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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:14 AM
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1. One thing's for sure...
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 01:14 AM by FlyingSquirrel
If you have a choice between being great in the debates, or great on the campaign trail -- Nowadays in America, it's better to be great on the campaign trail and a good speaker.

So by that standard, Obama's got what it takes. (He's not bad in the debates either)
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  -All this talk of debates got me thinking back to the Presidential Debates of 2004... calmblueocean  Feb-27-08 01:10 AM   #0 
  - One thing's for sure...  FlyingSquirrel   Feb-27-08 01:14 AM   #1 
  - Yeah, the debates don't really determine the winner anymore  calmblueocean   Feb-27-08 01:28 AM   #5 
  - Kerry made huge gains after the debates so they do matter  JI7   Feb-27-08 01:32 AM   #6 
  - The media giveth, and the media taketh away...  FlyingSquirrel   Feb-27-08 01:32 AM   #7 
  - They DO matter - had Kerry done poorly at ALL, corpmedia would've blistered him  blm   Feb-27-08 09:24 AM   #9 
  - No one since maybe JFK is close to Obama in the magic of his campaign,  karynnj   Feb-27-08 10:51 AM   #13 
  - He opened us up to what could be  sandnsea   Feb-27-08 01:21 AM   #2 
  - it was a turning point in people seeing that what the media had presented  JI7   Feb-27-08 01:38 AM   #8 
  - Bush's handlers had so little faith in his ability to debate Kerry  LibDemAlways   Feb-27-08 01:22 AM   #3 
  - yeah there is that one tape I saw where he is actually talking  grantcart   Feb-27-08 01:26 AM   #4 
  - If a Dem pulled a stunt like that they'd be run out of DC - period.  blm   Feb-27-08 12:24 PM   #17 
     - Meanwhile Rove could have rigged up the chimp  LibDemAlways   Feb-27-08 01:13 PM   #18 
  - John Kerry definitely grew on me during the debates  democrattotheend   Feb-27-08 09:33 AM   #10 
  - Anyone watching those debates saw a vast gulf between Kerry and Bush, though.  calmblueocean   Feb-27-08 10:02 AM   #11 
  - "national Stockholm syndrome".. perfect descriptor! Thanks n/t  MBS   Feb-27-08 02:56 PM   #21 
  - Kerry's mistakes were extremely minor compared to all of Bush's  karynnj   Feb-27-08 11:11 AM   #14 
  - ... what you said  MBS   Feb-27-08 10:05 AM   #12 
  - Kerry is personally the best debater I have ever heard  NJSecularist   Feb-27-08 11:41 AM   #15 
  - It was like the SNL Mike Dukakis skit "I can't believe I'm losing to this guy"  Steve-O   Feb-27-08 11:42 AM   #16 
  - Kerry is a terrific debater  WesDem   Feb-27-08 01:22 PM   #19 
  - "It took me hearing him in person to realize just how good a speaker he is"  WildEyedLiberal   Feb-27-08 03:43 PM   #22 
  - K&R  politicasista   Feb-27-08 01:42 PM   #20 
  - You're absolutely correct! Nothing compares to the hope in 04 that Kerry gave us.  ray of light   Feb-27-08 09:40 PM   #23 
  - Corpmedia will be seen as complicit soon - Rather's lawsuit will bring some of it  blm   Feb-28-08 10:05 AM   #27 
  - John Kerry WON. What he did with the victory - other stories. GE debates - stellar!  robbedvoter   Feb-27-08 09:45 PM   #24 
  - I agree wholeheartedly. I was watching the debates and thinking the same thing myself.  wisteria   Feb-27-08 09:53 PM   #25 
  - I don't think John Kerry lost.  Laelth   Feb-28-08 07:17 AM   #26 
 

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