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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:53 PM
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28. my point is this
And I'm making it to those who truly believe in universal healthcare - I'm ignoring all responses on the thread that don't speak about universal health care.

I want to know how important it is to everyone and whether it is as important as the future of the party itself?

I ask this because it seems to be the only compelling policy difference between these two candidates and it seems to be tearing the party apart.

For me it is the most compelling issue right now. That and education (which isn't being talked about now because there isn't a significant policy difference between the candidates on this point).

As a Canadian, I believe that universal health care is a right and not a privilege. If you want to know how important universal health care is to Canadians, ask yourself why Tommy Douglas (Kiefer Sutherland's grandpa) was voted "Greatest Canadian"... You can see it all here: http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nominee/douglas-tomm...


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  -Hillary fired a shot across the bow today to the entire party sueragingroz  Feb-23-08 08:31 PM   #0 
  - Shes so right, it's time for a lot of Democrats to "get real".nt  oasis   Feb-23-08 08:34 PM   #1 
  - I've been saying that for so long even I don't believe it anymore.  Forkboy   Feb-23-08 08:38 PM   #11 
  - There Is But ONE Party... "The $MONEY$ Party" That's WHY This So-Called Conflict Is Occurring...  DaLittle Kitty   Feb-23-08 09:42 PM   #61 
     - Oh, I get it.  Forkboy   Feb-23-08 09:48 PM   #65 
     - Ah Kitty Back Off Fork...... Get It?  Binka   Feb-24-08 12:22 AM   #81 
  - Yes, she is. nt  Skip Intro   Feb-23-08 08:41 PM   #18 
  - for one thing, not crying "shame" on another fellow Democrat.  poli speak   Feb-23-08 08:34 PM   #2 
  - Maybe the Connecticut For Leiberman party could pick her up.  billyoc   Feb-23-08 09:38 PM   #58 
  - This peice on politico explains her behavior...  yourguide   Feb-23-08 08:35 PM   #3 
  - so, she is to weak to deal with criticism?  Johnny__Motown   Feb-23-08 08:35 PM   #4 
  - She couldn't raise enough money to run...  ingac70   Feb-23-08 08:35 PM   #5 
  - As if a plan like that would pass Congress. She or he just  juajen   Feb-23-08 09:20 PM   #44 
     - It is still her plan, none the less...  ingac70   Feb-23-08 09:24 PM   #46 
  - She isn't offering universal health care  sandnsea   Feb-23-08 08:36 PM   #6 
  - Universal health insurance.  HypnoToad   Feb-23-08 09:06 PM   #39 
  - Load of horse shit.  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 08:36 PM   #7 
  - As many have said up here. If she can't win. She wants a fractured party  BrentTaylor   Feb-23-08 08:36 PM   #8 
  - I am afraid you are correct.  AtomicKitten   Feb-23-08 08:40 PM   #14 
  - Do you have a link? If not, do you remember the poster or the date?  juajen   Feb-23-08 10:00 PM   #68 
  - AX10, for what it's worth.  PassingFair   Feb-24-08 01:17 AM   #83 
  - Scorched Earth.  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 08:41 PM   #21 
  - This thread was meant for hillary supporters who believe in universal healthcare  sueragingroz   Feb-23-08 08:38 PM   #9 
  - Mandated health INSURANCE is not universal health care! n/t.  ingac70   Feb-23-08 08:40 PM   #16 
  - I agree  Generic Brad   Feb-23-08 09:21 PM   #45 
  - It's now a thread for erotic Terry McAuliffe fanfics  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Feb-23-08 08:55 PM   #30 
  - She is not proposing "universal health care"  tularetom   Feb-23-08 08:38 PM   #10 
  - BINGO. n/t.  ingac70   Feb-23-08 08:39 PM   #12 
  - Untrue  MrRobotsHolyOrders   Feb-23-08 08:56 PM   #32 
  - WTF do you thik obama is proposing? n/t  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 09:31 PM   #52 
  - How very high-minded of you  BeyondGeography   Feb-23-08 08:39 PM   #13 
  - Mandating that I be forced to pay insurance corporations is  FrenchieCat   Feb-23-08 08:40 PM   #15 
  - Nixon first proposed this plan...  ingac70   Feb-23-08 08:42 PM   #23 
  - There is a government insurance option in her plan. nt  Jim4Wes   Feb-23-08 09:13 PM   #41 
  - She's Fucking Nuts  MannyGoldstein   Feb-23-08 08:41 PM   #17 
  - Tut tut! You mean "carnally unbalanced"!  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 08:58 PM   #33 
  - She didn't race bait and hasn't pulled any more stunts than  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 09:32 PM   #54 
     - So It Really Is A Historical Fact That Hispanics Don't Vote For Blacks?  MannyGoldstein   Feb-23-08 09:55 PM   #67 
     - No, she sanity baited.  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 10:58 PM   #79 
  - She also dropped into LA to apologize for Bill  ProSense   Feb-23-08 08:41 PM   #19 
  - No, she's not about to run as an independent  NastyRiffraff   Feb-23-08 08:41 PM   #20 
  - I agree  sueragingroz   Feb-23-08 08:47 PM   #27 
     - Ya'll are focusing on the 'universal'.  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 09:17 PM   #42 
        - And barack is proposing the same thing....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 09:32 PM   #53 
           - And he is almost as bad, only he won't have that 'mandate' thing  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 09:53 PM   #66 
              - Unless you have children and then you can't be trusted to  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 10:12 PM   #73 
                 - What new bureaucracy would that entail?  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 10:54 PM   #76 
                    - Not the point....ABSOLUTELY NOT THE POINT......either  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 10:57 PM   #77 
  - This party has been enabling this shit...this Repug-lite crap...  Gloria   Feb-23-08 08:42 PM   #22 
  - Right on, Gloria  theHandpuppet   Feb-23-08 09:19 PM   #43 
  - I don't understand your point.  Rosemary2205   Feb-23-08 08:43 PM   #24 
  - my point is this  sueragingroz   Feb-23-08 08:53 PM   #28 
     - Neither one of them are pushing universal healthcare  Rosemary2205   Feb-23-08 09:01 PM   #34 
     - Hillary isn't offering universal health care.  ingac70   Feb-23-08 09:01 PM   # 
        - neither is barack.....duh. n/t  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 09:34 PM   #56 
           - Didn't say he was...  ingac70   Feb-23-08 09:37 PM   #57 
              - I did.....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 09:39 PM   #59 
                 - Both health plans suck...  ingac70   Feb-23-08 09:42 PM   #62 
  - health care  enid602   Feb-23-08 08:44 PM   #25 
  - Oh that's a great idea ...run as an independent and ...hookup with Joe"the rat" lieberman too...  L0oniX   Feb-23-08 08:46 PM   #26 
  - Like this?  HypnoToad   Feb-23-08 09:07 PM   #40 
  - ENOUGH  BrentTaylor   Feb-23-08 08:54 PM   #29 
  - Interesting - I have already had two long conversations with old political friends today.  DURHAM D   Feb-23-08 08:56 PM   #31 
  - Maybe she wants to finally admit she and her husbands are Republicans...  zulchzulu   Feb-23-08 09:01 PM   #35 
  - Since when do DLC members care about "core Democratic principles"?  dflprincess   Feb-23-08 09:01 PM   # 
  - If her plan were actually universal, it might have some credibility  democrattotheend   Feb-23-08 09:01 PM   #36 
  - If she were to actually support universal healthcare, rather than  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 09:02 PM   #37 
  - SHE is the one who attacked John Kerry during the Joke. She sided with Bush & McCain  beachmom   Feb-23-08 09:04 PM   #38 
  - HRC said it like it is; HRC isn't HERE to make nice............  Double T   Feb-23-08 09:25 PM   #47 
  - And will be rewarded appropriately when Obama is the nominee.  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 09:27 PM   #50 
  - HRC said it like it is; HRC isn't HERE to make nice............  Double T   Feb-23-08 09:25 PM   #48 
  - I can see why everyone is clamoring for her to continue supporting UHC.  casus belli   Feb-23-08 09:26 PM   #49 
  - If Hillary says tomorrow she is running as an Independent....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-23-08 09:29 PM   #51 
  - Dean is part of the "party elite"?  dmesg   Feb-23-08 09:33 PM   #55 
  - Good lord, this made my head hurt. Its truly UPSIDE DOWN and OPPOSITE day. sheesh.  K Gardner   Feb-23-08 09:40 PM   #60 
  - I'm Obama's age, therefore I know that he's old enough to remember  Beacool   Feb-23-08 09:45 PM   #63 
  - yes i've seen that ... thanks for calling it out here /nt  sueragingroz   Feb-23-08 09:47 PM   #64 
     - Off topic.........  Beacool   Feb-23-08 10:04 PM   #69 
        - I'm so jealous!  sueragingroz   Feb-23-08 10:22 PM   #74 
           - I didn't know you were in Bermuda!!!!!  Beacool   Feb-23-08 10:36 PM   #75 
  - I didn't intend for this thread to be troll bait  sueragingroz   Feb-23-08 10:08 PM   #70 
  - She's been criticizing him on universal healthcare the whole campaign. Don't forget the NH mailings  Infinite Hope   Feb-23-08 10:09 PM   #71 
  - Hillary is Full of Shit  From The Left   Feb-23-08 10:11 PM   #72 
  - Why can she attack him, but he can't point out differences with her?  RunningFromCongress   Feb-23-08 10:57 PM   #78 
  - He cant win with this crowd. If he fights back, he's mean. If he's cool and collected,  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 10:59 PM   #80 
  - Will Obama stop using Rovian tactics?  AX10   Feb-24-08 01:13 AM   #82 
  - Hillary is the one who uses Rove tactics  donheld   Feb-24-08 04:51 AM   #86 
  - That's hilarious. She's run the dirtiest campaign in recent memory.  sfexpat2000   Feb-24-08 01:20 AM   #84 
  - Good post. No, it's not just about universal health care:  anigbrowl   Feb-24-08 01:47 AM   #85 
  - This attack by Hillary has the stink of desperation all over it  MadHound   Feb-24-08 06:03 AM   #87 
 

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