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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #55
66. I'd guess that more white people are familiar with Tavis than black.
I just don't see him as having the influence he imagines he does.

This is really a non-issue.

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  -CNN is all over Obama for rejecting State of Black Union invitation. Freida5  Feb-23-08 07:42 AM   #0 
  - Sen. Obama has an election to win, Tavis wants publicity. I guess  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 07:45 AM   #1 
  - sure, don't want to upset the white folks who might be offended by the bluntness of the discussions  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:07 AM   #7 
  - And you're grasping at straws, as usual. Why isn't Mrs. Obama good  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 08:15 AM   #9 
  - the same reason Bill Clinton's no substitute for hearing from Hillary herself  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:18 AM   #13 
     - If Bill hadn't screwed up SC for her, he'd be front and center in every  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 08:19 AM   #15 
        - That's not the rationale Tavis is using for dismissing the substitution of Michelle  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:21 AM   #18 
        - HIs rationale is to make this an issue when it shouldn't be. He is  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 08:24 AM   #23 
           - How dare he question the actions of your icon?  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:30 AM   #30 
        - And I bet a months pay he'd be there instead of her...  ALiberalSailor   Feb-23-08 08:28 AM   #28 
  - So, on the one hand, people express "concern"  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 08:17 AM   #11 
  - He rejects Michelle the same as he would Bill Clinton as a substitute.  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:20 AM   #17 
     - Sorry, but I don't believe for a second Tavis would reject Bill  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 08:28 AM   #27 
        - Tavis said so  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:35 AM   #35 
           - Yes, Tavis says so...he also says that Sen Obama never  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 08:37 AM   #40 
              - that was later on, after the controversy erupted, that Obama sent the letter with the offer  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:42 AM   #46 
                 - You trust Ms Smiley on this matter. I don't  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 08:47 AM   #51 
                    - Are you a member of a 'cult' because of who you choose to believe?  bigtree   Feb-23-08 09:27 AM   #56 
                       - No.  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 09:31 AM   #59 
                          - then don't suppose (as you did) that those agreeing with Tavis are in a cult  bigtree   Feb-23-08 09:34 AM   #61 
                             - I didn't suppose anything about "those."  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 09:38 AM   #64 
                                - Does Tavis have a cult?  bigtree   Feb-23-08 09:44 AM   #68 
                                   - I don't know why people ask rhetorical questions  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 09:51 AM   #74 
                                      - you know  bigtree   Feb-23-08 09:51 AM   #75 
                                         - Honestly, I never get involved in these ad hominems  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 09:57 AM   #77 
  - give it a rest. I happened to catch Joe Madison's radio show when this occurred  Windy   Feb-23-08 08:20 AM   #16 
     - I'm black and I take an opposite position to the 'callers'  bigtree   Feb-23-08 08:24 AM   #22 
        - Err. Who died and left Smiley boss of the "black agenda?" (whatever the hell  Kahuna   Feb-23-08 09:40 AM   #65 
           - and more and more people in the black community now agree  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-23-08 08:27 PM   #104 
  - big deal....  madrchsod   Feb-23-08 08:15 AM   #8 
  - I imagine Sen. Obama feels the same way. nt  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 08:17 AM   #10 
  - Essence Mag: Why Obama should skip...  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 08:35 AM   #36 
  - Excellent find; end of discussion. nt  babylonsister   Feb-23-08 09:29 AM   #58 
  - in other words, since he's got the black vote anyway  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 09:44 AM   #67 
     - I think the idea is that he has to get elected so he can  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 10:05 AM   #81 
        - institutional institutional racism?  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 10:07 AM   #83 
           - I think...  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 10:13 AM   #84 
              - it's a sad reality  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 10:17 AM   #85 
  - "everyday" in paragraph 3 should be two words. One more reason to vote for Hillary.  fishwax   Feb-23-08 10:42 AM   #94 
  - And, if Hillary failed to show up? She would be vilified as usual.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-23-08 07:47 AM   #2 
  - Sliding slope... sliding slope...  mckeown1128   Feb-23-08 08:36 AM   #37 
     - I learned this craft from Obama supporters who always cry "racism"  goldcanyonaz   Feb-23-08 08:38 AM   #42 
     - Having secured the black vote BO is trying to 'whiten' himself for white votes  GDavis   Feb-23-08 09:12 AM   # 
     - I keep hearing about all these cry's of racism...but I don't  mckeown1128   Feb-23-08 10:36 AM   #91 
     - White victimhood. The gift that keeps on giving.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 08:47 AM   #50 
        - I think you mean black victimhood, but that's not something you would probably notice.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-23-08 10:06 AM   #82 
           - whoa...that's telling.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 10:34 AM   #88 
  - My guess is  chitty   Feb-23-08 07:48 AM   #3 
  - They'll forgive him AND defend him.  murielm99   Feb-23-08 07:57 AM   #5 
  - already forgiven. Actually, there was nothing to forgive him for.  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-23-08 10:09 PM   #105 
  - CNN Is Pushing Hillary  From The Left   Feb-23-08 07:56 AM   #4 
  - That is good, helps to offset MessNBC and Fox  Freida5   Feb-23-08 08:02 AM   #6 
  - That's a joke,  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:19 AM   #14 
  - gawd--please inform yourself before spouting off garbage.  rodeodance   Feb-23-08 09:33 AM   #60 
  - After searching on the internet; most of us AA have NO problems  oviedodem   Feb-23-08 08:18 AM   #12 
  - Clinton is trying to win also,  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:22 AM   #19 
  - Please stop, how did Hil "miss" the fisa voe then?  oviedodem   Feb-23-08 08:32 AM   #32 
  - No thanks, I won't stop  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:36 AM   #38 
     - You know, I'm sorry but there are some of us who cannot  tishaLA   Feb-23-08 09:37 AM   #63 
  - She's gotta follow different rules though, I know you're not surprised by this.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-23-08 08:33 AM   #33 
  - speak for yoursefl...please  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 09:46 AM   #70 
  - Obama has an election to win, just in case people have lost sight of that fact...  ALiberalSailor   Feb-23-08 08:22 AM   #20 
  - Oh BS,  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:25 AM   #24 
     - Oh, so is Chelsea running?  ALiberalSailor   Feb-23-08 08:27 AM   #26 
     - What the hell does that have to do  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:31 AM   #31 
     - Obama is not the one who offended AAs. Hillary did. So of course..  Kahuna   Feb-23-08 10:46 AM   #96 
  - Sorry, this won't put a dent in Obama despite your desperate  cali   Feb-23-08 08:23 AM   #21 
  - exactly, and at this point we see hillary's attendance as just another  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-23-08 10:15 PM   #107 
  - Will Hillary be talking about how LBJ made the civil rights movement possible?  BeyondGeography   Feb-23-08 08:26 AM   #25 
  - She might talk about how LBJ  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:28 AM   #29 
  - Obama refused as McClurkin won't be there  Bluenorthwest   Feb-23-08 09:56 AM   #76 
  - The State of the Black Union will improve if Obama is elected.  Vinca   Feb-23-08 08:34 AM   #34 
  - Thank you and most of us AA's understand that.  oviedodem   Feb-23-08 08:37 AM   #39 
  - Alcoholics Anonymous?  Dob Bole   Feb-23-08 10:26 PM   #109 
     - self-delete  Dob Bole   Feb-23-08 10:27 PM   #110 
  - exactly  ncdem1975   Feb-23-08 09:45 AM   #69 
  - Great post. Welcome to DU!  Kahuna   Feb-23-08 10:44 AM   #95 
  - the black vote, the black vote, the black vote!!!!!!!  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 09:50 AM   #73 
  - Shove it, CNN and Tavis  rocknation   Feb-23-08 08:38 AM   #41 
  - Why is that exactly?  seasonedblue   Feb-23-08 08:40 AM   #43 
     - Hillary dissed the state during the primary and after Obama's win. That's why! n/t  ProSense   Feb-23-08 08:42 AM   #45 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-23-08 08:44 AM   #48 
  - He deserves it. This reminds me of the McClurkin mess.  sampsonblk   Feb-23-08 08:42 AM   #44 
  - Yeah. Like CNN thought Tavis's State of the Union was such a crushingly important event LAST year.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 08:43 AM   #47 
  - Exactly!!!!  qanda   Feb-23-08 08:46 AM   #49 
  - Everyone knows that "black" leaders are supposed to go to "black" conventions...  zulchzulu   Feb-23-08 09:12 AM   #52 
  - is the state of the black union going to change if he goes to this event?lol  loveangelc   Feb-23-08 09:12 AM   #53 
  - Obama offered to send Michelle, THEY declined, end of story.  RBInMaine   Feb-23-08 09:20 AM   #54 
  - Tavis Smiley is an insufferable, pompous, egotistic ass. Ugh!  Kahuna   Feb-23-08 09:25 AM   #55 
  - I'd guess that more white people are familiar with Tavis than black.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 09:42 AM   #66 
     - really?  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 09:48 AM   #72 
        - My workplace is about 80% black.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 09:59 AM   #78 
        - ahh...what state are you in?  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 10:04 AM   #80 
           - GA.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 10:32 AM   #87 
              - smiley has been on black radio for some time  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 10:35 AM   #89 
                 - And many black folk don't listen to any sort of political radio either.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 10:40 AM   #93 
                    - yes...i know  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 11:03 AM   #99 
        - Tavis is a legend in his own mind. Period. nt  Kahuna   Feb-23-08 10:40 AM   #92 
           - he's pretty well-known in my circle  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 11:05 AM   #101 
  - alert on this - DU rules broken here - please raed them  asSEENonTV   Feb-23-08 09:28 AM   #57 
  - But, how can this be? The MSM is under orders by the vast right wing conspiracy  texas_indy   Feb-23-08 09:35 AM   #62 
  - Concentrating on Texas and Ohio, Pennsylvania are much more important  Imagevision   Feb-23-08 09:48 AM   #71 
  - You didn't get the memo? Ohio, Texas and PA don't matter either.  alphafemale   Feb-23-08 10:02 AM   #79 
  - It's his Sista Soulja moment; a smart move politically.  Unsane   Feb-23-08 10:20 AM   #86 
  - that was staged (and bad) performance art  noiretblu   Feb-23-08 10:36 AM   #90 
  - This won't hurt him; it only bruises Tavis's ego  NoBorders   Feb-23-08 10:49 AM   #97 
  - In the long run not going to this will help Obama  BrentTaylor   Feb-23-08 10:55 AM   #98 
  - long as it doesn't get a lot of media attention. - nt  sampsonblk   Feb-23-08 02:27 PM   #103 
  - So the CIA network is bothered by Obama's absence....  dailykoff   Feb-23-08 11:04 AM   #100 
  - CNN always seems to think they know what black America thinks.  Radical Activist   Feb-23-08 11:42 AM   #102 
  - SOBU officially said they did not invite Michelle, and Michelle did not offer.  LadyVT   Feb-23-08 10:10 PM   #106 
  - If he DID, you Hillars would be all over him for playing the race card.  ErnestoG   Feb-23-08 10:16 PM   #108 

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