| 204. Interesting "facts." I don't pick presidents on race or gender. |
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Then I look at the facts:
1. She voted against Cheney's energy bill and Obama voted for it. (6 billion in subsidies for oil companies.)
Yup - bad vote.
2. He has consistently voted to fund the war the entire time he has been in the Senate. (anti-war?)
So did she. I can respect someone believing that de-funding the war and giving the president the opportunity to let my best friend rot in Iraq without support might not be the best way to get our troops home. So I won't penalize either candidate for it too much. However, what he didn't do was vote for the IWR. She did. Period.
3. She has consistently worked to better the lives of women and children around the world (look it up if you don't believe it.)
And she is to be commended.
4. She has women's rights on her website and Obama does not
Yes, he does.
5. Barack courts the religious right with his male dominated language that promotes male domination in religion (I've had enough of that for a lifetime, actually.)
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. As a person of faith and a radical leftist, I don't take well to such stupid sweeping generalizations.
6. Barack has a shitload of corporate money behind him
By the numbers, not as much as Hillary Clinton. So choosing her over him for this reason is illogical. There may be other reasons, but this one is contrary to reason.
7. His health care plan covers children but not their mothers? Wow, that makes sense!
The differences in their health care policies are an honest debate. I don't like her program, but I understand some do. Might be a reason to vote for her.
8. He can trash Wal Mart in a debate with Hillary but there are many americans who cannot afford to purchase from anywhere else.
Yeah like me last year. That doesn't change the fact that Wal-Mart deserves to be trashed. What should be done is looking for ways to improve the lives of americans who don't have other options. Both candidates are talking about how to do that. The "wal-mart" point is contrary to reason.
9. Read the Chicago Sun Times and search for "Rezko Obama." Then read every article. (that's all I need to say)
Read Media Matters complete debunking of the Rezko bullshit. Read every point. (that's all I need to say.)
"Lastly, In all honesty - and I mean this: If there is not a female on this presidential ticket I wil have to abstain from voting in the GE. Why? Because a lifetime of voting for all men for presidents is enough."
That's fine, I just wish you could be flown to Iraq and stand nose to nose with my friends son, or my own best friend and explain to them why you're OK with leaving them there to die under a McCain presidency.
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Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:06 PM |
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Voting with your core principals is not the same as |
Lautremont |
Feb-24-08 05:09 PM |
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OPs facts are FLAT wrong - and it's FAR worse for a Black man |
sloppyjoe25s |
Feb-24-08 07:25 PM |
#80 |
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What schools do your core principals come from? Are you |
rzemanfl |
Feb-24-08 05:10 PM |
#2 |
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What if Obama gets sex reassignment surgery, hormone injections, etc? |
Boojatta |
Feb-24-08 05:11 PM |
#3 |
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is he transgender? |
AGirl |
Feb-24-08 10:55 PM |
#146 |
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If there is no Jewish candidate on the presidential ticket, I will have to abstain from voting. |
Bicoastal |
Feb-24-08 05:15 PM |
#4 |
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Wrong. It's time for a good president, male or female. |
Alexander |
Feb-24-08 05:16 PM |
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But they are not running. For first time we have a chance to make a difference for girls and boys. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:18 PM |
#8 |
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If the first female president is a Republican -- are you OK with that? |
Yael |
Feb-24-08 05:20 PM |
#14 |
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if she is pro-choice, yes. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:28 PM |
#31 |
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Wow. Says a lot about you. So if she's pro-war, that's okay? |
Alexander |
Feb-24-08 05:29 PM |
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Of course pro-war is OK. Hillary is about as pro-war as it gets. |
jgraz |
Feb-24-08 05:37 PM |
#44 |
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As an aside..... |
BigDaddy44 |
Feb-24-08 07:52 PM |
#85 |
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So if Condi Rice was pro-choice, youd support her? |
hnmnf |
Feb-24-08 05:29 PM |
#37 |
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Fail |
BlueDogDemocratNH |
Feb-24-08 06:19 PM |
#65 |
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These responses are SO predictable... yawn |
LadyVT |
Feb-24-08 07:11 PM |
#74 |
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Answer this, then |
BlueDogDemocratNH |
Feb-24-08 07:45 PM |
#84 |
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I'm sick of whitey running things. I want a black man in the white house. |
hnmnf |
Feb-24-08 05:23 PM |
#18 |
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Ha Ha.. |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:43 AM |
#188 |
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she can't make a decision without Mark (Blackwater) Penn advising her |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Feb-24-08 11:02 PM |
#157 |
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Absolutely. Just not HER. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-24-08 05:17 PM |
#6 |
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I agree that it's time for a female president. |
yourguide |
Feb-24-08 05:17 PM |
#7 |
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I find it kind of sad that my fellow progressives dismiss the following: |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:22 PM |
#17 |
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First of all half your things are attacks on Obama and what exactly is her foreign policy experience |
hnmnf |
Feb-24-08 05:24 PM |
#23 |
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Agree |
OzarkDem |
Feb-24-08 05:28 PM |
#32 |
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ROFL |
yourguide |
Feb-24-08 05:30 PM |
#38 |
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no, just ignorance of the issues |
OzarkDem |
Feb-24-08 06:20 PM |
#66 |
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I also find it hard that MY fellow progressives dismiss the following |
yourguide |
Feb-24-08 05:29 PM |
#34 |
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I'm not your "fellow" progressive if you'd vote for a Repug |
jgraz |
Feb-24-08 05:31 PM |
#39 |
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Wait, you forgot.... |
ErnestoG |
Feb-24-08 07:28 PM |
#82 |
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She has NO principles. She is a shell of a human being. No thanks but knock yourself out. |
K Gardner |
Feb-24-08 05:18 PM |
#9 |
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Thanks, great points |
OzarkDem |
Feb-24-08 05:18 PM |
#10 |
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Yes, and I find that sadly lacking in this thread. My so-called fellow progressives dismiss |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:23 PM |
#20 |
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Just because she is a woman |
yourguide |
Feb-24-08 06:05 PM |
#60 |
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These aren't progressives. These are DU posters. |
LadyVT |
Feb-24-08 07:12 PM |
#75 |
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I call Bullshit.. |
Adams Wulff |
Feb-25-08 05:21 AM |
#184 |
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Would you have voted for Margaret Thatcher? |
intaglio |
Feb-24-08 05:19 PM |
#11 |
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Other countries have more of a history of women leaders. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:25 PM |
#26 |
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So, if the Republicans were running a female against Obama, she should get the vote? |
Yael |
Feb-24-08 05:19 PM |
#12 |
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This woman doesn't agree |
XemaSab |
Feb-24-08 05:19 PM |
#13 |
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I agree with evey one of your points. |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Feb-24-08 05:20 PM |
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Then, keep talking about how important it is for girls to see themselves reflected in positions of |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 09:45 PM |
#98 |
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what about those women and other humans in Iraq? |
Whisp |
Feb-24-08 10:20 PM |
#111 |
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276 years?? |
texas_indy |
Feb-24-08 05:21 PM |
#16 |
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I don't give a shit what the gender of the president is |
cali |
Feb-24-08 05:23 PM |
#19 |
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maybe you should think about how girls view themselves in the world. Imagine |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:25 PM |
#24 |
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It does suck. But I'm still going to vote for the best candidate, man or woman. |
grace0418 |
Feb-24-08 05:35 PM |
#42 |
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How do African American children view themselves? nt |
thecatburgler |
Feb-24-08 06:08 PM |
#62 |
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The poster is discussing GENDER, not race--you can discuss that elsewhere. |
LadyVT |
Feb-24-08 07:13 PM |
#77 |
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I'll discuss what I want, where I want. |
thecatburgler |
Feb-24-08 07:42 PM |
#83 |
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You can't separate the two..especially in this election..or don't you know ...a ... |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:50 AM |
#191 |
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I'm a woman |
cali |
Feb-24-08 06:15 PM |
#64 |
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Honestly, it's kind of insulting when you think about it. |
thecatburgler |
Feb-24-08 07:55 PM |
#86 |
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she's not running. and, given the amoutn of insults Hilalry has endured - fat ankles, being called |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 09:47 PM |
#99 |
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But she is not our last chance. |
thecatburgler |
Feb-24-08 09:59 PM |
#100 |
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I certainly don't see Obama as the last chance..I see it as a beginning of things to come ..a... |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:52 AM |
#192 |
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And imagine what black kids think about only seeing white Presidents |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 07:13 PM |
#76 |
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Demographics: women are in majority and we cross racial boundaries. You change the country more with |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:11 PM |
#107 |
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Why hasn't the majority elected "one of their own" in the past 88 years? |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 10:20 PM |
#110 |
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EXACTLY! and the answer is: We encourage it. If you keep buying from the company store you will |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:25 PM |
#117 |
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My first answer was too flippant. The reason is because women are underrepresented in US government |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:40 PM |
#127 |
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Dupe |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 10:43 PM |
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You're joking, right? Jeanette Rankin was elected in 1916 |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 10:45 PM |
#130 |
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so nasty here. Yes, I was wrong. Nasty, nasty. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:56 PM |
#148 |
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How was I nasty? |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 11:00 PM |
#154 |
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Pointing out factual mistakes |
Nederland |
Feb-25-08 06:00 AM |
#196 |
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Gah! Dupe again |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 10:58 PM |
#152 |
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So the self-esteem of women is more important than black people's because there are more women? |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:54 AM |
#193 |
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And how should blacks view themselves since they've never seen a black president..? |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:46 AM |
#189 |
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How about Amy Goodman? I like Amy Goodman. |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-24-08 05:24 PM |
#21 |
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We may not be able to afford the luxury of voting for Clinton. |
Orsino |
Feb-24-08 05:24 PM |
#22 |
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Presidents are not heroes. Presidents fix problems. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:26 PM |
#29 |
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well, lately, all Hillary's been doing is causing problems |
jgraz |
Feb-24-08 05:35 PM |
#43 |
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Ooh, she is doing a great job. Her toughness is what I want in a president. Not a showman. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:10 PM |
#162 |
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If she can fix *any* of the major problems facing us, she is a hero. |
Orsino |
Feb-24-08 05:46 PM |
#48 |
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Not necessarily true - nothing fixed in the past seven years. nt |
usnret88 |
Feb-24-08 07:05 PM |
#72 |
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Totally agree. |
LadyVT |
Feb-24-08 07:14 PM |
#78 |
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there are 8 female governors |
PM7nj |
Feb-24-08 05:25 PM |
#25 |
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At least three of those are supporting Obama too |
hnmnf |
Feb-24-08 05:26 PM |
#28 |
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Darn it, there you go bringing facts into the discussion!! |
texas_indy |
Feb-24-08 05:31 PM |
#40 |
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Voting Only Because she is Female... Boo! |
quantass |
Feb-24-08 05:26 PM |
#27 |
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show me the laundry list. and you didn't read the thread. I mentioned all the reasons why. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:27 PM |
#30 |
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Best candidate, not just female |
OzarkDem |
Feb-24-08 05:29 PM |
#36 |
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Would you vote for a Republican female over Obama? |
Yael |
Feb-24-08 05:32 PM |
#41 |
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If they were more qualified and better on the issues, sure |
OzarkDem |
Feb-24-08 05:52 PM |
#54 |
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And many HRC supporters aren't fooling anyone..many are making their choices |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:59 AM |
#195 |
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Voting for someone based on Gender is Sexist |
Obamaman2008 |
Feb-24-08 05:28 PM |
#33 |
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Yeah, but since when does common sense dictate politics? |
HypnoToad |
Feb-24-08 05:50 PM |
#51 |
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yet some with vote for him because he is black-will you then say it is racist? Get real. |
rodeodance |
Feb-24-08 05:59 PM |
#58 |
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I have heard a lot of African Americans happy they might have a black man in office. Do you trash |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:03 PM |
#105 |
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I don't see Obama supporters saying they should vote for him because he is Black |
Obamaman2008 |
Feb-24-08 10:23 PM |
#114 |
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Don't even try to paint me into a corner. There have been |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:25 PM |
#174 |
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Yes, If I didn't agree with her politics. But as I wrote in the post I listed all the things |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:21 PM |
#112 |
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I refuse to vote based on gender, race, religious affiliation, or ethnic origin. |
gordianot |
Feb-24-08 05:42 PM |
#45 |
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I'll just say this here. Ignoring Obama's record doesn't help us. furthermore I am stunned |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 05:46 PM |
#46 |
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How is Hillary a progressive? |
PM7nj |
Feb-24-08 05:52 PM |
#53 |
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I can surmise this about the war vote: She was the Senator from NYC (hardest hit on 9/11) and |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:29 PM |
#121 |
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Clue ... Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 |
Egnever |
Feb-24-08 10:35 PM |
#124 |
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clue: When the CIA goes to congress and presents information that WMD's exist and you |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:47 PM |
#132 |
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Clue..... I read the NIE |
Egnever |
Feb-24-08 11:14 PM |
#166 |
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OMFG!!!! Did a DU'er just link Iraq to 9/11??!!!!!????!??!!! |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 11:02 PM |
#156 |
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For you to read that into it you would have to leap in logic. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:11 PM |
#163 |
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Well |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 06:08 AM |
#197 |
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so are you saying that its not time for an African American president? |
onenote |
Feb-24-08 05:46 PM |
#47 |
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I am saying that women are in the majority and sexism crosses racial boundaries so |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 09:59 PM |
#101 |
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fwiw, in my experience, I see more women achieving positions of prominence than Afican americans |
onenote |
Feb-25-08 07:45 AM |
#202 |
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And I don't respect the fact she voted for war. |
babylonsister |
Feb-24-08 05:48 PM |
#49 |
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For every fact I'm not fond of her; it's countered by a fact that's a good thing... but |
HypnoToad |
Feb-24-08 05:49 PM |
#50 |
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So Margaret Thatcher then? |
KaptBunnyPants |
Feb-24-08 05:51 PM |
#52 |
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I'm 100% ready for a female president. Hillary is definitely not the one tho. |
BringBigDogBack |
Feb-24-08 05:52 PM |
#55 |
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Even though her health care plan covers all women and not just their children? |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:11 PM |
#164 |
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I won't vote for a candidate just cause they are a woman |
Raine |
Feb-24-08 05:56 PM |
#56 |
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I'm a woman and I won't vote for any canididate simply because she's a woman. |
BattyDem |
Feb-24-08 05:57 PM |
#57 |
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Too bad you didn't read the post |
OzarkDem |
Feb-24-08 06:21 PM |
#67 |
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I did read the post ... |
BattyDem |
Feb-24-08 06:51 PM |
#71 |
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Then you didn't take into consideration then things I listed about him and his |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:06 PM |
#106 |
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I respect that, even if I disagree. |
BattyDem |
Feb-24-08 10:35 PM |
#125 |
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nice post thanks. |
rodeodance |
Feb-24-08 06:01 PM |
#59 |
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Clinton voted against a ban on cluster bombs. |
thecatburgler |
Feb-24-08 06:07 PM |
#61 |
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Principles, not principals. |
undeterred |
Feb-24-08 06:10 PM |
#63 |
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nice post. eom. |
Jim4Wes |
Feb-24-08 06:23 PM |
#68 |
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is it now a valid argument to say it's time for a black president? |
loveangelc |
Feb-24-08 06:23 PM |
#69 |
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I think Skinner wrote a piece about how great it is that we might have an African American but Skinn |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:20 PM |
#109 |
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The thing is, Hillary can make an issue of being the first woman but Barack cannot |
loveangelc |
Feb-24-08 11:03 PM |
#159 |
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After 8 years of BUSH, |
HockeyMom |
Feb-24-08 06:25 PM |
#70 |
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HockeyMom, I love you. |
Adams Wulff |
Feb-25-08 05:36 AM |
#185 |
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Well done!! K & R |
LadyVT |
Feb-24-08 07:10 PM |
#73 |
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K&R |
benld74 |
Feb-24-08 07:24 PM |
#79 |
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Thanks, blacks got the vote fifty years before women did because white women helped. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:17 PM |
#169 |
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I meant "black men" got the vote and white women helped. (Please don't vilify me for a wrong fact.) |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:19 PM |
#171 |
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so- if the election in november is between barack obama and condi rice- you'll vote for rice? |
QuestionAll |
Feb-24-08 07:27 PM |
#81 |
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'Crickets' n/t |
Adams Wulff |
Feb-25-08 05:40 AM |
#187 |
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yawn |
redstate_democrat |
Feb-24-08 07:56 PM |
#87 |
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Sure, but not THIS one. |
Zhade |
Feb-24-08 07:56 PM |
#88 |
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This is NOT about gender. Too bad you have to play this card. |
RBInMaine |
Feb-24-08 07:57 PM |
#89 |
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No the campaign is about president. The reaction to the primary is about gender. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:20 PM |
#172 |
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Cheney's energy bill was before Obama entered office.Dems represent women more than any party. |
cooolandrew |
Feb-24-08 08:05 PM |
#90 |
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NO! cheney's Energy Bill was when Barack was in the Senate. Check your facts please before you vote |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 09:44 PM |
#97 |
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I find it "sad" some Dems would sit out 2008 & not fight a Repub in the GE & dismiss a likely SCOTUS |
Garbo 2004 |
Feb-24-08 08:06 PM |
#91 |
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Indeed! |
Muzza |
Feb-24-08 08:12 PM |
#92 |
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Agreed! |
RememberWellstone |
Feb-24-08 08:13 PM |
#93 |
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She voted to extend Bush's tax cuts |
ProSense |
Feb-24-08 08:17 PM |
#94 |
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I refuse to vote for someone just because they have a vagina. |
monomach |
Feb-24-08 09:02 PM |
#95 |
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Sounds like you are a sexist bigot. I don't respect men or women who think |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Feb-24-08 09:12 PM |
#96 |
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I disagree. Voting and not having the open mindedness to look at the problems and see links |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:01 PM |
#103 |
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This is an odd view coming from someone who wants a gender-free judgement in politics |
ErnestoG |
Feb-24-08 10:26 PM |
#118 |
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Bigots always have rationalizations for their bigotry . n/t |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Feb-24-08 10:53 PM |
#143 |
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If you want a female president... |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 10:00 PM |
#102 |
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Yuo would have loved to have voted for Margaret Thatcher |
bambino |
Feb-24-08 10:01 PM |
#104 |
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How come I don't see these two issues discussed since I listed the: |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:15 PM |
#108 |
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But not one who voted in favor of cluster bombs. n/t |
eridani |
Feb-24-08 10:22 PM |
#113 |
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out of fifty states we have one black governor. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Feb-24-08 10:23 PM |
#115 |
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For those who didn't read the entire post. Yes, I am voting for her becasue she is female AND she |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:24 PM |
#116 |
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4 democratic women governors (one from canada) You can't even count? |
Johnny__Motown |
Feb-24-08 10:27 PM |
#119 |
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This nastiness is a hallmark if DU. I will ignore it. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:33 PM |
#123 |
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What nastiness? |
anonymous171 |
Feb-24-08 10:48 PM |
#133 |
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I could have been more diplomatic, distorted facts piss me off is all |
Johnny__Motown |
Feb-24-08 10:49 PM |
#135 |
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I am just finally pointing out an opinion that MANY women have been thinking. this |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:07 PM |
#160 |
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So you'd vote for Elizabeth Dole? Or Olympia Snowe? |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 11:11 PM |
#165 |
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Your questions to me never take into account the entirety of my original post. Look at the list. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:15 PM |
#168 |
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I don't see what her being a woman has to do with your list |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 11:17 PM |
#170 |
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So if Condi was running for President, you would.....? n/t |
Tatiana |
Feb-24-08 10:27 PM |
#120 |
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Trying to get me thrown off of DU? Also, read the entire post. I put all of the reasons |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:32 PM |
#122 |
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"Hillary is smarter," |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 06:17 AM |
#198 |
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why? because we both have vaginas? |
kagehime |
Feb-24-08 10:36 PM |
#126 |
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Wow, frankly, Barack's male dominated religious talk doesn't exactly make me feel too |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:43 PM |
#128 |
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so you are more comfortable with a republican? |
kagehime |
Feb-24-08 10:45 PM |
#129 |
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Oh, so now |
anonymous171 |
Feb-24-08 10:47 PM |
#131 |
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She is impressive on military matters. Do the research on her. And, as far as courting |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:50 PM |
#136 |
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Do you know what "evangelical" means? |
dmesg |
Feb-24-08 10:51 PM |
#138 |
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Obama doesn't play the favor game |
anonymous171 |
Feb-24-08 10:52 PM |
#141 |
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Oh really? I think you need to catch up on this: |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:14 PM |
#167 |
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So you'd prefer war friendly, PNAC friendly Hillary? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-24-08 10:49 PM |
#134 |
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And voting for Barack is odd for a progressive too: Pro Cheney's Energy bill Barack. Why |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:51 PM |
#139 |
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Uh, in all fairness...Nadar bashed them both..HRC didn't escape his wrath... |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 06:19 AM |
#199 |
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Out of 50 states there is 1 black governor and 1 black senator |
RunningFromCongress |
Feb-24-08 10:51 PM |
#137 |
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And women are 50.7 percent of the population. AA's are 12.8 percent. Women cross all |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:52 PM |
#142 |
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Again, the fact she's a woman has NO RELEVANCE. To say it does is sexist. |
RunningFromCongress |
Feb-24-08 10:55 PM |
#145 |
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And I think you are not being honest as to the unprecedented nature of this primary |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:28 PM |
#177 |
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Wow ... your logic is just ... illogical. |
Blondiegrrl |
Feb-24-08 10:51 PM |
#140 |
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Your superior candidate voted for Cheney's energy bill + has a shitty health care plan. Progressive? |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:54 PM |
#144 |
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Garnish people's wages to FORCE them to buy insurance? |
Blondiegrrl |
Feb-24-08 11:24 PM |
#173 |
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Maybe you should watch the debate and learn about your candidates health care plan. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:26 PM |
#175 |
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Hillary is the best candidate. |
DDQ |
Feb-25-08 05:13 AM |
#182 |
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You Must Be Really Proud Of This Thread, Since You Keep Kicking It Yourself |
JimGinPA |
Feb-24-08 10:56 PM |
#147 |
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I don't know what that means. I am not kicking anything. I am responding to people. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 10:57 PM |
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To answer your first question, Barbara Boxer |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-24-08 10:57 PM |
#149 |
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Perhaps, but her liberalness would just get her kicked around visciously. Hillary does possess |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:00 PM |
#153 |
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I think you will see another viable woman candidate the next time Democrats have an open primary |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-24-08 11:27 PM |
#176 |
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I agree....with your points. |
AGirl |
Feb-24-08 10:57 PM |
#150 |
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So nice to hear. I have been getting bashed for telling my honest beliefs about being a female in U |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:01 PM |
#155 |
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I understand it, its important to express our honest opinons. |
AGirl |
Feb-24-08 11:34 PM |
#179 |
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I'd just like to brag for a moment |
progressive_realist |
Feb-24-08 11:02 PM |
#158 |
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thank you - I misspoke on that and I have been getting the nastiest responses. |
Captain_Nemo |
Feb-24-08 11:09 PM |
#161 |
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This is unintentional sexism. |
casus belli |
Feb-24-08 11:33 PM |
#178 |
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I agree . . . as long as it's not Hillary Clinton . . . n/t |
OneBlueSky |
Feb-25-08 04:51 AM |
#180 |
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I, too, agree . . . as long as it's not Hillary Clinton . . . n/t |
donheld |
Feb-25-08 05:00 AM |
#181 |
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I agree; just not this particular female for president. |
AtomicKitten |
Feb-25-08 05:19 AM |
#183 |
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It's time for a Black President...whooo hooo.. |
NDambi |
Feb-25-08 05:38 AM |
#186 |
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I agree, it is time for a female president, just not this particular female president. |
MadHound |
Feb-25-08 05:48 AM |
#190 |
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Thanks Captain Nemo It is Indeed Time for a Female President |
DDQ |
Feb-25-08 05:55 AM |
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Long but interesting read..... |
dmac |
Feb-25-08 07:16 AM |
#200 |
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Oh boy. |
48percenter |
Feb-25-08 07:23 AM |
#201 |
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I would vote for Barbara Boxer. |
Oregonian |
Feb-25-08 07:52 AM |
#203 |
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Interesting "facts." I don't pick presidents on race or gender. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-25-08 08:02 AM |
#204 |
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Yes, we do need a female President. But we don't need Hillary. |
Herdin_Cats |
Feb-25-08 08:33 AM |
#205 |
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Why do you hate African-Americans? |
crawfish |
Feb-25-08 08:48 AM |
#206 |