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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:53 PM
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108. Interesting how some will quote Chomsky on the need to vote...
...yet ignore him when he accurately describes the fact that corporations control both parties.

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  -Check out Chomsky's blog for his position re: this election nothingshocksmeanymore  Mar-26-04 01:06 AM   #0 
  - I guess now some people will say Chomsky is a tool of Corporate America  bluestateguy   Mar-26-04 01:11 AM   #1 
  - Actually  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 01:19 AM   #2 
  - I didn't get that at all.  JDStutts   Mar-26-04 01:34 AM   #3 
     - Yes that's what he said  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-26-04 01:44 AM   #4 
     - I just love the words "seems to be saying"  sangh0   Mar-26-04 09:04 AM   #15 
     - Isn't everyone tired of "march in lockstep" by now?  RandomKoolzip   Mar-26-04 09:36 AM   #19 
     - Yep  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 02:02 AM   #5 
     - did he really, or is that merely your projection?  kodi   Mar-26-04 02:06 AM   #6 
     - Put it on pause  zulchzulu   Mar-26-04 02:15 AM   #7 
     - Maybe I'm thinking of another vote.  JDStutts   Mar-26-04 02:22 AM   #8 
        - "gave B*sh all the cover he needed to invade Iraq "????  sangh0   Mar-26-04 09:07 AM   #16 
     - ?  ulysses   Mar-26-04 05:31 AM   #10 
     - I think he just said hold your nose and vote against bush, actually  redqueen   Mar-26-04 09:40 AM   #20 
        - Sorry my friend, I think the point is FAR more salient and is  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:13 AM   #30 
        - I think his blog proves Chomsky is sane.  saywhat   Mar-26-04 11:11 AM   #57 
  - Chomsky is ignorant  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 05:19 AM   #9 
  - No, Chomsky knows where its at  Vladimir   Mar-26-04 06:07 AM   #12 
  - Chomsky Knows How to Discourage the Left  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 08:47 AM   #14 
  - discourage the left??  ZombyWoof   Mar-26-04 10:01 AM   #25 
  - Discourage the Left  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 10:44 AM   #39 
  - I disagree entirely  Vladimir   Mar-26-04 10:39 AM   #36 
     - Just more thoughts...  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 12:28 PM   #77 
        - Fair enough  Vladimir   Mar-26-04 12:38 PM   #78 
           - Fair Enough  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 12:55 PM   #80 
  - Best. Post. Ever.  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:28 AM   #34 
     - Interesting how some will quote Chomsky on the need to vote...  Zhade   Mar-26-04 09:53 PM   #108 
  - Wish I'd said that! I'm a DK Democrat who is befuddled by  blondeatlast   Mar-26-04 07:58 AM   #13 
  - You're the one being unaware -- see my post #17, below. (nt)  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 09:22 AM   #18 
     - Unawareness?  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 09:59 AM   #24 
  - I guess we learn something every day.  Kerryfan   Mar-26-04 10:15 AM   #31 
     - : ) Politics is at least 3D  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 12:58 PM   #81 
        - Thought is 3 dimensional.  info being   Mar-26-04 04:08 PM   #101 
  - Yikes! Check out  charlie   Mar-26-04 05:43 AM   #11 
  - I had to WADE through the thread to get to this..YIKES is right  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 04:45 PM   #104 
  - Those railing against Kerry are betraying the "margins of society"  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 09:21 AM   #17 
  - "I mean, it's almost Orwellian!"  redqueen   Mar-26-04 09:45 AM   #21 
  - redqueen, I think you're missing a vital piece of Chomsky's argument  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:05 AM   #26 
  - Grassroots  redqueen   Mar-26-04 10:45 AM   #40 
  - In the words of Ronnie Raygun, "There you go again..."  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:51 AM   #46 
     - Issues, of course  redqueen   Mar-26-04 10:58 AM   #52 
        - Party politicos at fundraisers have nothing to do with issues!  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:06 AM   #54 
           - *sigh*  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:14 AM   #59 
              - sigh, yourself  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:22 AM   #62 
                 - I'm not saying *I* dont' see the need to evict the usurper  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:30 AM   #64 
                    - But what you are doing right now is *gambling*, redqueen  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:36 AM   #67 
                       - Am I?  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:52 AM   #71 
                          - Yes you are, and that denial was very disingenous  sangh0   Mar-26-04 04:29 PM   #103 
  - Yes, yes and yes again  Vladimir   Mar-26-04 10:45 AM   #42 
     - "We as activists"  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:01 AM   #53 
        - Then get out there and do something for the nominee!!!  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:08 AM   #55 
        - I'm in Texas, IC  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:16 AM   #60 
           - Do you at least find openings on issues down there?  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:47 AM   #69 
              - Yes, and I do that  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:54 AM   #72 
        - I'm not trying to convert  Vladimir   Mar-26-04 11:43 AM   #68 
  - What anti-leftist rhetoric?  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-26-04 10:08 AM   #27 
  - Nothing to see here. Move along.  blondeatlast   Mar-26-04 09:50 AM   #22 
  - The Margins of Society?  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 09:56 AM   #23 
  - he DID support DK  ZombyWoof   Mar-26-04 10:08 AM   #28 
  - What I am concerned about is Unity without Representation  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 11:33 AM   #65 
  - Your background on this subject is duly noted  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:09 AM   #29 
     - About tactics  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 11:55 AM   #73 
  - Actually Chris, there are CERTAIN segments on the far left  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:20 AM   #32 
  - I'm not sure I'm seeing your point on the housing issue, Teena  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:27 AM   #33 
  - The point is that THIS form of socialized housing  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:42 AM   #37 
     - OK, now I see your point  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:46 AM   #43 
        - NOT quite the point I was making  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:50 AM   #45 
           - OK, NOW I see where you are going with this  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:53 AM   #47 
              - It is one area where I do tend to lean tinfoilish  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:57 AM   #51 
                 - Believe me, Teena -- I can tinfoil with the best of em!  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:11 AM   #58 
  - Then what do you think about?  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 12:13 PM   #75 
     - Oh please...no I have no problem with this...if they got solar power in  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 06:44 PM   #105 
  - I think you're overstating the case, at least in your subject line.  RichM   Mar-26-04 10:29 AM   #35 
     - No, Rich -- I think it's you who doesn't have a case in this instance  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 10:42 AM   #38 
     - "...the issues I believe in, and that DK championed. "  redqueen   Mar-26-04 10:54 AM   #49 
        - Yeah, he's still championing them -- to the already converted  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:09 AM   #56 
           - Yer killin' me!  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:19 AM   #61 
              - Percentage vs. turnout  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:24 AM   #63 
                 - I hate guessing games, so I checked  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:35 AM   #66 
                    - The way I see this...  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 11:51 AM   #70 
                       - But you still think he was just preaching to the choir?  redqueen   Mar-26-04 11:57 AM   #74 
                          - Not totally, no. But I still think there's a danger you're ignoring.  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 12:21 PM   #76 
                             - Last week I'd have thought they'd follow DK's lead and vote Dem  redqueen   Mar-26-04 12:42 PM   #79 
     - Oh I think he made that point here  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:45 AM   #41 
        - Good post  ACK   Mar-26-04 10:47 AM   #44 
           - Thanks it isn't so much running into as running over  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 10:56 AM   #50 
              - Right! People talk like Kerry is some DLC puppet conservative  ACK   Mar-26-04 01:07 PM   #83 
                 - Well, this struck me...  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 01:21 PM   #85 
                    - You won't be satisfied regardless....  nothingshocksmeanymore   Mar-26-04 01:43 PM   #86 
                    - I'll be satisfied if the this Imperialist Crap Stops  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 02:13 PM   #90 
                       - So, basically what you're saying is...  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 02:17 PM   #92 
                          - We should have Authority over the Government  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 02:36 PM   #95 
                             - I don't think you're dictatorial for opposing war  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 02:47 PM   #96 
                                - I apologize for My inflexibility  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 03:40 PM   #99 
                    - single issue voter.  ACK   Mar-26-04 01:57 PM   #87 
                       - No, not quite.  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 02:03 PM   #89 
                          - yeah - there are alot of things I don't like about Kerry  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 02:22 PM   #93 
                             - OK, so what's your plan then  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 02:33 PM   #94 
                                - To answer some of your inquiries.  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 02:57 PM   #97 
                                   - You're not telling me anything I don't already know  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 03:06 PM   #98 
                                      - I've heard it all before....  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 04:17 PM   #102 
  - Wow. He's EXACTLY RIGHT!  mzmolly   Mar-26-04 10:54 AM   #48 
  - But you have to realize  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 01:02 PM   #82 
     - But what you're raising is the question of "ignored by whom?"  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 01:15 PM   #84 
        - The Grassroots of the Party?  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 02:02 PM   #88 
           - Who are the grassroots you're referring to here?  IrateCitizen   Mar-26-04 02:14 PM   #91 
              - Grassroots?  WitchWay   Mar-26-04 04:05 PM   #100 
                 - Grassroots efforts could empower politicians  union_maid   Mar-26-04 09:20 PM   #106 
  - Good for Chomsky!  Darranar   Mar-26-04 09:32 PM   #107 
 

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