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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 08:59 PM
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80. Read these:
Roland Martin:

Why Obama should skip Tavis Smiley's State of the Black Union

Sen. Barack Obama took a lot of heat last year from participants in Tavis Smiley's State of the Black Union annual confab, which was held in Virginia. To be fair, he was a little busy that day...announcing HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! . . . In his commentary, Smiley said he was going to snap on those who don't attend on Tuesday's show, demanding that they own up to black issues and zero in on social justice issues as outlined in the book he edited, "The Covenant with Black America."

Here is my analysis of the situation, and hopefully it will put this presidential campaign and the delicate task of navigating the waters of black politics in perspective.
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2. Obama must look forward, not in the past. The Louisiana primary, which he won handily, was on Saturday. Why go back to Louisiana for an event on Feb. 23? That is not to dismiss the needs of people along the Gulf Coast. But the only way he can truly help them is if he wins the nomination and the White House. Obama needs to be solely focused on Texas and Ohio. . . . If Tavis wanted to have an impact, he should have held his event before Louisiana or before the Mississippi primary. As the saying goes, bad planning on your part doesn't constitute a sense of urgency on mine.

3. He can't be defined again as the black candidate. Some will say he must avoid black folks to be more palatable to whites and Hispanics. I disagree. But you can't deny the reality that he's running for president of the United States and not president of Black America. The week of the South Carolina was all about race, and he knows that is not a winning discussion because of this nation's history. His campaign successfully beat back that issue since South Carolina, winning nearly all-white states like Utah, Idaho, Montana, Minnesota, Delaware, Connecticut, and Nebraska . . . Ask any campaign manager and they will tell you that when it comes to politics, especially in a close race, every minute matters. Candidates are on the phone lines campaigning, trying to raise money, and secure endorsements. . .

As an aside, when I asked my radio listeners on WVON in Chicago if Obama should skip the event, we got 29 calls in two hours, and only two said he should go. And this is a crowd that is normally in agreement with Smiley.

And check out some of the responses to Martin's commentary:
Obama should not attend this event. I don't know what is wrong with Black America; this State of the Union address to Black America is clearly needed because racism still exists. So with that knowledge, why are people still feeling they need to have Obama prove he cares about the Black community. Obama cannot win as the President of Black America- He needs to show other races that he is the president for everyone.
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No he should not attend! Is Tavis CRAZY! Why would he even ask him when he knows that his focus and all of his attention should be on the big states. Tavis is creating havoc for future President Obama.
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WINNING the nomination is far more important at this time than attending the SOBU.

How could anyone think a Presidential candidate like Barack who is 1.a member of the Congressional Black Caucus 2.worked on the south side of Chicago with ministers and community trying to help the disinfranchised with jobs, training programs etc. for three years3.been a long time member of a church that specifically focuses on uplifting the Black community, suddenly be disinterested in Black issues.
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I'm offended that Tavis has the audacity to insist ANY candidate should drop their campaigning to attend his event. The heat is ON and Candidates need to focus their attention, energies and finances on the next primary. I already know both Obama and Clinton ARE committed to addressing issues relative to the African American community. If Tavis really wants to hold politicians accountable.....have a One-on-One interview with John McCain and discuss why he and other Republican Candidates declined to attend the Presidential Forum held in Sept 07 at Morgan State. I'm sure he will decline....again.
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i think that tavis needs to stop hating on obama, he should know that it is really important for barack to concentrate on texas

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  -Obama! Go to New Orleans tomorrow, PLEASE Laura PackYourBags  Feb-22-08 04:49 PM   #0 
  - He offered to send his wife, but Tavis really wanted him.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 04:50 PM   #1 
  - Tavis said earlier this week that Michelle was not offered as a sub.  DURHAM D   Feb-22-08 04:54 PM   #3 
  - MIchelle herself said in an interview that she would go  tishaLA   Feb-22-08 05:04 PM   #24 
  - He did offer to send her, but Tavis decline.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:04 PM   #26 
  - Obama's Letter to Tavis Smiley  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 05:11 PM   #33 
  - thanks for the letter. it was good. but, I still wish he would go.  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-22-08 05:49 PM   #50 
  - He should have accepted Michelle. Barack needs to campaign.  RBInMaine   Feb-22-08 07:03 PM   #64 
  - Tavis is trying to create some controversy to BOOST ratings. A little shameless  TheDonkey   Feb-22-08 06:37 PM   #58 
  - The invite was to specifically to "candidates"  jasmine621   Feb-22-08 07:03 PM   #63 
  - Maybe his Oprah will go......  liberalnurse   Feb-22-08 05:03 PM   #22 
     - LOL! Your a riot liberalnurse...  golddigger   Feb-22-08 05:07 PM   #29 
        - Enjoy...  liberalnurse   Feb-22-08 05:20 PM   #46 
  - Did he give a reason for not participating?  gateley   Feb-22-08 04:52 PM   #2 
  - campaigning was the reason he gave in a letter to Tavis. nt.  IndianaJones   Feb-22-08 04:55 PM   #4 
  - Busy campaigning was what was published here last week. That's what I read, they had a link too.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-22-08 04:55 PM   #5 
  - Just that he was addressing issues of the black community while  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-22-08 04:57 PM   #8 
  - Texas and Ohio  stahbrett   Feb-22-08 04:57 PM   #9 
     - It's not just talking to a talk show host.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:01 PM   #16 
        - Ah, thanks for the clarification on that.  stahbrett   Feb-22-08 05:04 PM   #25 
        - It's a big event, but it's not THAT big  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 05:14 PM   #37 
           - Hi effie! I remember you from the last thread on this.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:17 PM   #42 
           - Last week I thought that Obama should attend  qanda   Feb-22-08 06:43 PM   #59 
              - Thanks - and no, I have no doubt that Tavis would have JUMPED to have Clinton there  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 06:57 PM   #61 
                 - So ridiculous.  anamandujano   Feb-22-08 07:37 PM   #68 
  - Tavis should not expect much when he schedules something like this  FLDem5   Feb-22-08 04:56 PM   #6 
  - That's why he did it - to get the exposure and help NOLA needs  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-22-08 04:58 PM   #10 
     - He could have scheduled it during LA? That would make more sense.  FLDem5   Feb-22-08 05:03 PM   #19 
     - Thanks for the link.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:14 PM   #36 
     - then he should have done it when the LA primary was held. Obama showed up in NOLA last month  cryingshame   Feb-22-08 05:15 PM   #39 
     - It was my understanding that Tavis Smiley  zidzi   Feb-22-08 05:16 PM   #41 
     - He has refused to endorse either one. He does not think it is appropriate. nt.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:26 PM   #48 
     - There is no reason to be disappointed in Obama on this  wndycty   Feb-22-08 06:36 PM   #57 
        - wow, I feel so torn on this. I am supposed to make 50 calls today  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-23-08 02:06 PM   #87 
           - Why are you disappointed in him?  EffieBlack   Feb-23-08 02:11 PM   #88 
              - For two reasons: 1) I want him to stand up a decry the injustice  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-23-08 10:46 PM   #92 
                 - Why does he have to go to New Orleans today to do Smiley's show to stand up for New Orleans?  EffieBlack   Feb-23-08 10:57 PM   #93 
  - Didn't I read that Tavis supports Clinton?  goclark   Feb-22-08 04:57 PM   #7 
  - I've seen her on his TV show twice recently  LSparkle   Feb-22-08 05:00 PM   #14 
  - He has not taken a postion  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:03 PM   #20 
  - Hillary will be there  carlotta   Feb-22-08 04:59 PM   #11 
  - that's good. wish he was going too.  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-22-08 05:00 PM   #13 
  - Clinton HAS to be there. She ignored the LA primary because it didn't count  cryingshame   Feb-22-08 05:16 PM   #40 
     - Stupid remark. Why am I not surprised?  anamandujano   Feb-22-08 07:39 PM   #70 
  - I'm not sure what to make of this  spokane   Feb-22-08 05:00 PM   #12 
  - You know - I'd like to think this is bigger than politics - the people  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-22-08 05:02 PM   #17 
  - Why did Tavis turned Michelle down  spokane   Feb-22-08 05:04 PM   #23 
     - He said he thought it was important enough to have the candidate  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-23-08 11:07 AM   #83 
     - simple answer....PUBLICITY!  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-23-08 10:46 PM   #91 
        - You know, Thats exactly how I feel  spokane   Feb-23-08 11:49 PM   #94 
  - Please give me an iota of information indicating that Tavis is a Hillary surrogate. nt.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:07 PM   #31 
  - yeah I think he should go  adoraz   Feb-22-08 05:01 PM   #15 
  - did the media make a big deal of Clinton ignoring LA's primary and saying it doesn't count?  cryingshame   Feb-22-08 05:18 PM   #43 
     - Could you throw me a link on that? nt.  cbayer   Feb-22-08 05:27 PM   #49 
  - Yes, this has been going on for weeks. For shame! He doesn't need them,  LadyVT   Feb-22-08 05:02 PM   #18 
  - What does that say about him?? It says he wannts to win two states where he is down in the polls.  Joshua N   Feb-22-08 05:14 PM   #35 
     - THANK you!  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 05:18 PM   #44 
     - what does it say about Hillary for pretty much ignoring their primary and saying they don't count?  cryingshame   Feb-22-08 05:19 PM   #45 
        - She is going to the event, despite desperately needing OH and TX  LadyVT   Feb-22-08 05:22 PM   #47 
        - It says that she was short on resources as we all found out later.  anamandujano   Feb-22-08 07:41 PM   #71 
  - The best thing he can do for them, and for us all, is to become president  Johnny__Motown   Feb-22-08 05:03 PM   #21 
  - He did not go last year due to campaigning, so why would he go now?  Joshua N   Feb-22-08 05:06 PM   #27 
  - I want him to go also. nt.  Kaylee   Feb-22-08 05:06 PM   #28 
  - Why should he go?  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 05:07 PM   #30 
  - I agree Effie ~ the best place is should be is campaigning  goclark   Feb-22-08 05:11 PM   #32 
  - Tavis is very good friends with, and a constituent of Maxine Waters, and guess who  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-22-08 06:08 PM   #53 
     - Thanks for the heads up ~ now it's all making sense  goclark   Feb-22-08 07:32 PM   #67 
     - About Tavis, sometimes we can be that way towards one another, if you know what I mean.  Joshua N   Feb-23-08 01:47 AM   #81 
  - Yep, since he thinks he has the nom. all wrap-up, who cares about Louisiana.  golddigger   Feb-22-08 05:13 PM   #34 
     - It's the exact opposite, read my previous post n/t  Joshua N   Feb-22-08 05:15 PM   #38 
     - Obviously he DOESN'T think the nom is all wrapped up - that's why he's campaigning where people are  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 06:54 PM   #60 
  - He is so close to NOLA  judaspriestess   Feb-22-08 05:58 PM   #51 
  - Um..  woolldog   Feb-22-08 06:04 PM   #52 
  - I read in an earlier thread that Tavis is amongst that black group that  monmouth   Feb-22-08 06:28 PM   #54 
  - Obama is only black when it suits his purpose, like playing the race card.  anamandujano   Feb-22-08 07:48 PM   #73 
     - That's bullshit  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 08:45 PM   #79 
     - So far I have been cordial on this board. I will keep it that way. But what you have said is the  Joshua N   Feb-23-08 01:50 AM   #82 
  - This is such a non-issue  wndycty   Feb-22-08 06:30 PM   #55 
  - yes he has...  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-22-08 07:45 PM   #72 
  - Got proof? Share please.  anamandujano   Feb-22-08 07:49 PM   #75 
     - Read these:  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 08:59 PM   #80 
  - I think he should go, personally.  Tatiana   Feb-22-08 06:34 PM   #56 
  - It seems that more white people are worried about this than black people  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 07:00 PM   #62 
     - EXACTLY!!!  wndycty   Feb-22-08 07:20 PM   #65 
     - You're right. Tavis Smiley is out of favor right now with his slanted commentaries.  Connie_Corleone   Feb-22-08 07:25 PM   #66 
     - I agree. Tavis is holding Obama to a higher standard than he ever held Bill Clinton.  Tatiana   Feb-22-08 08:10 PM   #76 
     - Exactly!  EffieBlack   Feb-22-08 08:35 PM   #78 
     - I don't see how it matters one iota what color you are. What  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-23-08 11:12 AM   #84 
  - Is this the annual 2 part tv forum? If so I need the time  goclark   Feb-22-08 07:37 PM   #69 
  - it's usually on C-Span, they run it live tomorrow...n/t  Tarheel_Dem   Feb-22-08 07:48 PM   #74 
     - Thanks!  goclark   Feb-22-08 08:29 PM   #77 
  - If you support Obama, you should want him to be campaigning in Ohio and Tx  NoBorders   Feb-23-08 11:14 AM   #85 
  - Most of the Panel and the Audience...  knowledgeispwr   Feb-23-08 11:19 AM   #86 
     - Whether they are voting for him or not, most black people are enormously proud of Obam  EffieBlack   Feb-23-08 02:13 PM   #89 
        - As a young black man, I agree  knowledgeispwr   Feb-23-08 02:54 PM   #90 
 

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