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76. More from TPM and politico...
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 08:28 AM by jefferson_dem
Suing Texas?

On a conference call earlier this week, Clinton field director Guy Cecil reportedly took a hard enough line on the Texas caucuses that the Texas Democratic Party sent a letter (.pdf) to both campaigns warning that any lawsuit would be a "tragedy" that could "cripple the momentum of a resurging Texas Democratic Party."

Caucuses in the past have been chaotic and overcrowded. I was told by a participant in the call that Clinton's representative specifically refused to agree in advance to moving elements of the process outdoors if the caucuses sites are over capacity.

Moments like this always have two sides: The substantive, legal one; and the political side. And whatever the substance, you can be sure the reported litigation threat will be an Obama talking point in the run-up to the election. /

Report: Clinton Camp Threatened Lawsuit Over Texas Primary/Caucus
By Eric Kleefeld - February 29, 2008, 8:53AM

The Texas Democratic Party has taken an interesting step for the upcoming hybrid primary/caucus: Asking the campaigns not to sue. "It has been brought to my attention that one or both of your campaigns may already be planning or intending to pursue litigation against the Texas Democratic Party," wrote party attorney Chad Dunn in a letter. "Such action could prove to be a tragedy for a reinvigorated Democratic process."

According to party officials speaking under anonymity, the threat of a lawsuit has come from the Clinton campaign, during a conference call between the party and the campaigns. "Officials from Sen. Clinton's campaign at several times throughout the call raised the specter of 'challenging the process,'" according to one source.

Adrienne Elrod, spokeswoman for the Hillary campaign in Texas, denied the allegation and said the campaign was merely seeking a written agreement. "It is our campaign's standard operating procedure that we need to see what we are agreeing to in writing before we agree to it," Elrod said. "No legal action is being taken. We have no reason to take any legal action."

It's not clear what the campaign would be threatening to sue over, nor what issues are/were the subject of negotiations between the campaigns and the Texas Dems. We'll have more information soon.
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  -Breaking: Texas Dems warn of Clinton lawsuit that could shut down caucuses!!! mckeown1128  Feb-29-08 12:23 AM   #0 
  - Disgusting.  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:24 AM   #1 
  - why only 1 recommend? Kicked and recommended, this should go on front page!  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 12:54 AM   #33 
  - won't recommend without proof...  WHAT   Feb-29-08 01:37 AM   #45 
  - The Clinton campaign officially denied the threat.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 06:51 AM   #59 
     - Their denial doesn't take away the written memo. nt  CaliforniaDreaming   Feb-29-08 11:59 PM   #193 
  - Obama challenged every state in which he lost--and you are complaining about  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-29-08 08:38 AM   #81 
  - Judging from New York precinct results ...  BearSquirrel2   Feb-29-08 05:40 PM   #161 
  - typical--condemn before you read the entire article:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:15 AM   #107 
  - Hillary will do ANYTHING to win. She's bad news.*  PITBOS   Feb-29-08 09:37 PM   #188 
  - Last I looked, Texans hated lawyers getting in the way of anything  BeyondGeography   Feb-29-08 12:25 AM   #2 
  - Master plan Penn?  FrenchieCat   Feb-29-08 12:26 AM   #3 
     - Sarcasm now included  BeyondGeography   Feb-29-08 12:27 AM   #5 
  - unnamed sources and of course it is always HRC that is  BenDavid   Feb-29-08 12:26 AM   #4 
  - Well, last time I checked, the only one with a problem with caucuses  The Anti-Bush   Feb-29-08 12:29 AM   #7 
  - yep.  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:31 AM   #12 
  - The Texas Democratic Party...isn't a reliable source...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:29 AM   #8 
  - Caucuses aren't exactly Clinton's strong suit.  anonymous171   Feb-29-08 12:30 AM   #9 
  - The sun is setting...on Hillary. She did it herself to herself. Worst campaign in my lifetime, and  John Q. Citizen   Feb-29-08 12:34 AM   #16 
  - me too,  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:35 AM   #18 
  - Yes, I'm in my 50s and I will  Jawja   Feb-29-08 06:51 AM   #60 
  - I'm over 60 and it is the most disappointing campaign  goclark   Feb-29-08 03:52 PM   #152 
  - If she were so great this wouldn't  zidzi   Feb-29-08 07:18 PM   #172 
  - Mark Penn and the Clintons are really taking the low roads at every opportunity now.  David Zephyr   Feb-29-08 11:46 AM   #130 
  - why would Obama have incentive to do this????????  LSK   Feb-29-08 10:13 AM   #119 
  - Please tell me this isn't true.  The Anti-Bush   Feb-29-08 12:28 AM   #6 
  - The threat of suing is probably true...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:30 AM   #10 
  - The CLinton camp officially denied the threat to sue, said no legal action needed.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 06:52 AM   #61 
  - umm... I did read the article... and I even stated that BOTH  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 07:43 AM   #66 
  - The Clinton camp is as credible as the Bush White House  IndianaGreen   Feb-29-08 04:14 PM   #156 
     - I can't say I disagree with you.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 04:47 PM   #157 
  - I expect it was a threat, as a trial balloon ...  krkaufman   Feb-29-08 11:43 PM   #191 
  - READ the article-  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:17 AM   #108 
  - If one actually reads the article it's both campaigns disagreeing on the rules  ruggerson   Feb-29-08 12:30 AM   #11 
  - that is why i posted that both campaigns have a problem with the rules.  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:31 AM   #13 
  - I doubt there will be any lawsuit  ruggerson   Feb-29-08 12:33 AM   #14 
  - McClatchy Papers are thorough and careful  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 01:02 AM   #36 
     - This is all over the Texas Papers.. Austin, Dallas,, Ft Worth, etc..  K Gardner   Feb-29-08 08:08 AM   #73 
        - Good!  Yael   Feb-29-08 08:35 AM   #79 
  - but you posted overzealous interpretations of what transpired  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:11 AM   #104 
  - .  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:37 AM   #19 
  - .  ruggerson   Feb-29-08 12:43 AM   #26 
  - I wish people would read the article.  tekisui   Feb-29-08 06:49 AM   #57 
     - Read THIS article! Houston Chronicle  catgirl   Feb-29-08 07:59 AM   # 
  - I hope this is heavily reported in Texas.  loveangelc   Feb-29-08 12:33 AM   #15 
  - It should be... all the major newspapers endorsed Obama...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 12:34 AM   #17 
  - The girl who can't dance claims the band can't play,  Old Crusoe   Feb-29-08 12:38 AM   #20 
  - sad, no?  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:38 AM   #22 
     - Hi, BBDB. I don't know what's going on down in Texas in these  Old Crusoe   Feb-29-08 12:40 AM   #23 
        - I was kind of thinking the same thing,  BringBigDogBack   Feb-29-08 12:43 AM   #25 
  - Oh, nothing these people do surprise me anymore.  GoreVidalIsGod   Feb-29-08 12:38 AM   #21 
  - What I wonder is, if either Clinton or Obama have a problem with  SeattleGirl   Feb-29-08 12:40 AM   #24 
  - Obama pities the fool who messes with Texas!!!  JackORoses   Feb-29-08 12:45 AM   #27 
  - interesting  bigbrother05   Feb-29-08 12:47 AM   #28 
  - Goddammit this better not be true!  bluestateguy   Feb-29-08 12:48 AM   #29 
  - Oh God  ArizonaJosie   Feb-29-08 12:49 AM   #30 
  - Hiya, ArizonaJosie!  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 06:50 AM   #58 
     - Thank you!  ArizonaJosie   Feb-29-08 04:03 PM   #154 
  - Her motives would be so self evident...  RiverStone   Feb-29-08 12:51 AM   #31 
  - This must be the "Anything to Win" Hillary - Election Fraud part of Kitchen Sink  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 12:51 AM   #32 
  - Good. Caucuses are a sham  jackson_dem   Feb-29-08 12:59 AM   #34 
  - Change the rules mid-race! Yay! If she does this, her future will rightfully be destroyed in the Dem  GarbagemanLB   Feb-29-08 01:00 AM   #35 
  - Hillary - ready to whine and cheat on day one.  NormaR   Feb-29-08 01:35 AM   #41 
  - dont forget her advisor Mark Penn is with same firm that advises McCain  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 01:59 AM   #48 
     - And The New World Order  BecauseBushSaysSo   Feb-29-08 07:09 PM   #167 
  - says both camps are involved in negotiating the rules. Read before you spout!  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:22 AM   #112 
  - Yeah. Citizens gathering together and telling others who they support and why...  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:26 AM   #77 
  - Bill didn't whine about Texas rules when he ran  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 07:15 PM   #170 
  - Then Hillary should have challenged the caucus system before  EvolveOrConvolve   Feb-29-08 07:22 PM   #177 
  - First we support it. Then we understand it. Then we sue to change it.  Kristi1696   Feb-29-08 01:02 AM   #37 
  - wtf, is this primary getting ready to become a complete disaster?  meow mix   Feb-29-08 01:07 AM   #38 
  - I support Hillary 100%. She speaks for me!  jlake   Feb-29-08 01:32 AM   #39 
  - is that a joke?  NormaR   Feb-29-08 01:36 AM   #42 
  - Where was she when the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen????????  NormaR   Feb-29-08 01:36 AM   #43 
     - Where was she when the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen????????  metamars   Feb-29-08 06:43 PM   #165 
  - 5 more days  Yael   Feb-29-08 08:38 AM   #82 
  - "I had no idea how bizarre it is. We have grown men crying over it."  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:42 AM   #84 
  - what makes this especially despicable, if true  JustinL   Feb-29-08 01:33 AM   #40 
  - So she knew about the system, but was unprepared for it because  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 06:54 AM   #63 
  - Good catch...JustinL  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-29-08 09:48 AM   #115 
  - IF?--no --NOT true--both camps say if suits NOT until after March 4--see this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:21 PM   # 
  - And wow, the high level of respect I had for Hillary in 2007 and before had dwindled....  Political Heretic   Feb-29-08 01:37 AM   #44 
  - Funny how Texas has been so hated for delivering bush and for just being Texas  judaspriestess   Feb-29-08 01:39 AM   #46 
  - Well, you win the award for weakest attack on Obama supporters...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 07:56 AM   #67 
  - Can't win em, break the rules  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-29-08 01:57 AM   #47 
  - Oops, here's another one about it.  Major Hogwash   Feb-29-08 02:43 AM   #49 
  - Sounds good to me...she should work the legal system for all it's worth.  CyberPieHole   Feb-29-08 02:45 AM   #50 
  - Like B*sh and Harris worked the legal system in 2000?  harun   Feb-29-08 06:37 AM   #55 
  - I agree, that whole "voting" thing is *definitely* not working out.  billyoc   Feb-29-08 07:01 AM   #65 
  - Yeah! FUCK DEMOCRACY!!! Let whoever can afford the best lawyers run the country!  cui bono   Feb-29-08 09:27 PM   #187 
  - Obama is ready  grantcart   Feb-29-08 03:14 AM   #51 
  - I suspect this is just another idea Penn and Wolfson are floating to gauge reaction.  Tatiana   Feb-29-08 03:44 AM   #52 
  - For cryin' out loud, desperation, thy name is Clinton? This is beyond  babylonsister   Feb-29-08 06:34 AM   #53 
  - We already knew that the Clintons do not think rules apply to them.  Mass   Feb-29-08 06:36 AM   #54 
  - I'd think long and hard before "George Bushing" my way into the WH  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 06:47 AM   #56 
  - kick.  jakem   Feb-29-08 06:52 AM   #62 
  - it'd be devastating for her  nlb   Feb-29-08 06:58 AM   #64 
  - Wow. The Clintons are literally going to shut down democracy if they think it won't go their way.  Occam Bandage   Feb-29-08 07:56 AM   #68 
  - seems to me the article said it could be clinton or you are assuming alot!  flyarm   Feb-29-08 08:48 AM   #87 
  - Clinton becomes more like Bush every day. This is something he and Rove would pull.  sparosnare   Feb-29-08 07:59 AM   #69 
  - Clinton is already Bush in a Pantsuit. Who are you kidding?  Independent-Voter   Feb-29-08 08:00 AM   #70 
  - Clinton seeks WRITTEN AGREEMENT in advance of Texas Caucus  K Gardner   Feb-29-08 08:04 AM   #71 
  - WTF  WolverineDG   Feb-29-08 07:21 PM   #175 
  - JAMES BAKER TO REPRESENT CLINTONS!!!  Pryderi   Feb-29-08 08:06 AM   #72 
  - Next they'll orchestrate a "riot" of "citizens" (aka Hillary staffers)  Oregonian   Feb-29-08 03:48 PM   #150 
  - This was just reported on MSNBC and Chuck Todd verified  K Gardner   Feb-29-08 08:10 AM   #74 
  - It's too late, Hillary. There's nothing left in you that I can live with.  Pryderi   Feb-29-08 08:12 AM   #75 
  - More from TPM and politico...  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:24 AM   #76 
  - She's right -- voting is just another name for discrimination!  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 08:30 AM   #78 
  - Hillary: *Votes* don't count.  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 08:37 AM   #80 
  - Good night, Hilly!  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 08:39 AM   #83 
  - clinton is ripping us to shreds  dempartisan23   Feb-29-08 08:43 AM   #85 
  - TX is fucked up only 100 of the 200+ delegates are awarded on Tuesday the rest not until June caucus  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-29-08 08:44 AM   #86 
  - Too bad it's been set up this way for decades  tammywammy   Feb-29-08 03:34 PM   #140 
  - They just reported this on MSNBC...I think this could  my3boyz   Feb-29-08 08:48 AM   #88 
  - hillary has delared war on the democrat party  dempartisan23   Feb-29-08 08:50 AM   #89 
     - DemocratIC Party.  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 08:53 AM   #92 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Feb-29-08 08:51 AM   #90 
  - I Applaud Her And Obama's Efforts With This. The Caucus System There Is A Disgrace.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-29-08 08:51 AM   #91 
  - no kidding...that system is not democratic and it is a sham! and a shame. eom  flyarm   Feb-29-08 08:54 AM   #93 
  - Yes as it says-"both campaigns have made it clear that they might consider legal options"  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:04 AM   #99 
  - It's not the argument it is the timing...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 10:12 AM   #118 
  - What Is Right Remains Right, Despite Timing Or Intent.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-29-08 11:16 AM   #126 
     - Them's the rules. You can't go changing them just because you see trouble ahead.  cui bono   Feb-29-08 11:00 PM   #190 
  - Excuse me? We've been using it for TWENTY YEARS.  crispini   Feb-29-08 10:15 AM   #120 
  - Thank you Crispini  tammywammy   Feb-29-08 03:35 PM   #141 
  - Bill Clinton won the Texas prima-caucus in '92 and '96. Hillary didn't bitch about it!  IndianaGreen   Feb-29-08 03:31 PM   #139 
  - What do you mean her and Obama's efforts? This threat of lawsuit is all Hillary's  JackORoses   Feb-29-08 03:43 PM   #144 
     - Please Learn How To Read.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-29-08 03:58 PM   #153 
        - wrong, one side is defending the rules as they are  JackORoses   Feb-29-08 05:44 PM   #162 
  - Your honor, I move that this court declare that  Fire_brand   Feb-29-08 08:56 AM   #94 
  - article says BOTH camps are considering legal options  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:07 AM   #102 
     - And it says Clinton's is the only camp that's been threatening lawsuits.  Occam Bandage   Feb-29-08 10:41 AM   #122 
  - NPR: Texas system has been in place since 1972!  TheZug   Feb-29-08 09:00 AM   #95 
  - But why isn't the real question being asked?  suston96   Feb-29-08 09:00 AM   #96 
  - Yes  blogslut   Feb-29-08 03:39 PM   #142 
  - Yes  tammywammy   Feb-29-08 03:43 PM   #145 
  - Just because her campaign didn't understand it  ericgtr   Feb-29-08 09:01 AM   #97 
  - Then why does it say that BOTH camps " have made it clear that they might consider legal options"  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:06 AM   #100 
  - "both campaigns have made it clear that they might consider legal options "  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:02 AM   #98 
  - I guess TX won't count (according to HRC's campaign) after Tuesday  rox63   Feb-29-08 09:06 AM   #101 
  - OP is FLAMEBAIT at best-read the entire article:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:10 AM   #103 
  - OP left out details--like this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:19 AM   #110 
  - No flame bait... I could only put 4 paragraphs...  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 10:08 AM   #116 
  - They know they'll lose the caucuses. The electronic voting they can rig.  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 09:12 AM   #105 
  - Try reading the article before you spout off.  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:18 AM   #109 
     - 'Hillary Clinton raised the specter of an "imminent" lawsuit '?  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 09:22 AM   #111 
        - overinterpretation as is the OP  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 11:10 AM   #125 
  - Read what the Clinton spokes person said please:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 09:13 AM   #106 
  - "'Clinton's campaign at several times ... raised the specter of 'challenging the process,'  dailykoff   Feb-29-08 09:25 AM   #113 
  - It seems that more and more, we're playing "who do you believe--Clinton or everyone else?"  Occam Bandage   Feb-29-08 10:40 AM   #121 
  - Hillary For Republican Nominee!!!  Kittycat   Feb-29-08 09:27 AM   #114 
  - Bien jou, Hill. Like a true rethug.  stillrockin   Feb-29-08 10:09 AM   #117 
  - Why wasn't the Clinton campaign fighting this stuff a year ago  high density   Feb-29-08 10:43 AM   #123 
  - She was supposed to have the nomination wrapped up on Super Tuesday.  No Surrender   Feb-29-08 12:46 PM   #132 
  - Hillary seems to want lawyers to tell us who the nominee should be...  Obamaniac   Feb-29-08 11:00 AM   #124 
  - The Clinton's looking at the polls and deciding to change the rules in the 4th quarter.  book_worm   Feb-29-08 11:17 AM   #127 
  - I really don't get why her campaign pulls this stuff  NoBorders   Feb-29-08 11:41 AM   #128 
  - "...representatives of the NY senator's campaign had issued veiled threats in a telephone call ..."  seafan   Feb-29-08 11:44 AM   #129 
  - This is how machines operate.  Orsino   Feb-29-08 12:09 PM   #131 
  - It is absolute insanity to expect to report caucus signins on Tuesday night  Gman   Feb-29-08 12:58 PM   #133 
  - Method to the Clinton camp's madness - delay and disrupt the reporting of the delegate count (mydd)  jefferson_dem   Feb-29-08 01:13 PM   #134 
  - I heard an atty for the TX Dem Party on Ed Schultz say TX Dems are not happy w  mod mom   Feb-29-08 02:30 PM   #135 
  - A Ford Edsel is "complicated," but why wait til now to fix it? (nt)  SteveM   Feb-29-08 03:24 PM   #136 
  - Bush gave us Bush v. Gore. Hillary will give us Clinton v. DNC.  IndianaGreen   Feb-29-08 03:28 PM   #137 
  - HRC aka "Frustrated and Desperate"  RBInMaine   Feb-29-08 03:30 PM   #138 
  - If This Is True (or believed to be), Blowback On Clinton Will Be Huge... nt  rcsl1998   Feb-29-08 03:39 PM   #143 
  - Hillary wants to prove she's a lousy lawyer as well as a lousy candidate  TexasObserver   Feb-29-08 03:45 PM   #146 
  - how stupid are they?  adoraz   Feb-29-08 03:46 PM   #147 
  - You know what? Go ahead and sue, Hillary.  blogslut   Feb-29-08 03:47 PM   #148 
  - And this will help her...  dchill   Feb-29-08 03:47 PM   #149 
  - She'd better not try this.  backscatter712   Feb-29-08 03:48 PM   #151 
  - Desperation is an ugly thing, isn't it?  Maineman   Feb-29-08 04:06 PM   #155 
  - The more she does things like this...  butterfly77   Feb-29-08 04:53 PM   #158 
  - jeez wonder why people think she's a duplicitous scumbag  natrat   Feb-29-08 04:53 PM   #159 
  - Self delete...  golddigger   Feb-29-08 05:30 PM   #160 
  - These kind of tactics not only make Clinton look like a spoil sport, it may wreck the party.  Emillereid   Feb-29-08 05:55 PM   #163 
  - Jeeze, has someone threatened Hillary with her life if she didn't win this election?  graywarrior   Feb-29-08 06:04 PM   #164 
  - You lose all rights to claim the msm is lying later on when you  tmoore411   Feb-29-08 06:44 PM   #166 
  - Sounds to me like you HAVE made up your mind.  mckeown1128   Feb-29-08 07:29 PM   #181 
     - Then you don't know Texas very well  tmoore411   Feb-29-08 09:52 PM   #189 
        - So, pretty much you lied about not deciding who you were going  mckeown1128   Mar-01-08 07:54 AM   #199 
  - No wonder the Clintonistas in my county  WolverineDG   Feb-29-08 07:12 PM   #168 
  - Know your facts before you spout off:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:20 PM   #174 
     - so why was the clinton spokesperson so quoted? n/t  WolverineDG   Feb-29-08 07:22 PM   #176 
  - Now there's a Rovian tactic: if you can't win with votes, try to sue your way to victory. Typical.  apocalypsehow   Feb-29-08 07:14 PM   #169 
  - And it is typical of you NOT to read before you spout off!--read this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:19 PM   #173 
     - Take your own advice.  tabasco   Feb-29-08 07:24 PM   #178 
  - "Spokesmen for both campaigns said there were no plans to sue ahead of the March 4 election."  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:17 PM   #171 
  - Clinton campaign in particular had warned of a lawsuit.  tabasco   Feb-29-08 07:25 PM   #179 
  - from someone not authorized to speak. get a grip. Neither camp wants a suit before march 4  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 08:13 PM   #184 
  - Here--read this before you make yourself look more foolish:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 07:32 PM   #182 
  - FUCKING APPALLING  stop the bleeding   Feb-29-08 07:25 PM   #180 
  - Fricking APPALING THAT YOU CAN NOT READ!=see this:  rodeodance   Feb-29-08 08:15 PM   #185 
     - uh-oh  stillcool47   Mar-01-08 12:46 AM   #197 
  - Good, any effort undertaken to undercut the inherently undemocratic caucus system  Tarc   Feb-29-08 07:57 PM   #183 
  - More of "Anything to Win"  sloppyjoe25s   Feb-29-08 08:20 PM   #186 
  - It's absolutely true. I've seen the memo on Daily Kos...  CaliforniaDreaming   Feb-29-08 11:58 PM   #192 
  - Wouldn't this HURT Hilary and drop her #'s -- I know if i'm Texan i'd be pissed and vote Obama  quantass   Mar-01-08 12:00 AM   #194 
  - agree to the rules?  jamesinca   Mar-01-08 12:16 AM   #195 
  - Again?  stillcool47   Mar-01-08 12:22 AM   #196 
  - Cut It Out!  Raejeanowl   Mar-01-08 12:55 AM   #198 
  - "Spokesmen for both campaigns said there were no plans to sue ahead of the March 4 election."  rodeodance   Mar-01-08 07:57 AM   #200 
  - And Obama Sued to Win His First Election...wipped out 4 opponents and ran unopposed  ElsewheresDaughter   Mar-01-08 08:03 AM   #201 
  - I thought he challenged signatures...  stillcool47   Mar-01-08 10:25 AM   #203 
  - Billary merely prolonging defeat, this defeat is a harsh blow to both Bill and Hil...Bill Clinton  Imagevision   Mar-01-08 08:04 AM   #202 
  - Another sad chapter to the many sad chapters of the worse run presidential campaign ever  zulchzulu   Mar-01-08 10:28 AM   #204 
  - Calling Van Helsing!!  TexasObserver   Mar-01-08 10:30 AM   #205 

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