing is *definitely* not working out.  billyoc   Feb-29-08 07:01 AM   #65 
  - Yeah! FUCK DEMOCRACY!!! Let whoever can afford the best lawyers run the country!  cui bono   Feb-29-08 09:27 PM   #187 
  - Obama is ready  grantcart   Feb-29-08 03:14 AM   #51 
  - I suspect this is just another idea Penn and Wolfson are floating to gauge reaction.  Tatiana   Feb-29-08 03:44 AM   #52 
  - For cryin' out loud, desperation, thy name is Clinton? This is beyond  babylonsister   Feb-29-08 06:34 AM   #53 
  - We already knew that the Clintons do not think rules apply to them.  Mass   Feb-29-08 06:36 AM   #54 
  - I'd think long and hard before "George Bushing" my way into the WH  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 06:47 AM   #56 
  - kick.  jakem   Feb-29-08 06:52 AM   #62 
  - it'd be devastating for her  nlb   Feb-29-08 06:58 AM   #64 
  - Wow. The Clintons are literally going to shut down democracy if they think it won't go their way.  Occam Bandage   Feb-29-08 07:56 AM   #68 
  - seems to me the article said it could be clinton or obama..so you are assuming alot!  flyarm   Feb-29-08 08:48 AM   #87 
  - Clinton becomes more like Bush every day. This is something he and Rove would pull.  sparosnare   Feb-29-08 07:59 AM   #69 
  - Clinton is already Bush in a Pantsuit. Who are you kidding?  Independent-Voter   Feb-29-08 08:00 AM   #70 
  - Clinton seeks WRITTEN AGREEMENT in advance of Texas Caucus  K Gardner   Feb-29-08 08:04 AM   #71 
  - WTF  WolverineDG   Feb-29-08 07:21 PM   #175 
  - JAMES BAKER TO REPRESENT CLINTONS!!!  Pryderi   Feb-29-08 08:06 AM   #72 
  - Next they'll orchestrate a "riot" of "citizens" (aka Hillary staffers)  Oregonian   Feb-29-08 03:48 PM   #150 
  - This was just reported on MSNBC and Chuck Todd verified  K Gardner   Feb-29-08 08:10 AM   #74 
  - It's too late, Hillary. There's nothing left in you that I can live with.  Pryderi   Feb-29-08 08:12 AM   #75 
  - More from TPM and politico...  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:24 AM   #76 
  - She's right -- voting is just another name for discrimination!  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 08:30 AM   #78 
  - Hillary: *Votes* don't count.  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:37 AM   #80 
  - Good night, Hilly!  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 08:39 AM   #83 
  - clinton is ripping us to shreds  dempartisan23   Feb-29-08 08:43 AM   #85 
  - TX is fucked up only 100 of the 200+ delegates are awarded on Tuesday the rest not until June caucus  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-29-08 08:44 AM   #86 
  - Too bad it's been set up this way for decades  tammywammy   Feb-29-08 03:34 PM   #140 
  - They just reported this on MSNBC...I think this could  my3boyz   Feb-29-08 08:48 AM   #88 
  - hillary has delared war on the democrat party  dempartisan23   Feb-29-08 08:50 AM   #89 
     - DemocratIC Party.  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 08:53 AM   #92 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Feb-29-08 08:51 AM   #90 
  - I Applaud Her And Obama's Efforts With This. The Caucus System There Is A Disgrace.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-29-08 08:51 AM   #91 
  - no kidding...that system is not democratic and it is a sham! and a shame. eom  flyarm   Feb-29-08 08:54 AM   #93 
  - Yes as it says-"both campaigns have made it clear that they might consider legal options"  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:04 AM   #99 
  - It's not the argument it is the timing...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 10:12 AM   #118 
  - What Is Right Remains Right, Despite Timing Or Intent.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-29-08 11:16 AM   #126 
     - Them's the rules. You can't go changing them just because you see trouble ahead.  cui bono   Feb-29-08 11:00 PM   #190 
  - Excuse me? We've been using it for TWENTY YEARS.  crispini   Feb-29-08 10:15 AM   #120 
  - Thank you Crispini  tammywammy   Feb-29-08 03:35 PM   #141 
  - Bill Clinton won the Texas prima-caucus in '92 and '96. Hillary didn't bitch about it!  IndianaGreen   Feb-29-08 03:31 PM   #139 
  - What do you mean her and Obama's efforts? This threat of lawsuit is all Hillary's  JackORoses   Feb-29-08 03:43 PM   #144 
     - Please Learn How To Read.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-29-08 03:58 PM   #153 
        - wrong, one side is defending the rules as they are  JackORoses   Feb-29-08 05:44 PM   #162 
  - Your honor, I move that this court declare that  Fire_brand   Feb-29-08 08:56 AM   #94 
  - article says BOTH camps are considering legal options  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:07 AM   #102 
     - And it says Clinton's is the only camp that's been threatening lawsuits.  Occam Bandage   Feb-29-08 10:41 AM   #122 
  - NPR: Texas system has been in place since 1972!  TheZug   Feb-29-08 09:00 AM   #95 
  - But why isn't the real question being asked?  suston96   Feb-29-08 09:00 AM   #96 
  - Yes  blogslut   Feb-29-08 03:39 PM   #142 
  - Yes  tammywammy   Feb-29-08 03:43 PM   #145 
  - Just because her campaign didn't understand it  ericgtr   Feb-29-08 09:01 AM   #97 
  - Then why does it say that BOTH camps " have made it clear that they might consider legal options"  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:06 AM   #100 
  - "both campaigns have made it clear that they might consider legal options "  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:02 AM   #98 
  - I guess TX won't count (according to HRC's campaign) after Tuesday  rox63   Feb-29-08 09:06 AM   #101 
  - OP is FLAMEBAIT at best-read the entire article:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:10 AM   #103 
  - OP left out details--like this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:19 AM   #110 
  - No flame bait... I could only put 4 paragraphs...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 10:08 AM   #116 
  - They know they'll lose the caucuses. The electronic voting they can rig.  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 09:12 AM   #105 
  - Try reading the article before you spout off.  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:18 AM   #109 
     - 'Hillary Clinton raised the specter of an "imminent" lawsuit '?  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 09:22 AM   #111 
        - overinterpretation as is the OP  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 11:10 AM   #125 
  - Read what the Clinton spokes person said please:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:13 AM   #106 
  - "'Clinton's campaign at several times ... raised the specter of 'challenging the process,'  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 09:25 AM   #113 
  - It seems that more and more, we're playing "who do you believe--Clinton or everyone else?"  Occam Bandage   Feb-29-08 10:40 AM   #121 
  - Hillary For Republican Nominee!!!  Kittycat   Feb-29-08 09:27 AM   #114 
  - Bien jou, Hill. Like a true rethug.  stillrockin   Feb-29-08 10:09 AM   #117 
  - Why wasn't the Clinton campaign fighting this stuff a year ago  high density   Feb-29-08 10:43 AM   #123 
  - She was supposed to have the nomination wrapped up on Super Tuesday.  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 12:46 PM   #132 
  - Hillary seems to want lawyers to tell us who the nominee should be...  Obamaniac   Feb-29-08 11:00 AM   #124 
  - The Clinton's looking at the polls and deciding to change the rules in the 4th quarter.  book_worm   Feb-29-08 11:17 AM   #127 
  - I really don't get why her campaign pulls this stuff  NoBorders   Feb-29-08 11:41 AM   #128 
  - "...representatives of the NY senator's campaign had issued veiled threats in a telephone call ..."  seafan   Feb-29-08 11:44 AM   #129 
  - This is how machines operate.  Orsino   Feb-29-08 12:09 PM   #131 
  - It is absolute insanity to expect to report caucus signins on Tuesday night  Gman   Feb-29-08 12:58 PM   #133 
  - Method to the Clinton camp's madness - delay and disrupt the reporting of the delegate count (mydd)  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 01:13 PM   #134 
  - I heard an atty for the TX Dem Party on Ed Schultz say TX Dems are not happy w  mod mom   Feb-29-08 02:30 PM   #135 
  - A Ford Edsel is "complicated," but why wait til now to fix it? (nt)  SteveM   Feb-29-08 03:24 PM   #136 
  - Bush gave us Bush v. Gore. Hillary will give us Clinton v. DNC.  IndianaGreen   Feb-29-08 03:28 PM   #137 
  - HRC aka "Frustrated and Desperate"  RBInMaine   Feb-29-08 03:30 PM   #138 
  - If This Is True (or believed to be), Blowback On Clinton Will Be Huge... nt  rcsl1998   Feb-29-08 03:39 PM   #143 
  - Hillary wants to prove she's a lousy lawyer as well as a lousy candidate  TexasObserver   Feb-29-08 03:45 PM   #146 
  - how stupid are they?  adoraz   Feb-29-08 03:46 PM   #147 
  - You know what? Go ahead and sue, Hillary.  blogslut   Feb-29-08 03:47 PM   #148 
  - And this will help her...  dchill   Feb-29-08 03:47 PM   #149 
  - She'd better not try this.  backscatter712   Feb-29-08 03:48 PM   #151 
  - Desperation is an ugly thing, isn't it?  Maineman   Feb-29-08 04:06 PM   #155 
  - The more she does things like this...  butterfly77   Feb-29-08 04:53 PM   #158 
  - jeez wonder why people think she's a duplicitous scumbag  natrat   Feb-29-08 04:53 PM   #159 
  - Self delete...  golddigger   Feb-29-08 05:30 PM   #160 
  - These kind of tactics not only make Clinton look like a spoil sport, it may wreck the party.  Emillereid   Feb-29-08 05:55 PM   #163 
  - Jeeze, has someone threatened Hillary with her life if she didn't win this election?  graywarrior   Feb-29-08 06:04 PM   #164 
  - You lose all rights to claim the msm is lying later on when you  tmoore411   Feb-29-08 06:44 PM   #166 
  - Sounds to me like you HAVE made up your mind.  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 07:29 PM   #181 
     - Then you don't know Texas very well  tmoore411   Feb-29-08 09:52 PM   #189 
        - So, pretty much you lied about not deciding who you were going  mckeown1128   Mar-01-08 07:54 AM   #199 
  - No wonder the Clintonistas in my county  WolverineDG   Feb-29-08 07:12 PM   #168 
  - Know your facts before you spout off:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:20 PM   #174 
     - so why was the clinton spokesperson so quoted? n/t  WolverineDG   Feb-29-08 07:22 PM   #176 
  - Now there's a Rovian tactic: if you can't win with votes, try to sue your way to victory. Typical.  apocalypsehow   Feb-29-08 07:14 PM   #169 
  - And it is typical of you NOT to read before you spout off!--read this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:19 PM   #173 
     - Take your own advice.  tabasco   Feb-29-08 07:24 PM   #178 
  - "Spokesmen for both campaigns said there were no plans to sue ahead of the March 4 election."  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:17 PM   #171 
  - Clinton campaign in particular had warned of a lawsuit.  tabasco   Feb-29-08 07:25 PM   #179 
  - from someone not authorized to speak. get a grip. Neither camp wants a suit before march 4  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 08:13 PM   #184 
  - Here--read this before you make yourself look more foolish:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:32 PM   #182 
  - FUCKING APPALLING  stop the bleeding   Feb-29-08 07:25 PM   #180 
  - Fricking APPALING THAT YOU CAN NOT READ!=see this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 08:15 PM   #185 
     - uh-oh  stillcool47   Mar-01-08 12:46 AM   #197 
  - Good, any effort undertaken to undercut the inherently undemocratic caucus system  Tarc   Feb-29-08 07:57 PM   #183 
  - More of "Anything to Win"  sloppyjoe25s   Feb-29-08 08:20 PM   #186 
  - It's absolutely true. I've seen the memo on Daily Kos...  CaliforniaDreaming   Feb-29-08 11:58 PM   #192 
  - Wouldn't this HURT Hilary and drop her #'s -- I know if i'm Texan i'd be pissed and vote Obama  quantass   Mar-01-08 12:00 AM   #194 
  - agree to the rules?  jamesinca   Mar-01-08 12:16 AM   #195 
  - Again?  stillcool47   Mar-01-08 12:22 AM   #196 
  - Cut It Out!  Raejeanowl   Mar-01-08 12:55 AM   #198 
  - "Spokesmen for both campaigns said there were no plans to sue ahead of the March 4 election."  rodeodance   Mar-01-08 07:57 AM   #200 
  - And Obama Sued to Win His First Election...wipped out 4 opponents and ran unopposed  ElsewheresDaughter   Mar-01-08 08:03 AM   #201 
  - I thought he challenged signatures...  stillcool47   Mar-01-08 10:25 AM   #203 
  - Billary merely prolonging defeat, this defeat is a harsh blow to both Bill and Hil...Bill Clinton  Imagevision   Mar-01-08 08:04 AM   #202 
  - Another sad chapter to the many sad chapters of the worse run presidential campaign ever  zulchzulu   Mar-01-08 10:28 AM   #204 
  - Calling Van Helsing!!  TexasObserver   Mar-01-08 10:30 AM   #205 
 

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