BleedingHeartPatriot
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Sun Feb-24-08 10:55 AM
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| 34. I respect Chomsky and Zinn because they don't jump into the presidential race on a whim. |
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He can run, he has every right, but to see him touted as the 2nd coming here, when he has not done the hard work of building support and campaigning and even holding a single public office does nothing beneficial for any of us. Perhaps the R's have a different view.
I'm actually heavily involved as a delegate, and as a member of a political advocacy group working to deliver single payer health care to our state.
I work my ass off at work and at these things, and don't appreciate Nader living the good life for four years and then sauntering onto the public stage to say he's running on a platform of "they're all crooked, every last one".
He singled out the Democratic Congress and Senators Obama and Clinton for criticism today. AND, his criticism of Obama was personal, not about his positions on issues.
Did he criticize the R's, except for an easy swipe at Bush?
I only WISH I lived in a cocoon. And, I see Nader for what he is, which is deeply disappointing because I remember the Nader's Raiders days when he made such a difference for average Americans. It appears he doesn't have the stomach for the hard work anymore, when all he has to do is call up Russert and get 15 minutes of softball questions.
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| -Finally. Something we can ALL agree on. Nader supporters have no business here. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 09:51 AM |
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Seconded |
kedrys |
Feb-24-08 09:52 AM |
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All us good Dems who are poo slinging at each other |
mtnester |
Feb-24-08 09:52 AM |
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Agreed. |
bowens43 |
Feb-24-08 09:53 AM |
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True |
Red Zelda |
Feb-24-08 09:55 AM |
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Exactly. |
Window |
Feb-24-08 10:03 AM |
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Amen |
Stuckinthebush |
Feb-24-08 09:56 AM |
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Fascists = phundies = freepers = neocons = Naderites |
whistle |
Feb-24-08 09:58 AM |
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Ralph Fucking Nader. I don't even have a word to describe how pissed I am at his need to |
Mzztakable |
Feb-24-08 09:58 AM |
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Thing Is, I Consider Them To Be Worse Than Republicans. I Really Do. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Feb-24-08 09:58 AM |
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You said that much more eloquently than I could |
susanr516 |
Feb-24-08 06:33 PM |
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On this point we 100% agree! |
RiverStone |
Feb-24-08 08:04 PM |
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Yes. |
terrya |
Feb-24-08 09:58 AM |
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Correct! It says "Democratic Underground" |
BeachBuckeye |
Feb-24-08 10:00 AM |
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I disagree. Many of them are progressives. We want them in the Dem party. |
Bonobo |
Feb-24-08 10:00 AM |
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Well, they can create their own "progressivesforNader" board. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 10:07 AM |
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Why don't you create your own "DemcoraticUndergagorder"? |
Bonobo |
Feb-24-08 10:09 AM |
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LOL. If you keep supporting Nader, I will need to do nothing more than |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 10:10 AM |
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Feb-24-08 10:17 AM |
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Nader on MTP. Asks if Sen. Obama has the "moral courage to get things done" |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 10:19 AM |
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Absolutely, in fact is it a good and pertinent question |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 10:21 AM |
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Methinks thou shalt not here the same question asked of McCain from Nader. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 10:24 AM |
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Nader blasts both sides equally, |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 10:45 AM |
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Actually, though, he doesn't. He launched more attacks on Gore than he did on Bush. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-24-08 10:49 AM |
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I think that you really need to go back and read some of his work |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:00 AM |
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I have. And it is fact that on the campaign trail, his attacks on Gore outnumbered his attacks on * |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-24-08 11:02 AM |
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Really? You got some actual facts to back that up with? Links, stats, anything? |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:34 AM |
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Defending Nader AND going after Gore. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:04 AM |
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Oh, yes, stone me, whip me, for I am a heretic |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:13 AM |
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OK, now the Democratic party is going the way of the Whigs? |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:17 AM |
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Part of the problem with our governmet and society |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:25 AM |
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Now you're going all fatalistic on me. Anyway, at least you've quit promoting St. Nader. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:39 AM |
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"tough shit, deal with it" is always a compelling way to support your position. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:22 AM |
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Hey, it made you sit up and pay attention |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:27 AM |
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Are we talking about Nader, still? |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:38 AM |
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I respect Chomsky and Zinn because they don't jump into the presidential race on a whim. |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 10:55 AM |
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You've obviously let your blindness and bitterness overcome your intelligence |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:07 AM |
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How can he be "marginalized" when he can just call NBC and get on MTP? |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:14 AM |
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Let's see, when he is kept off of ballots, off of debates, and is deliberately smeared, |
MadHound |
Feb-24-08 11:21 AM |
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If he's kept off the ballots, it's because he didn't do the boots on the ground work necessary |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 11:35 AM |
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And not one bit of organizing |
eridani |
Feb-24-08 11:57 PM |
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Except, that is, for the position that his candidacy is justified and vote-worthy. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-24-08 10:22 AM |
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Defending his position perhaps; supporting his run for POTUS? Nope |
MaineDem |
Feb-24-08 10:22 AM |
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Read this. It's what Skinner wrote about Nader during the first week of DU. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 11:28 AM |
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Anyone Who Supports Nader Is Not A Progressive. They Are A Moron. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Feb-24-08 10:20 AM |
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Do we really want people in the Dem party who are determined to hurt our chances in Nov? |
AZBlue |
Feb-24-08 11:16 AM |
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Those 'progressives' of which you speak gave us 8 years of Bushco, so not just no. Fuck no. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 11:22 AM |
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Then Nader should have run for the Democratic nomination... |
krkaufman |
Feb-25-08 01:59 AM |
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Agreed. Naderites are the most despicable form of political life, bar none. |
Occam Bandage |
Feb-24-08 10:21 AM |
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At least some of the Neocons have a sense of humor |
Taverner |
Feb-24-08 10:48 AM |
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I'm with you on that. |
seasonedblue |
Feb-24-08 10:22 AM |
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Totally agree! n/t |
MaineDem |
Feb-24-08 10:23 AM |
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Right on! |
Debi |
Feb-24-08 10:24 AM |
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Yep |
turtlensue |
Feb-24-08 10:24 AM |
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OK. I'll say it: FUCK.RALPH.NADER. |
Seabiscuit |
Feb-24-08 10:30 AM |
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Who wants to do that? |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Feb-24-08 11:36 AM |
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UGH! |
Seabiscuit |
Feb-24-08 01:02 PM |
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Yup |
Taverner |
Feb-24-08 10:47 AM |
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Gotta K & R. I couldn't believe the number of Obama supporters who are rallying for him as he |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Feb-24-08 10:47 AM |
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Nader supporters have business here |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Feb-24-08 11:10 AM |
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. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 11:21 AM |
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Rebuttal by emoticon |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Feb-24-08 11:51 AM |
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Says you. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 04:00 PM |
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Absolutely substanceless |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Feb-24-08 04:46 PM |
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No shortage of self-importance complex in Nader, eh? |
casus belli |
Feb-24-08 11:18 AM |
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Absolutely. |
Arkana |
Feb-24-08 11:20 AM |
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DU is the last place I would want to hang out if I were a Nader |
jonnyblitz |
Feb-24-08 11:25 AM |
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Yes, Finally! |
faithfulcitizen |
Feb-24-08 11:27 AM |
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Hopefully DU doesn't treat former Mercer supporters like this |
sniffa |
Feb-24-08 11:28 AM |
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. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 11:31 AM |
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No, we have already all agreed that Oasis sucks. |
rug |
Feb-24-08 11:38 AM |
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Yup |
Araxen |
Feb-24-08 11:40 AM |
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Fuck Nader. |
ellisonz |
Feb-24-08 05:04 PM |
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I don't support Nader, but I did vote for Grace Ross for Gov of Mass. |
Forkboy |
Feb-24-08 05:31 PM |
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Of course Nader supporters belong here if they are DEMOCRATS |
Sybbis |
Feb-24-08 05:51 PM |
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Lighten up, Francis. I never said I was a Hillary supporter. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 07:01 PM |
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Feb-24-08 07:24 PM |
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Feb-24-08 07:59 PM |
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My problem with Nader: |
insanity |
Feb-24-08 06:50 PM |
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If Sheehan supporters weren't allowed, Naderites DEFINITELY shouldn't be |
Canuckistanian |
Feb-24-08 07:03 PM |
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And it should be a no brainer for us. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-24-08 07:06 PM |
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Got that right. I'm sure there must be a nader forum somewhere where they |
Kahuna |
Feb-24-08 07:13 PM |
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Amen. Nader was a fool in 2000. This year, he's a traitor to the country. |
seawolf |
Feb-24-08 07:43 PM |
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AGREED ... Fuck Nader! nt |
Raine |
Feb-24-08 07:52 PM |
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I'll Never Forgive Him n/t |
Raejeanowl |
Feb-24-08 07:54 PM |
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Agreed. |
Fox Mulder |
Feb-24-08 07:55 PM |
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FUCK YOU NADER AND NADER SUPPORTERS |
TheDonkey |
Feb-24-08 08:27 PM |
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Agreed |
donheld |
Feb-25-08 03:14 AM |
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