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140. He refused to reject the endorsement and then tried to make it seem like he did. nt
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  -It was obvious Barack did not want to insult Farrakhans followers, that is why he did not reject the MassDemm  Feb-26-08 10:21 PM   #0 
  - There is no difference between rejecting and denouncing. Hillary was playing silly season politics  GarbagemanLB   Feb-26-08 10:21 PM   #1 
  - and the audience laughed, so I guess they didn't think he blew it.  GarbagemanLB   Feb-26-08 10:22 PM   #2 
  - No, he told russert or williams, whichever, that he did not reject the endorsement  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:23 PM   #7 
  - If I offer you a haircut...  stahbrett   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #20 
  - Let's Take Your Example:  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-26-08 10:32 PM   #46 
     - i do  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:36 PM   #60 
     - Ummmmm, What Now?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-26-08 10:41 PM   #81 
     - Replace "I disagree. I hate it" with "I denounce your opinions & didn't ask for your opinion"  stahbrett   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   #66 
        - Nope. Doesn't Work.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-26-08 10:44 PM   #91 
  - He said there was nothing formal to reject  Bleachers7   Feb-26-08 10:31 PM   #40 
     - Something Formal Was Not Necessary.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-26-08 10:34 PM   #52 
        - he went on at length  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   # 
           - He was asked directly to reject the endorsement and he said he would not.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:38 PM   #68 
              - And the debate ended there and nothing more on the subject was said? Not on my TV. n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:45 PM   #92 
              - My hubby who is apolitical  Mojorabbit   Feb-27-08 12:05 AM   #164 
  - There's A Huge Difference, And So Many Are Trying To Play Dumb By Stating Otherwise.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #19 
     - thank you so much for putting that in such great terms!  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #33 
     - Absolutely correct.  Blue_In_AK   Feb-26-08 10:31 PM   #41 
     - I agree. He beat around the bush on that one.  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:33 PM   #51 
     - He did beat around the bush (no pun), kinda' like a certain  lumpy   Feb-26-08 10:51 PM   #113 
     - And good old fat face Timmy let him get away with it by not making  Auntie Bush   Feb-26-08 10:56 PM   #125 
     - So we'll probably see a bump for Hillary? n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   #65 
     - Why? You Found The Issue That Important?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-26-08 10:45 PM   #94 
     - there is a difference  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:38 PM   #69 
     - Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!  gerrilea   Feb-26-08 10:38 PM   #71 
     - Do we only have to denounce the bad parts of Farrakhan?  dmesg   Feb-26-08 10:40 PM   #77 
     - I like to agree, but the majority of Americans, like me only  gerrilea   Feb-26-08 10:52 PM   #117 
     - Only if you are willing to concede the inverse of this ridiculous argument.  Usrename   Feb-27-08 10:33 AM   #188 
        - It Is 100% Rational And Logically Sound.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-27-08 11:40 AM   #190 
           - Right, your principles do not commute.  Usrename   Feb-27-08 11:50 AM   #191 
  - Not really.  woolldog   Feb-26-08 10:22 PM   #3 
  - Then why did he not flatly reject the endorsement of an anti semitic.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:24 PM   #9 
     - He did (eom)  woolldog   Feb-26-08 10:28 PM   #25 
        - He did not. He only rejected and denounced the anti semitism, not the endorsement. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:36 PM   #59 
           - probably for the same reason hillary hasnt rejected limballs  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:39 PM   #74 
           - Sure he did.  woolldog   Feb-26-08 10:50 PM   # 
           - When Russert first asked if he accepted the endorsement  femmedem   Feb-27-08 09:30 AM   #182 
  - "denounce" is much stronger than "reject"  heraldsqure   Feb-26-08 10:22 PM   #4 
  - But when you denounce, and do not reject the support,  Ravy   Feb-26-08 10:28 PM   #24 
  - What the fuck dictionary do you have?  Seeker30   Feb-26-08 10:29 PM   #29 
     - This the fuck dictionary:  heraldsqure   Feb-27-08 10:43 AM   #189 
  - Who Farrakhan supports has nothing to do with Obama personally  Truth Hurts A Lot   Feb-26-08 10:22 PM   #5 
  - I don't think he is an anti semitic. I think he is a straddling politician and will even use an  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:25 PM   #11 
  - Hillary is going to lose ba ha ha ha ha! n/t  LoZoccolo   Feb-26-08 10:23 PM   #6 
  - Buy a Dictionary MassDemm... Denounce is a synonym for Reject.....  scheming daemons   Feb-26-08 10:24 PM   #8 
  - As soon as the transcript comes out. He did not reject the endorsement. He said he did not reject  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #18 
  - Fine  maddiejoan   Feb-27-08 09:59 AM   #185 
  - Ok, I'll face it: You think he blew it....  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:25 PM   #10 
  - His campaign is doing so well in 3 words Main Stream Media  gerrilea   Feb-26-08 10:28 PM   #27 
     - If the MSM, and a majority of voters support him, how did he blow it? n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #31 
        - All of his International Answers he took from Hillary!  gerrilea   Feb-26-08 10:35 PM   #58 
           - yep, if that wasn't obvioius, the American people will deserve what they get.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:42 PM   #84 
           - I'm sure you were thinking of supporting him anyways.  Forkboy   Feb-26-08 10:43 PM   #85 
           - I don't whine, I do "bitch" alot though!  gerrilea   Feb-26-08 10:50 PM   #110 
              - Bitch is the New Black!!!!  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:52 PM   #116 
                 - LOL...  gerrilea   Feb-26-08 10:53 PM   #119 
           - So you agree - he didn't blow it. Thanks! n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:46 PM   #97 
           - Funny you should say that because it's the same thing  Beacool   Feb-26-08 11:10 PM   #148 
  - Obama CLEARLY denounced Farahkan's Anti-semitism- how  Bluerthanblue   Feb-26-08 10:25 PM   #12 
  - I have acknowledged that, but he did not reject the endorsement. That's the point.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #38 
  - Did he reject his endorsement too?  maddiejoan   Feb-27-08 10:00 AM   #186 
  - So you think. huh?  fedupinBushcountry   Feb-26-08 10:26 PM   #13 
  - Everything about that bastard should be denounced/rejected!  AX10   Feb-26-08 10:26 PM   #14 
  - That was the only line of the night that got applause.  Bleachers7   Feb-26-08 10:26 PM   #15 
  - no blew it! He answered it adequately  bambino   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #16 
  - Hillary should definitely hammer this issues up to Tuesday  tammywammy   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #17 
  - yeah, he would not reject the endorsement and told fat pig that. but they let him off easy.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:28 PM   #26 
  - Exactly, she should keep saying  tammywammy   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #35 
     - He said, if she want's to hear the word "reject" he will concede the point. n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:33 PM   #49 
        - He only denounced the anti semitism, not the endorsement.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   #64 
           - So, the endorsement is more important than antisemitism, for Clinton supporters.  Mass   Feb-26-08 10:38 PM   #72 
           - No, he is trying to parse for votes, that's what is despicable. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:43 PM   #86 
              - No, he is not. Hillary is trying to parse words by trying to create an outrage in the Jewish  Mass   Feb-26-08 10:47 PM   #102 
                 - I am not trying to do that at all my main point here is that  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:54 PM   #120 
                    - May be not you, but she is. It is clear. and it is despicable.  Mass   Feb-26-08 10:57 PM   #126 
                       - I wrote the OP. did you mean me or not, which post do you mean? nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:03 PM   #136 
                          - Well, as many Clinton's supporters came with the same point, it is talking points at its best.  Mass   Feb-26-08 11:06 PM   #141 
                             - Mass, sometimes the truth is the truth. I 100% believe this and we have a difference of an opinion.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:22 PM   #153 
           - No, at the end he didn't specify - he accepted either denounce or reject as acceptable to him....  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:40 PM   #76 
           - and once again he shouldnt denouce the endorsment  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:42 PM   #82 
  - He's already indicated he's ready to use whatever "magic words" Hillary demands....  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:32 PM   #47 
     - Oh I keep forgetting  tammywammy   Feb-26-08 10:34 PM   #55 
  - Stick with this. It's your last hope.  cottonseed   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #21 
  - As he said..you can't stop a guy from supporting you. he answered just fine..  NDambi   Feb-26-08 10:27 PM   #22 
  - Right. The race is over. He lost. blahblahblah. This is SO tiring. America does NOT  K Gardner   Feb-26-08 10:28 PM   #23 
  - Keep looking for that issue there. I'm sure you'll find one eventually.  bluestateguy   Feb-26-08 10:29 PM   #28 
  - Every time Clinton supporters claim Obama blew it, he rises 2-5 points in the polls. Your  Occam Bandage   Feb-26-08 10:29 PM   #30 
  - Someone needs to look into Hillary's bizarre comment about a party who was on her line for Senate  ProSense   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #32 
  - oh-----I await another post from you related all things of hillary-hate. yup--go for it.  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   #62 
     - Do you have a response to why she claimed she rejected their support when she actually got it? n/t  ProSense   Feb-26-08 10:43 PM   #87 
     - you are twisted, she publicly and forcefully rejected the endorsement. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:46 PM   #100 
     - No, she said she rejected their support. Farrahkan isn't a party. She could have refused  ProSense   Feb-26-08 11:01 PM   #134 
     - My ears did not hear her say that tonight. and i washed them. Did you?  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:48 PM   #106 
     - i bet when you say things like that your breath fogs up the mirror  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:43 PM   #88 
        - he did not answer strongly  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:45 PM   #93 
        - nah---i am not vain. no mirrows around.  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:47 PM   # 
           - lol, although you give me the perfect opening  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:49 PM   #108 
              - I had no offer --so you can reject and denouce yourself away.  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:58 PM   #129 
                 - ahh, to the ignor with you humorless asshole  mkultra   Feb-26-08 11:04 PM   #139 
  - That's pretty sad. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #34 
  - Is this your second or third of the night?  Forkboy   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #36 
  - Oh my little pet, what does it matter to you? don't you have a star? If you do you can search and  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:31 PM   #45 
     - Awww...looks like I touched a nerve.  Forkboy   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   #63 
        - you are a sicko. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:41 PM   #80 
           - Actually, a lot of us will remember that you were pushing this sh!t tonight.  sfexpat2000   Feb-26-08 10:54 PM   #121 
           - pushing what that Obama will use an anti semitic to garner votes.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:01 PM   #135 
              - Please keep posting this crap.  sfexpat2000   Feb-26-08 11:03 PM   #137 
           - Could be worse. I could be filled with hate for one of the candidates.  Forkboy   Feb-26-08 10:56 PM   #124 
           - Sicko's favorite hobby, wiseassery . Perverse what ?  lumpy   Feb-27-08 12:23 AM   #165 
  - He sure beat around the bush on that one-5 minutes? and no clear answer.  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #37 
  - yes, he answered weakly  mkultra   Feb-26-08 10:47 PM   #101 
  - Russert, that you?  izzybeans   Feb-26-08 10:30 PM   #39 
  - Obama handled her theatrics well and won applause for it.  book_worm   Feb-26-08 10:31 PM   #42 
  - I disagree with his hateful message but I support his support of black men  NJObamaWoman   Feb-26-08 10:31 PM   #43 
  - Well there are a lot of jews in this country who might have a different feeling  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:33 PM   #50 
     - oh I honk he's hateful but that doesn't mean that I can't find his encouragement  NJObamaWoman   Feb-26-08 10:52 PM   #115 
        - Jews have experienced and are still experiencing bigotry  lumpy   Feb-27-08 12:36 AM   #167 
  - He refused to tell Russert initially that he "rejected" Farrakhan's support  mtnsnake   Feb-26-08 10:31 PM   #44 
  - Yup, and then agreed to use "reject" - issue defused n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:34 PM   #54 
  - no it is not defused. He initially refused to reject the endorsement.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:39 PM   #75 
     - Not in your mind, but the issue is diffused in voters minds. Proof? No bump for Hillary n/t  GOTV   Feb-26-08 10:42 PM   #83 
  - You guys are getting caught up in semantics.  woolldog   Feb-26-08 10:46 PM   #99 
     - You must repeat after me.... reject denounce i do, reject denounce i do  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:06 PM   #143 
        - It's not a voting block he's ever in danger of losing.  woolldog   Feb-26-08 11:24 PM   #158 
  - I don't think he blew it.  goodgd_yall   Feb-26-08 10:32 PM   #48 
  - In my mind, he still only "rejected and denounced" the anti semitism, not the endorsement. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:34 PM   #53 
  - You are the same people who say that we should write off half of this country's...  Kristi1696   Feb-26-08 10:35 PM   #56 
  - This argument is childish, petty, and desperate.....  Me_Shell   Feb-26-08 10:35 PM   #57 
  - This is in the running for the stupidest thread ever.  Political Heretic   Feb-26-08 10:36 PM   #61 
  - What an argument of a loser...ferchrissakes...  zulchzulu   Feb-26-08 10:37 PM   #67 
  - What a vile, reprehensible smear -- and of the Democratic frontrunner, no less.  The Stranger   Feb-26-08 10:38 PM   #70 
  - He is the one not willing to reject an endorsement from a person who outwardly hates jews. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:44 PM   #90 
     - That is complete bullshit, and you know it. He rejected, denounced, and jumped through every hoop  The Stranger   Feb-27-08 09:12 AM   #173 
        - Actions speak louder then words...  Demagitator   Feb-27-08 09:44 AM   #184 
           - Well then that is your problem.  The Stranger   Feb-27-08 12:51 PM   #192 
  - He made it very clear, that frarrakhan offered no help, but if he did, he would denouce and reject  still_one   Feb-26-08 10:39 PM   #73 
  - When asked if he rejected Farrakhans endorsement he said no. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:40 PM   #78 
     - First of all if you want to be "really" accurate, which I am sure you don't  still_one   Feb-26-08 10:46 PM   #98 
        - He told Russert he could not reject the endorsement from someone who thought  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:50 PM   #111 
        - It would have been wise for him to reject any endorsement -implied or not. Now it will linger and  rodeodance   Feb-26-08 10:53 PM   #118 
  - I am so glad that Hillary called him to account on it!  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-26-08 10:40 PM   #79 
  - We don't think that got across though. It came across as her being petty over silly semantics.  AgadorSparticus   Feb-26-08 10:44 PM   #89 
  - True, the media is a failure for every american. Count on it if O wins the nom. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:45 PM   #95 
  - Her family does have 35 years of experience in silly semantics.  ContinentalOp   Feb-26-08 11:46 PM   #161 
  - a minor question for you  Bodhi BloodWave   Feb-26-08 10:45 PM   #96 
  - Well I think all of my opinions should be accepted as true gospel. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:47 PM   #104 
  - Underneath it all is Obama gutless or just an over educated  lumpy   Feb-26-08 10:47 PM   #103 
  - he is an inexperienced talented orator. We need experience in the WH not an experiment. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:48 PM   #105 
  - No, he is a black man and therefore antisemitic. Just like Jackson and Farrakhan.  Mass   Feb-26-08 10:49 PM   #109 
     - You are being sarcastic, right? /nt  still_one   Feb-26-08 10:50 PM   #112 
        - I do not know. Was the OP sarcastic? Because it is no more farfetched.  Mass   Feb-26-08 10:51 PM   #114 
           - Well, if Clinton supporters pursue this approach, and she get the nomination, she won't get my vote  still_one   Feb-26-08 10:56 PM   #122 
              - You are reading way too much into this. Go back and read my OP  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:57 PM   #127 
                 - Did Hillary renounce the endorsement she got from racists and antigay people in the South?  Mass   Feb-26-08 11:00 PM   #132 
                 - Of course neither endorsed her, but she also didn't explicitly reject ann coulter's  still_one   Feb-26-08 11:08 PM   #145 
                 - OK. so you interpret it different than I do. If there is that ambiguity  still_one   Feb-26-08 11:06 PM   #142 
                    - fair enough we have a difference of opinion on this.  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:09 PM   #146 
                       - Well, either way, this forum isn't good for me, and I somtimes say things  still_one   Feb-26-08 11:29 PM   #159 
                          - I feel much the same way, from a different perspective, but the just the same anyways. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:43 PM   #160 
                             - As someone else posted the problem will be Revrend Wright from Obama's church  still_one   Feb-26-08 11:48 PM   #162 
  - He rejected and denounced it.  AtomicKitten   Feb-26-08 10:48 PM   #107 
  - What exactly did he denounce and reject, please do tell, intelligently if you can. tx. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 10:56 PM   #123 
     - This is so old it's ancient. When he found out the pastor of his church  sfexpat2000   Feb-26-08 10:58 PM   #130 
     - But then you'd have to have someone explain it to you.  AtomicKitten   Feb-26-08 11:08 PM   #144 
  - "MIchael Corleone, do you renounce Satan and all evil...."  cliffordu   Feb-26-08 10:57 PM   #128 
  - I have a better question..........  Beacool   Feb-26-08 11:00 PM   #131 
  - Take the following for whatever it is worth:  still_one   Feb-26-08 11:23 PM   #155 
  - So you're telling me that people who believe that white people were created in a mad science...  JVS   Feb-26-08 11:00 PM   #133 
  - Obama spoke for TWO MINUTES about his history of rejecting Farrakhan...  writes3000   Feb-26-08 11:04 PM   #138 
  - He refused to reject the endorsement and then tried to make it seem like he did. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:05 PM   #140 
  - He DENOUNCED the man and the man's BIGOTED positions.  writes3000   Feb-26-08 11:15 PM   #150 
     - Did he endorse him or said he was proud that a black man was were he was?  Mass   Feb-26-08 11:17 PM   #151 
     - He was asked straight out if he rejected the endorsement and he said no. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:24 PM   #157 
        - Correct: His reasoning? He agrees with Farrakhan that he's a good man.  writes3000   Feb-26-08 11:55 PM   #163 
  - i know, that wasnt enough renunciation? lol...  meow mix   Feb-27-08 12:27 AM   #166 
  - The difference was between rejecting the endorsement and denouncing the anti-semitism.  Baconfoot   Feb-26-08 11:09 PM   #147 
  - Wouldn't want to alienate any body that likes Mr. Farrakhan...  DemEtienne   Feb-26-08 11:12 PM   #149 
  - And if Obama HAD rejected the endorsement some of you folks...  cliffordu   Feb-26-08 11:20 PM   #152 
  - He needed to do both absolutely. One without the other is pandering for votes. nt  MassDemm   Feb-26-08 11:23 PM   #154 
  - Reminds me of that Scene from A Few Good Men  NeedleCast   Feb-26-08 11:23 PM   #156 
  - I think Hillary saved his butt on this one! He was clearly dancing  napi21   Feb-27-08 12:47 AM   #168 
  - Barack is not going to reject anybody in his America you can't have unity otherwise.  cooolandrew   Feb-27-08 08:57 AM   #169 
  - Hillary was race baiting in the worse possible way, disgrace really.  cooolandrew   Feb-27-08 08:58 AM   #170 
  - Second half of that question was about Obama's minister and  Little Star   Feb-27-08 09:00 AM   #171 
  - yup Obaba' minister not only gave Farrakhan an award, they went on a trip together to visit Kadaffi  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-27-08 09:24 AM   #177 
  - here's a simple response: He endorsed me, I didn't endorse him  yurbud   Feb-27-08 09:01 AM   #172 
  - Obama needed to say "I REJECT Farrakhans endorsement" and he did't until Hillary called himn on it  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-27-08 09:27 AM   #179 
     - I thought it was clever of her to say she had to reject support from those in NY spewing hate.......  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-27-08 09:28 AM   #181 
  - agreed ...Obama only said he disagreed with a few of Farrakhans policies. ........  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-27-08 09:17 AM   #174 
  - So if Farrakhan says orange juice is good for you, we should disagree because he said it?  yurbud   Feb-27-08 09:19 AM   #175 
  - Has HRC denounced OR rejected Anne Coulter's endorsement?  northernsoul   Feb-27-08 09:22 AM   #176 
  - Exactly n/t  Demagitator   Feb-27-08 09:27 AM   #178 
  - He didn't blow it.  OnionPatch   Feb-27-08 09:28 AM   #180 
  - You gotta be fucking kidding to make a stupid observation such as that  0007   Feb-27-08 09:37 AM   #183 
  - Denouncing Farrakhans would be worse to his followers than rejecting his endorsement...  weezie1317   Feb-27-08 10:04 AM   #187 
  - This link just about sums up the way I felt about last nights answer.  0007   Feb-27-08 12:54 PM   #193 
 

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