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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 02:07 PM
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63. There are only two Democrats left - one a DLC person has been in the DLC leadership and
is married to a former DLC leader - unless he is DLC emeritas now - and the other is someone who demanded the DLC remove his name from their list when they tried to claim him, who has never been DLC.

Your links are ridiculous - Ford saying he could work even with Obama?? Would he have a real choice?
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  -Even though Obama isn't a card carrying member, he's got DLC written all over him mtnsnake  Feb-23-08 12:38 PM   #0 
  - If Hillary always beats republicans why are we in Iraq and no universal health care?  dmordue   Feb-23-08 12:39 PM   #1 
  - That's just silly. nt  Mezzo   Feb-23-08 07:29 PM   #103 
  - You mean, the organization Hillary's husband helped create?  Unsane   Feb-23-08 12:40 PM   #2 
  - You need to learn your history. If anything, it's the organization Al Gore helped to create. n/t  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 12:41 PM   #4 
  - Clinton, Gore and others  Emit   Feb-23-08 01:43 PM   #50 
     - Gore changed his rhetoric. His platform was still DLC in 2000  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:49 PM   #84 
        - Hi, jackson_dem. We can point fingers all we want  Emit   Feb-23-08 08:31 PM   #108 
  - Obama And HillBill Were ALWAYS The DLC Tandem... That Is WHY They Were Pushed and John Edwards Was..  DaLittle Kitty   Feb-23-08 09:34 PM   #113 
  - You have really convinced me to vote for triangulating Hil, a cardcarrying DLCer  skipos   Feb-23-08 12:40 PM   #3 
  - lol, I'm not trying to get you to change your vote. n/t  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 12:42 PM   #6 
  - So you're just throwing insults out there for shits 'n' giggles?  RandomKoolzip   Feb-23-08 03:12 PM   #78 
     - WTF are you talking about? What insults?  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 03:24 PM   #80 
  - She is very ready  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 01:18 PM   #33 
  - is there some difference between Obama's plans  paulk   Feb-23-08 01:46 PM   #55 
  - You think Hillary was underfunded in 2000?  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:49 PM   #85 
  - And yet the national journal gave him the most liberal rating of any candidate this year  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 12:42 PM   #5 
  - Hillary is always right up there, too. Just check out Progressive Punch anytime & you'll see  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 12:43 PM   #7 
  - How do you address the facts? Obama has a very progressive Senate record.  Unsane   Feb-23-08 12:46 PM   #8 
  - As does Hillary have a very progressive record...  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 12:52 PM   #11 
  - What the hell is a DLC trait?  Unsane   Feb-23-08 12:56 PM   #14 
     - It's never been done in all my years of voting  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 01:29 PM   #42 
  - That's weird  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 01:24 PM   #38 
  - Does the fact that Hillary is right up there make Obama a DLC candidate?  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 12:47 PM   #9 
     - Hillary's DLC traits have nothing to do with Obama's DLC trraits.  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 12:53 PM   #13 
     - There is no such thing as a "DLC trait".  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 01:02 PM   #20 
     - What DLC priorities and strategies has he rejected?  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:53 PM   #88 
        - The DLC was created to put a stop to populist uprisings in the ranks.  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 07:09 PM   #99 
           - Yes, and the populist candidate finished 3rd with 15-20% support  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 07:23 PM   #101 
              - "Are they a bunch of idiots and dupes?"  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 07:53 PM   #104 
                 - Wow, Obama is so amazing. He has duped the DLC!  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 08:09 PM   #105 
     - Exactly. Then why did you bring up Hillary  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 02:23 PM   #66 
     - "He distanced himself from them at every opportunity"  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:52 PM   #87 
  - How can he be liberal and vote for war  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 01:21 PM   #36 
  - Obama forcefully spoke out against the war at the time the vote was taking place.  Unsane   Feb-23-08 01:25 PM   #39 
     - Well, I did too  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 01:31 PM   #45 
        - No, I don't. Obama's rep was on the line at the time, as he was gearing up for a Senate run.  Unsane   Feb-23-08 01:37 PM   #46 
           - Obama was not in the US Senate at the time of the war  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 08:59 PM   #111 
  - On those rating scales, even some neocons score high points  Emit   Feb-23-08 01:29 PM   #43 
  - Sen. Richard Durbin, , D- Ill. scored as the most liberal Senator. - 95.2%  Breeze54   Feb-23-08 01:30 PM   #44 
  - I didn't know Durbin was running for President this year.  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 02:32 PM   #71 
     - Editing response: Kucinich scored higher than Obama  Breeze54   Feb-23-08 02:50 PM   #75 
  - I guess we all have different criteria for what constitutes "liberal," lol. nt  LWolf   Feb-23-08 01:45 PM   #54 
  - They gave DLC members the #1 and #4 rankings in 2004  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:51 PM   #86 
  - Big deal.  Eric J in MN   Feb-23-08 12:50 PM   #10 
  - Ok, you've convinced me not to vote for Obama (if MI gets another vote).  last1standing   Feb-23-08 12:53 PM   #12 
  - I'm not trying to convince you who to vote for  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 12:57 PM   #16 
     - So this is just negative advertizing. Ok, got it.  last1standing   Feb-23-08 01:08 PM   #26 
  - Hillary is one of the DLC's LEADERS!!!  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 12:56 PM   #15 
  - And?  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 01:00 PM   #17 
     - The real question is what is YOUR point?  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 01:05 PM   #22 
  - The DLC wishes Obama was one of them.  gmudem   Feb-23-08 01:01 PM   #18 
  - Al From is "proud" of "New Democrat" Obama and many DLC members have endorsed Obama  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:54 PM   #89 
  - coward  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-23-08 01:02 PM   #19 
  - The irony and desperation of your post is thick  MadHound   Feb-23-08 01:02 PM   #21 
  - Not just a member, a LEADER. n/t  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 01:06 PM   #23 
  - another Obama supporter who just can't face the truth  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 01:08 PM   #27 
  - When he was running for the Illinois Senate, he distanced himself from the DLC  parasim   Feb-23-08 01:06 PM   #24 
  - Finding ways to work with is not the same as being a closet believer  democrattotheend   Feb-23-08 01:07 PM   #25 
  - Look over there: Obama isn't a member of the DLC, but more DLC than Hillary. LOL! Here:  ProSense   Feb-23-08 01:10 PM   #28 
  - You're the only one who said Obama is more DLC than Hillary, not me. n/t  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 01:14 PM   #29 
  - Go HERE and watch the "Meet our Leaders" flash at the top of the page:  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 01:15 PM   #30 
  - He makes DLC look liberal  OzarkDem   Feb-23-08 01:16 PM   #31 
  - How? n/t  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 01:16 PM   #32 
  - Maybe because he is to the right of Hillary on trade, health care, and education?  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:55 PM   #91 
  - I'm starting to think so  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 01:25 PM   #40 
     - I can't stand republicans  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 01:41 PM   #49 
        - Im with you. Reaching out to repukes will only result in us getting wacked in the face  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 01:55 PM   #57 
           - My SO is "one of those assholes"  Emit   Feb-23-08 03:26 PM   #81 
           - Congratulations  devilindisguise   Feb-24-08 09:48 AM   #117 
           - Yeah  devilindisguise   Feb-23-08 08:55 PM   #110 
  - How positively Rovian! Attack the candidate's strength. Obama is NOT DLC -- that's his strength.  antigop   Feb-23-08 01:19 PM   #34 
  - That isn't his strength. DLC types don't buy it. Look at how he did in the most DLC states  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:55 PM   #92 
     - What, may I ask, is a "DLC state"?  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 08:14 PM   #106 
  - Wow. How low will Clinton supporters go? So now  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 01:19 PM   #35 
  - truth always hurts  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 01:22 PM   #37 
  - No, dear. I'm not hurt at all, but you seem to be.  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 01:26 PM   #41 
  - pathetic desperationg flop sweat, that's what that is:  Lerkfish   Feb-23-08 01:40 PM   #48 
     - I hear ya! It's 'almost' funny, but it smells like desperation. nt  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 01:45 PM   #52 
  - oh no you din't go there, did you? what a wonderful strategy!  Lerkfish   Feb-23-08 01:38 PM   #47 
  - Remember, this is NOT her campaign.  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 02:00 PM   #59 
     - good point, I stand corrected. still. desperate  Lerkfish   Feb-23-08 02:32 PM   #72 
  - THANK YOU.  LWolf   Feb-23-08 01:44 PM   #51 
  - and I thank YOU for being so well informed  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 02:18 PM   #65 
  - There are some who see beyond,  LWolf   Feb-23-08 02:24 PM   #67 
  - Yup. Obama is running on smoke and mirrors and the "alternative to the DLC" thing is a big one  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:56 PM   #94 
  - Don't YOU support the DLC?  lynyrd_skynyrd   Feb-23-08 01:45 PM   #53 
  - No. I don't subscribe to any groups. I take what I think are the best parts of the best candidates  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 02:02 PM   #60 
  - It's why I don't like him either. They're two peas in a pod, basically.  Forkboy   Feb-23-08 01:53 PM   #56 
  - Weird post. Hillary is actually in the DLC.  Vinca   Feb-23-08 01:59 PM   #58 
  - No, I'm not trying to say Barack is just as "bad".  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 02:07 PM   #62 
  - No, what MtnSnake is saying is that the DLC isn't bad.  NCevilDUer   Feb-23-08 08:19 PM   #107 
  - The facts and data beg to differ.  AtomicKitten   Feb-23-08 02:05 PM   #61 
  - So Kerry and Edwards weren't DLC in 2004 under the new Obama standard?  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:57 PM   #95 
  - There are only two Democrats left - one a DLC person has been in the DLC leadership and  karynnj   Feb-23-08 02:07 PM   #63 
  - Is CURRENTLY a leader, Karynnj...not has been. n/t  PassingFair   Feb-23-08 02:13 PM   #64 
  - Maybe you should do some research  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 02:25 PM   #68 
     - Yup. It is scary how he has snookered folks without them even looking at his DLC platform  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 06:57 PM   #96 
  - You're citing the National Journal? The personal magazine of the Washington insider crowd?  TheWraith   Feb-23-08 02:27 PM   #69 
  - I find it amazing how this thread was about Barack Obama, and the first responses are about Hillary  Mezzo   Feb-23-08 02:29 PM   #70 
  - So Obama is DLC by marriage?  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 02:35 PM   #73 
  - are you serious? (series)  Mezzo   Feb-23-08 03:10 PM   #76 
     - Excellent point, Mezzo. This was touched upon by another DU'er a few days ago, too...  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 03:20 PM   #79 
     - Guilt by association games huh?  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 03:34 PM   #82 
        - if the shoe fits...  Mezzo   Feb-23-08 07:29 PM   #102 
  - Why does that bother people when both candidates are discussed?  AtomicKitten   Feb-23-08 02:36 PM   #74 
     - It doesn't bother that both are discussed  Mezzo   Feb-23-08 03:11 PM   #77 
        - yes, there is much of that going on here - but it's a reflection of the conversation across America  AtomicKitten   Feb-23-08 03:37 PM   #83 
           - Thank you for that, Atomic Kitten  Mezzo   Feb-23-08 11:43 PM   #116 
  - DailyKos straw poll from a year ago?  dailykoff   Feb-23-08 06:55 PM   #90 
  - Please back sloooooowly away from the bong.  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 06:56 PM   #93 
  - Yup, he's not out of the mainstream.  Bushwick Bill   Feb-23-08 06:58 PM   #97 
  - What fu**** horseshit!  workinclasszero   Feb-23-08 06:59 PM   #98 
  - Horseshit? Why, because it's Obama? Too bad if you can't handle that your idol resembles DLC  mtnsnake   Feb-23-08 07:14 PM   #100 
  - heh...Obama "progressive".  Forkboy   Feb-23-08 08:37 PM   #109 
  - How can Obamites call Obama a progressive and then say Hillary isn't progressive?  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 09:46 PM   #114 
  - Obama is to the right of the DLC.  DURHAM D   Feb-23-08 09:02 PM   #112 
  - He's probably to the right of Hillary and Hill is considered a DLC template on the netroots  jackson_dem   Feb-23-08 09:47 PM   #115 
  - The Media Conflageration that is Obama  Horse with no Name   Feb-24-08 09:52 AM   #118 
 

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