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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:03 PM
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21. A couple of things to consider
my wife comes from Ohio.

Hillary has to win very big with the better part of a 25 point measure, that is unlikely to happen.

There is a significant african-american population in the Cleveland and Dayton area (I am not sure about Columbus of Cincinnati) which will help Barack.

In Columbus you have the main Ohio state campus, another chance for Obama to limit Hillary's vote total.

I am no expert, but I just can not see any way she can win with a big enough margin to regain the momentum needed to stop the Obama express.

Unless she absolutely savages Barack in tomorrows night debate (and that could engender a backlash if she goes to far) she is toast.

At least that IMHO.

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  -Two New Polls: Clinton Holds Strong Ohio Lead ElsewheresDaughter  Feb-25-08 03:51 PM   #0 
  - Hillary was 20 points ahead less than a month ago  IndianaGreen   Feb-25-08 03:52 PM   #1 
  - She's still ahead, though.  DemBones DemBones   Feb-25-08 03:53 PM   #3 
  - Not for long!  IndianaGreen   Feb-25-08 03:55 PM   #8 
     - Since Super Tuesday, she's always ahead in the polls a week out.  VolcanoJen   Feb-25-08 04:55 PM   #42 
        - Wrong  jackson_dem   Feb-25-08 06:20 PM   #55 
           - Except for all those speeches and big rallies that Hillary is so upset about, you mean?  VolcanoJen   Feb-25-08 08:20 PM   #66 
  - No her lead is steady  OzarkDem   Feb-25-08 06:25 PM   #59 
  - Yeah, according to Q-poll Obama has cut Clinton's lead in half since there last poll!  book_worm   Feb-25-08 03:53 PM   #2 
  - She's still ahead, though.  DemBones DemBones   Feb-25-08 03:54 PM   #5 
     - So give it another week and he'll be leading.  Occam Bandage   Feb-25-08 03:55 PM   #6 
     - Be careful what you wish for, a McCain presidency could result.  DemBones DemBones   Feb-25-08 04:03 PM   #22 
        - Not according to the majority of head to heads I have seen.  usregimechange   Feb-25-08 04:45 PM   #40 
     - We got a week and besides Texas is looking good for Obama  book_worm   Feb-25-08 03:56 PM   #11 
  - I live in Ohio  Botany   Feb-25-08 03:54 PM   #4 
  - Signs don't matter, only votes.  DemBones DemBones   Feb-25-08 03:55 PM   #10 
  - How about a S.R.O. turn out for Obama volunteers @ a local union hall?  Botany   Feb-25-08 04:02 PM   #19 
  - In Hillary's world  hogwyld   Feb-25-08 04:28 PM   #29 
     - Hurry Hurry  Demo5   Feb-25-08 04:42 PM   #37 
  - A couple of things to consider  nels25   Feb-25-08 04:03 PM   #21 
  - From the other Clinton Land of South Texas  WolverineDG   Feb-25-08 03:59 PM   #18 
  - Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav?  Botany   Feb-25-08 04:04 PM   #23 
     - Early projections had him 3% pts behind  WolverineDG   Feb-25-08 04:25 PM   #28 
        - If both Ohio and Texas trends follow the rest of the nation Hillary  Botany   Feb-25-08 04:31 PM   #32 
           - Um, duh  WolverineDG   Feb-25-08 04:33 PM   #33 
              - are you a precinct capt.?  Botany   Feb-25-08 04:39 PM   #36 
                 - yes &  WolverineDG   Feb-25-08 04:45 PM   #39 
                 - So you are a chair? roflmao  Botany   Feb-25-08 04:48 PM   #41 
                 - His ground organization in Cincinnati is like nothing I've ever seen before.  VolcanoJen   Feb-25-08 05:00 PM   #46 
                    - From Columbus  Botany   Feb-25-08 05:11 PM   #48 
                       - Same in Dayton. nt  Kukesa   Feb-25-08 06:25 PM   #58 
  - She always has a big lead before the election, then they actually meet the candidates  Obamaman2008   Feb-25-08 09:09 PM   #71 
  - She can win Ohio by 11 points, and it's not even close to being enough...  ALiberalSailor   Feb-25-08 03:55 PM   #7 
  - Exactly. The numbers don't lie.  backscatter712   Feb-25-08 03:56 PM   #12 
  - She needs to win by 2 or 3 touchdowns  underpants   Feb-25-08 03:55 PM   #9 
  - I thought she had to get at least four home runs?  SteppingRazor   Feb-25-08 03:57 PM   #14 
  - What's Quinnipiac's track record? What's UoC's record?  ORDem   Feb-25-08 03:56 PM   #13 
  - Not So Fast.....  OhioChick   Feb-25-08 03:57 PM   #15 
  - nope. not the newest. todays ppp poll  cali   Feb-25-08 03:57 PM   #16 
  - Over 13,000 Obama supporters in Cinci today  Kukesa   Feb-25-08 04:03 PM   #20 
     - Damn! I thought Shrillary told him to knock off those big rallies!  ORDem   Feb-25-08 04:06 PM   #24 
     - Yup! And I'll bet even more come to the Dayton rally tonight.  VolcanoJen   Feb-25-08 04:10 PM   #26 
     - There wasn't any traffic in Cleveland  Kukesa   Feb-25-08 06:00 PM   #53 
     - Where is Ozark Dem, anyway?  BlueDogDemocratNH   Feb-25-08 04:37 PM   #34 
     - Shame on you., Barack Obama!  tishaLA   Feb-25-08 05:17 PM   #50 
     - How was the traffic?  Occam Bandage   Feb-25-08 08:18 PM   #65 
  - Yeah, but she had that lead in Wisconsin...  TwoSparkles   Feb-25-08 03:58 PM   #17 
  - That's funny! My local paper headline read, "Clinton losing ground in new Ohio polls."  VolcanoJen   Feb-25-08 04:08 PM   #25 
  - Same Here:  OhioChick   Feb-25-08 04:11 PM   #27 
  - That is one way to spin it. Or you can spin it by saying: Obama surging, cutting into Clinton lead.  Drunken Irishman   Feb-25-08 04:29 PM   #30 
  - Can you provide a link to the article that characterized this lead as "strong"?  milkyway   Feb-25-08 04:30 PM   #31 
  - Wow, talk about spin!  MadHound   Feb-25-08 04:38 PM   #35 
  - She should just withdraw and save everybody the trouble.  Common Sense Party   Feb-25-08 04:44 PM   #38 
     - Excellent plan  whutgives   Feb-25-08 04:56 PM   #43 
     - If she loses either Texas or Ohio, yes  MadHound   Feb-25-08 07:40 PM   #60 
  - Those are shit!  Obamaniac   Feb-25-08 04:59 PM   #44 
  - oh doggy doo!!  rodeodance   Feb-25-08 05:01 PM   #47 
  - Hillary is the clear frontrunner and should be expected to win, by large margins.  jefferson_dem   Feb-25-08 05:00 PM   #45 
  - yep! let us not forget this truth...WORK AND DON"T LET UP  asSEENonTV   Feb-25-08 05:21 PM   #51 
  - You're cracking me up, jefferson_dem!  arewenotdemo   Feb-25-08 05:24 PM   #52 
  - Yeah, she was projected to take Texas by 3%  WolverineDG   Feb-25-08 06:10 PM   #54 
     - Project this.  jefferson_dem   Feb-25-08 08:16 PM   #63 
        - He's ahead by 1 in your own projection!  WolverineDG   Feb-25-08 09:05 PM   #69 
           - But it's always been "her turn"...  jefferson_dem   Feb-25-08 10:11 PM   #72 
  - lol, when hillary keeps her lead for a couple days it is always great news  adoraz   Feb-25-08 05:13 PM   #49 
  - These are the newest polls  OzarkDem   Feb-25-08 06:23 PM   #57 
  - Thanks for posting!  OzarkDem   Feb-25-08 06:21 PM   #56 
  - Really? A month ago Hillary's lead was at twenty one percent  MadHound   Feb-25-08 07:43 PM   #61 
  - I don't know why people feel the need to intimidate people into voting for Obama  cd3dem   Feb-25-08 08:00 PM   #62 
  - Not even in the AA community?  VolcanoJen   Feb-25-08 08:23 PM   #67 
  - By next week it will be down another 10  BrentTaylor   Feb-25-08 08:17 PM   #64 
  - Even if these polls are accurate,  totodeinhere   Feb-25-08 08:24 PM   #68 
  - Not that strong  thevoiceofreason   Feb-25-08 09:08 PM   #70 
  - So, Ohio still counts, for now. Good to know.  apocalypsehow   Feb-25-08 10:13 PM   #73 
  - Thanks for this, great.  elixir   Feb-25-08 10:14 PM   #74 
  - Check the previous leads, she is steadly losing ground with a week to go  Johnny__Motown   Feb-25-08 10:32 PM   #75 

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