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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 05:27 PM
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16. Purely devil's advocate here...
As an atheist, I have always felt that it is legitimate to examine candidate's religious beliefs. They get a lot of benefit from spouting religiosity, so religion shouldn't be out of bounds.

Given that Obama's acknowledged spiritual mentor is a Farrakhan booster, the need for him to denounce... sorry, reject Farrakhan is more than just because Farrakhan is high profile. There is a slight, yet meaningful nexus between the two.

But that's just me... if the Methodist Church gave honors to Joe Blow, a white supremacist, I would want Hillary to denounce the Methodist Church, not just denounce Joe Blow.

I have no idea why Obama goes to his church. He says it was vital to his development as a man... it's not just the nearest church to his house. Since he presents that church, and Pastor Wright, as formative, they are open to some reasonable examination.

Essentially, Obama is saying that Farrakhan is a topic on which he and Pastor Wright have agreed to disagree.

To me, that's weak. But I don't cut religion any slack at all. Someone else could say it's the same as Kerry agreeing to disagree with the Pope on one thing or another. Fair enough.

None of this is meant to disagree with your statement that politicians are not responsible for un-sought endorsements. Obama is not responsible for Farrakhan, but it's no surprise, given the circumstances, that he is called on to distance himself.
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  -Bill Cunningham just endorsed Hillary on NPR cali  Feb-27-08 05:04 PM   #0 
  - I'm an Obama supporter and I agree.  knowledgeispwr   Feb-27-08 05:05 PM   #1 
  - Has she denounced AND rejected it yet? Why not? n/t  kirby   Feb-27-08 05:07 PM   #2 
  - Good point  ellacott   Feb-27-08 05:07 PM   #3 
  - Rush Limbaugh is advocating that Repubs in TX and OH vote for Hillary--  wienerdoggie   Feb-27-08 05:08 PM   #4 
  - I'll be waiting for her to take the podium and denounce and reject  FrenchieCat   Feb-27-08 05:08 PM   #5 
  - It sounds to me like it's  zidzi   Feb-27-08 05:20 PM   #15 
  - They've been playing a clip to that effect on MSNBC all day.  bunnies   Feb-27-08 05:09 PM   #6 
  - Did NPR interview him, or just play a clip of him talking to Sean Hannity? NT  Eric J in MN   Feb-27-08 05:09 PM   #7 
  - Robert Siegal interviewed him. He really is repulsive and incredibly  cali   Feb-27-08 05:11 PM   #10 
  - NPR basically gave him free airtime to spew his vomitous filth uninterrupted.  Tesha   Feb-27-08 05:44 PM   #23 
  - are endorsements really a big deal?  Cant trust em   Feb-27-08 05:09 PM   #8 
  - He did it last night on CNN and on his radio show - followed by "just kidding". eom  DURHAM D   Feb-27-08 05:11 PM   #9 
  - If you heard him on his radio show its was a pretty ridiculous endrosement  Political Heretic   Feb-27-08 05:11 PM   #11 
  - He's picking Hillary to make his point because she's the epitome of Liberalism to repukes  mtnsnake   Feb-27-08 05:11 PM   #12 
  - I agree- The candidates cannot control who supports them- and  Bluerthanblue   Feb-27-08 05:12 PM   #13 
  - I agree plus  Raine   Feb-27-08 05:15 PM   #14 
  - Purely devil's advocate here...  Kurt_and_Hunter   Feb-27-08 05:27 PM   #16 
  - What? You'd want Hillary to denounce the Methodist Church  cali   Feb-27-08 05:33 PM   #18 
     - Sorry, I was being broad in saying "The Methodist Church"  Kurt_and_Hunter   Feb-27-08 05:45 PM   #24 
  - At least  Mme. Defarge   Feb-27-08 05:30 PM   #17 
  - Self-serving asshats...  Kristi1696   Feb-27-08 05:34 PM   #19 
  - You know, she just might reject him publicly - it got McCain a lot of press.  heraldsqure   Feb-27-08 05:34 PM   #20 
  - It would be funny, and no more than he deserves.  anigbrowl   Feb-27-08 05:53 PM   #28 
  - How sad that NPR has become just another hate radio outlet  TOJ   Feb-27-08 05:35 PM   #21 
  - Great post, and I agree, but is it possible to develop your ideas further  Mike03   Feb-27-08 05:39 PM   #22 
  - Obviously this was a dig...  Juniperx   Feb-27-08 05:47 PM   #26 
  - I'm beginning to fear anyone who is attached to any church...  Juniperx   Feb-27-08 05:45 PM   #25 
  - Cunninghanm? Cunningham? Who the heck is Bill Cunningham?  Lastlaughin08   Feb-27-08 05:51 PM   #27 
  - I can agree with that but what I would like Obama to do  UALRBSofL   Feb-27-08 05:59 PM   #29 

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