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miceelf Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #50
54. I guess
it comes down to how much weight you put on the McClurkin incident- was it a boneheaded stumble or did it reveal the "real Obama"?- versus his stated positions, and his history of talking about gay rights in hostile environments, like those same churches (which I haven't seen Sen. Clinton do- would be glad to hear if she has).

I guess I can see why some would be nervous about Obama on this issue, but I am not sure that Sen. Clinton is a lot stronger on it.
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  -Hold Obama's feet to the fire JoFerret  Feb-20-08 07:04 AM   #0 
  - i agree, and i think he would want us to push him... hard.  meow mix   Feb-20-08 07:07 AM   #1 
  - He'll need us to push our congress to let him passes what he proposes......  FrenchieCat   Feb-20-08 07:10 AM   #4 
  - that too =)  meow mix   Feb-20-08 07:13 AM   #8 
  - To push Congress, he will need reliable department heads  Bobbieo   Feb-20-08 07:22 AM   #12 
  - How will "we" be able to do that? Will an email suffice or will we  anamandujano   Feb-20-08 07:53 AM   #19 
  - It will depend on who he chooses for is cabinet members and department heads.  Bobbieo   Feb-20-08 07:09 AM   #2 
  - Agreed. And there will be no better way...  susankh4   Feb-20-08 07:09 AM   #3 
  - We do?  high density   Feb-20-08 07:12 AM   #5 
  - I don't think she would accept  JoFerret   Feb-20-08 07:13 AM   #6 
  - It's not going to happen  cali   Feb-20-08 07:13 AM   #7 
  - I know my Hillary and...  susankh4   Feb-20-08 07:18 AM   #10 
  - We are all going to have to live with this "choice"  JoFerret   Feb-20-08 07:20 AM   #11 
     - Sorry, all that comes through in your posts is bitter, sour  cali   Feb-20-08 07:45 AM   #17 
  - "We"? n/t  greguganus   Feb-20-08 07:24 AM   #14 
  - Yes. "We". Meaning all of us  JoFerret   Feb-20-08 07:32 AM   #15 
     - "We" is the operative word now....  susankh4   Feb-20-08 07:38 AM   #16 
        - The best decision for the party  yourguide   Feb-20-08 09:22 AM   #43 
  - I dont want her in the VP slot  yourguide   Feb-20-08 08:20 AM   #22 
  - Well, if you don't like it....  susankh4   Feb-20-08 08:24 AM   #24 
     - Nope  yourguide   Feb-20-08 08:31 AM   #26 
        - We'll have to wait and see who ends up on the ticket  susankh4   Feb-20-08 08:40 AM   #29 
           - I'm quite sure he wont be calling you  yourguide   Feb-20-08 08:49 AM   #32 
              - Again.  susankh4   Feb-20-08 08:58 AM   #35 
              - First off I am a woman  yourguide   Feb-20-08 09:05 AM   #37 
              - Again.  susankh4   Feb-20-08 09:08 AM   #38 
                 - and again...  yourguide   Feb-20-08 09:13 AM   #40 
              - Well,  miceelf   Feb-20-08 09:26 AM   #44 
                 - It's really hard to say.  susankh4   Feb-20-08 11:04 AM   #51 
                    - Well  miceelf   Feb-20-08 11:22 AM   #53 
              - Not to mention  Zodiak Ironfist   Feb-20-08 11:26 AM   #56 
  - Oh good grief  miceelf   Feb-20-08 09:18 AM   #42 
  - Questions...  yibbehobba   Feb-20-08 07:15 AM   #9 
  - No. those Reagan "democrats"  JoFerret   Feb-20-08 07:22 AM   #13 
     - DUers should really stop with the faux oracle thing.  cali   Feb-20-08 07:46 AM   #18 
        - Then his supporters should stop putting up "messiah" websites  RestoreGore   Feb-20-08 08:02 AM   #20 
           - lol  cali   Feb-20-08 08:18 AM   #21 
  - So being progressive means we're against faith and families? Way to buy into the RW frame.  Occam Bandage   Feb-20-08 08:22 AM   #23 
  - Being Progressive means....  susankh4   Feb-20-08 08:27 AM   #25 
     - And the SCS doesn't at all mean  Occam Bandage   Feb-20-08 08:32 AM   #27 
     - Agreed--well-said. I think the Democratic Party might not be God's Own Party, but  wienerdoggie   Feb-20-08 08:37 AM   #28 
        - Absolutely. You want to talk family values?  Occam Bandage   Feb-20-08 08:43 AM   #30 
        - Yep. You said it.  wienerdoggie   Feb-20-08 08:55 AM   #34 
        - If the Obama campaign  Bluenorthwest   Feb-20-08 09:46 AM   #49 
        - I agree...  susankh4   Feb-20-08 08:43 AM   #31 
           - Of course! I'm not talking overturning Roe v Wade, religion, etc. I'm talking  wienerdoggie   Feb-20-08 08:54 AM   #33 
           - Things like ....  susankh4   Feb-20-08 09:02 AM   #36 
              - I have no doubt he'll do his best.  wienerdoggie   Feb-20-08 09:09 AM   #39 
              - "Can"???  miceelf   Feb-20-08 09:32 AM   #48 
                 - I hope that is right  susankh4   Feb-20-08 11:02 AM   #50 
                    - I guess  miceelf   Feb-20-08 11:24 AM   #54 
           - yes  miceelf   Feb-20-08 09:30 AM   #47 
              - I did not say there is a problem.  susankh4   Feb-20-08 11:06 AM   #52 
                 - Okay  miceelf   Feb-20-08 11:26 AM   #55 
                    - You betcha!  susankh4   Feb-20-08 12:30 PM   #60 
     - Good googly  miceelf   Feb-20-08 09:29 AM   #46 
  - he's been clear  miceelf   Feb-20-08 09:17 AM   #41 
  - Not just Obama  octobit   Feb-20-08 09:29 AM   #45 
  - Exactly. Excellent post.  Kristi1696   Feb-20-08 11:27 AM   #57 
  - It's too late. After inauguration he will turn into Clinton circa 1994.  rug   Feb-20-08 11:30 AM   #58 
  - Absolutely and I for one intend to.  NastyRiffraff   Feb-20-08 11:52 AM   #59 
 

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