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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 12:15 PM
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58. "This is not about Hillary vs Obama, it is about the farmers and the environment of Peru."
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 12:17 PM by ProSense
So Hillary screwed them too, therefore it's Obama fault?

Here is information about the Peru bill.

NAFTA was a horrible bill, which Bill Clinton signed into law and Hillary has defended.

Biden's reason for not supporting the bill has nothing to do with the quality of the bill, but his belief that Bush will not enforce.

"I cannot support the Peru Free Trade Agreement because the Bush Administration has not proven that it will effectively enforce labor and environmental provisions, however good they may be. Our economy is slowing down, and Americans don't trust this administration to protect their jobs, or the safety of our imports.

"Americans understand that this Administration does not have a plan to win in the new international economy. This is not the time to endorse its approach to trade deals."

No one got screwed because the bill is not NAFTA and enforcement is not up Bush, it's up to the next president.

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  -No wonder why Hillary was pissed - look at this: pirhana  Feb-23-08 04:06 PM   #0 
  - Can you reduce that image? It's so large I can't read it.  Maddy McCall   Feb-23-08 04:07 PM   #1 
  - little fish: BIG picture!  MethuenProgressive   Feb-23-08 04:08 PM   # 
  - lol - that's what you get when you post without hitting preview first.  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:09 PM   #4 
     - Your lie is despicable  spokane   Feb-23-08 06:59 PM   #53 
  - Wow  557188   Feb-23-08 04:08 PM   #2 
  - that looks like a truthful effective ad. What is Hillary's problem?  JackORoses   Feb-23-08 04:08 PM   #3 
  - the lie is that Obama said that he is the only one that has consistantly opposed Nafta.  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:10 PM   #5 
  - Obama has opposed NAFTA  JackORoses   Feb-23-08 04:14 PM   #9 
     - apparently in words only  anamandujano   Feb-23-08 04:18 PM   #17 
        - Sort of like the war  557188   Feb-23-08 04:20 PM   #23 
           - its his NON-existant vote that is deceptive.  rodeodance   Feb-23-08 05:08 PM   #40 
  - Truthful?  557188   Feb-23-08 04:10 PM   #6 
  - Out of the candidates running at the time, this went out weeks ago  Johnny__Motown   Feb-23-08 04:11 PM   #7 
  - Who cares when it went out? it is still a lie! An even bigger lie if it went out when Edwards  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:14 PM   #10 
  - You do know that Hillary is not suppose to fight back ...  butterfly77   Feb-23-08 06:43 PM   #52 
  - lies don't age--they exist in the present  rodeodance   Feb-23-08 05:10 PM   #45 
  - You should be ashamed of yourself  OhioBlues   Feb-23-08 04:20 PM   #24 
  - Hillary is accountable for her own record...  publicatlarge   Feb-23-08 04:17 PM   #14 
     - Thank you - that is what drives me crazy.  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:19 PM   #18 
     - It's not that people mistake Hillary for Bill, but it is impossible, at least to me  Voice for Peace   Feb-23-08 04:24 PM   #25 
     - I wish you would tell my husband that. nt.  cbayer   Feb-23-08 04:36 PM   #33 
     - You can't claim his administration as her experience on one hand  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 05:04 PM   #38 
     - 35 years  quakerboy   Feb-23-08 05:09 PM   #44 
  - Wow, that's almost as bad as this  jgraz   Feb-23-08 04:13 PM   #8 
  - When did they vote on this?  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:16 PM   #12 
  - That is from when Obama, who has a 100% rating from NARAL,  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 05:08 PM   #43 
  - Present!  MetricSystem   Feb-23-08 04:16 PM   #13 
     - Yeah, that's really working.  jgraz   Feb-23-08 04:20 PM   #22 
  - i like your pixels, they're real square.  chimpsrsmarter   Feb-23-08 04:15 PM   #11 
  - just a copy from the Obama camp.  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:17 PM   #15 
  - Hillary Clinton on Peru Trade  sandnsea   Feb-23-08 04:18 PM   #16 
  - Just like Obama, she supported it.  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:19 PM   #20 
     - Peru is not NAFTA  sandnsea   Feb-23-08 04:31 PM   #30 
     - The Peru Trade deal WAS an expansion of Nafta.  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:35 PM   #32 
        - Quoting WorldNutDaily  sandnsea   Feb-23-08 05:08 PM   #41 
        - Bush seeks NAFTA expansion to Peru  rodeodance   Feb-23-08 05:12 PM   #48 
        - Thank you for linking to Worldnutdaily.  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 05:11 PM   #47 
     - The fact is - it doesn't matter where I linked to, it's the same story on the Left and Right blogs.  pirhana   Feb-24-08 11:56 AM   #56 
  - K and R  citizen_jane   Feb-23-08 04:19 PM   #19 
  - Everything else aside, that is one fugging ugly ad. n/t  Straight Shooter   Feb-23-08 04:20 PM   #21 
  - Where's the inaccuarcy? Nafta was a horrible bill and Obama alway opposed it:  ProSense   Feb-23-08 04:25 PM   #26 
  - Very interesting ...  Tennessee Gal   Feb-23-08 04:25 PM   #27 
  - Obama's misleading NAFTA Ohio mailers doesn't match his record  UALRBSofL   Feb-23-08 04:29 PM   #28 
  - The Peru trade deal had improvements over NAFTA - even according to its critics  karynnj   Feb-23-08 04:30 PM   #29 
  - It had some, but not enough  pirhana   Feb-23-08 04:37 PM   #34 
  - Here is the front and back in pdf form  MassDemm   Feb-23-08 04:32 PM   #31 
  - MassDemm, the NY Times has already retracted the "BOON"  UALRBSofL   Feb-23-08 04:41 PM   #35 
  - That's a really good picture of Hillary  jgraz   Feb-23-08 04:55 PM   #36 
  - stop spreading lies--this has been retracted and YOU know it.  rodeodance   Feb-23-08 05:06 PM   #39 
  - Kicked.  avrdream   Feb-23-08 04:59 PM   #37 
  - Thanks  rodeodance   Feb-23-08 05:08 PM   #42 
  - Neither of them is going to the root of the problem  Armstead   Feb-23-08 05:10 PM   #46 
  - you are correct and no one listens  madrchsod   Feb-23-08 05:45 PM   #49 
  - And it's crazy that the two candidates left are the only two that did not support fair trade.  pirhana   Feb-24-08 12:00 PM   #57 
  - Thank you!  robbedvoter   Feb-23-08 06:39 PM   #50 
  - The Peru deal is NOT NAFTA. Get your facts straight...  zulchzulu   Feb-23-08 06:43 PM   #51 
  - Read the links I posted in my op - this was an expansion of Nafta  pirhana   Feb-24-08 11:52 AM   #54 
     - "This is not about Hillary vs Obama, it is about the farmers and the environment of Peru."  ProSense   Feb-24-08 12:15 PM   #58 
  - Obama is a blatant liar, glad Clinton called him out  OzarkDem   Feb-24-08 11:54 AM   #55 
  - Obama is a hypocrit. To say that he opposed NAFTA...  R_M   Feb-24-08 12:23 PM   #59 

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