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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:28 PM
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100. What????
Audacity of hope ... It does have a nice ring. Does Edwards have the trademark on it to prove Obama is ripping him off?

Not if you ask the Obama camp, which had no formal response to Mrs. Edwards's comment but pointed out Obama's history with the phrase.

The junior senator from Illinois referenced "audacity of hope" in his 1995 memoir "Dreams From My Father." The line, they said, was taken from a sermon preached by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright titled "The Audacity to Hope."


Furthermore, as recounted in a Christian Science Monitor article last month, "Wright impressed Obama, and by 1988 the younger man found himself in the pews, listening to parishioners clap and cry out as Wright spoke of 'the audacity of hope."

As the Chicago Tribune wrote in January, Obama based his 2004 speech to the Democratic National Convention on Wright's "Audacity to Hope" sermon.


In His Candidate’s Voice

The speech lit a fire. Meet Obama's editor.
By Richard Wolffe
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Updated: 7:22 PM ET Jan 6, 2008

Jon Favreau has the worst and the best job in political speechwriting. His boss is a best-selling author who doesn't really need his help, having written the 2004 speech that catapulted him onto the national stage. At the same time, the same boss also happens to be capable of delivering a speech in ways that can give his audience the goosebumps.
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"What is your theory of speechwriting?" Obama asked.

"I have no theory," admitted Favreau. "But when I saw you at the convention, you basically told a story about your life from beginning to end, and it was a story that fit with the larger American narrative. People applauded not because you wrote an applause line but because you touched something in the party and the country that people had not touched before. Democrats haven't had that in a long time."

The pitch worked. Favreau and Obama rapidly found a relatively direct way to work with each other. "What I do is to sit with him for half an hour," Favreau explains. "He talks and I type everything he says. I reshape it, I write. He writes, he reshapes it. That's how we get a
finished product.

"It's a great way to write speeches. A lot of times, you write something, you hand it in, it gets hacked by advisers, it gets to the candidate and then it gets sent back to you. This is a much more intimate way to work."

Some speeches are much more the product of the candidate himself. Obama e-mailed Favreau his draft of his announcement speech in Springfield, Ill., at 4 a.m. on the morning of the campaign launch last February.

Now Favreau has his own team: Adam Frankel, a 26-year-old who worked with Ted Sorensen on his memoirs, and Ben Rhodes, a 30-year-old who worked with Lee Hamilton on the 9/11 commission's report.

Together they had just three weeks to work on Obama's game-changing speech at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner in Iowa and even less time to work on Obama's victory speech last week. Weaving together lines from previous speeches—and even Obama's books—the team now knows the themes and language that reflect the candidate's voice.

"Even if we had finished third, we would go on to New Hampshire," says Favreau of the victory speech plan. "I had a winning and a keep-fighting speech, but in the end they weren't that different. The message out of Iowa was one of unity and reaching out across party lines. We knew we were going to do well with independents, young people and first-time voters. We knew the message was similar to what he said at the 2004 convention."

The result was a speech with a light touch on the most striking point about Obama's victory: the historic nature of a black candidate's win in the almost entirely white state of Iowa. "The first line was simply, 'They said this day would never come'," says Favreau. "Even when we do speeches to African-American crowds, it's hinted at and it's understood. It's not hammered over the head."

So how hard is it to write for someone who has written his own books and speeches to critical acclaim? "People say that, but it's actually a dream come true," says Favreau. "You always hope that the person can match the lofty moment that the writer dreams up. To have someone who can do that makes it a joy to work with him."

URL: http://www.newsweek.com/id/84756
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  -Elizabeth Edwards: Obama Is a Copycat durrrty libby  Feb-18-08 06:02 PM   #0 
  - Looks like  tyne   Feb-18-08 06:04 PM   #1 
  - You should read your own article.  wienerdoggie   Feb-18-08 06:04 PM   #2 
  - My opinion of Liz just went down.  TheWraith   Feb-18-08 06:05 PM   #3 
  - read all about it....get here folks........Elizebeth was just thrown under the Obama bus  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-18-08 06:08 PM   #12 
  - That article was published Aug 14, 2007..........  TheDebbieDee   Feb-18-08 06:13 PM   #22 
  - It shows a long standing pattern and lack of character  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:17 PM   #30 
     - Okay, I get it.....Thanks for pointing that out.  TheDebbieDee   Feb-18-08 06:30 PM   #47 
     - it shows that you are as durrrty as your candidate  JackORoses   Feb-18-08 07:50 PM   #72 
     - no doubt  Moochy   Feb-18-08 10:50 PM   #90 
     - As for character, passsing this off as if it were recent reflects on character...bad character  earthlover   Feb-18-08 08:03 PM   #78 
     - We are surrounded by tricksters. nt  Snotcicles   Feb-18-08 08:18 PM   #81 
     - What????  stillcool47   Feb-18-08 11:28 PM   #100 
  - NO, she was not. The OP is misquoting an old article that does NOT refer to today's  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:13 PM   #24 
  - There is no "misquoting" and it shows a pattern and lack of character  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:18 PM   #33 
  - Obama wrote his book in 1995. Edwards started his campaign in 2003. Who copied who???  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:19 PM   #36 
  - There's no misquote.  rinsd   Feb-18-08 06:25 PM   #42 
  - right before our eyes. Shameful  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 06:17 PM   #32 
  - ELIZABETH EDWARDS DID NOT SAY THAT - read the original article  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 06:26 PM   #44 
  - And this negates the OP how, exactly?  Sapphocrat   Feb-18-08 06:40 PM   #55 
  - the title is misleading, it puts words in Elizabeths mouth  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 07:46 PM   #69 
     - I wasn't even paying attention to the OP title, but the quote.  Sapphocrat   Feb-18-08 08:18 PM   #82 
  - If your beloved Obama is elected.....  murbley40   Feb-20-08 09:04 AM   #107 
  - Agreed  lisainmilo   Feb-20-08 09:51 AM   #112 
  - You knew that was coming.  Sapphocrat   Feb-18-08 06:37 PM   #52 
  - One more down and counting!  in_cog_ni_to   Feb-18-08 06:51 PM   #61 
  - Yep. There goes Elizabeth Edwards..under the wheels of the Obamanation bus.  Beausoir   Feb-18-08 07:52 PM   #74 
     - So you call people "scum" and yu don't think you are throwing people under the bus?  earthlover   Feb-18-08 08:06 PM   #79 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-08 10:47 PM   #87 
  - That is not a quote from Edwards, it's a paraphrase.  mzmolly   Feb-19-08 11:45 AM   #104 
  - Obama ..The Cliche' Man...  libertee   Feb-18-08 06:06 PM   #4 
  - Sound Bite Central. I can do it too. All Fluff No Stuff  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:08 PM   #9 
     - You can do it too!  Moochy   Feb-18-08 10:53 PM   #92 
  - Oh no....are we going to have to add Elizabeth to the list of fallen DU heroes?  rinsd   Feb-18-08 06:06 PM   #5 
  - No, but I'm going to add the OP for not being able to read.  hnmnf   Feb-18-08 06:08 PM   #11 
  - OP uses the article's title and included the reference to Obama's book.  rinsd   Feb-18-08 06:11 PM   #16 
  - so, OP can't read but you judged her: "And yes, Elizabeth Edwards was wrong here."  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 06:19 PM   #35 
     - divisive Clinton effort fails again - Elizabeth never said what the WaPo Title says  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 06:27 PM   #45 
     - doublethink  Sapphocrat   Feb-18-08 06:43 PM   #59 
  - Yep  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-18-08 06:38 PM   #54 
  - You should learn to read  hnmnf   Feb-18-08 06:06 PM   #6 
  - He doesn't discriminate. He steals from everyone.  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:10 PM   #15 
  - Posting name so very appropriate.  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:12 PM   #19 
  - Ha! Oh so true.  Little Star   Feb-18-08 06:13 PM   #20 
  - True.  AX10   Feb-18-08 07:57 PM   #77 
  - lol  jackson_dem   Feb-19-08 12:20 AM   #102 
  - Does that mean Edwards stole from Wright?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Feb-18-08 06:38 PM   #53 
  - well, if this proves anything  Magic Rat   Feb-18-08 06:07 PM   #7 
  - Give me a fucking break.  graywarrior   Feb-18-08 06:07 PM   #8 
  - This article is from last summer. How is it relevant now?  Reader Rabbit   Feb-18-08 06:08 PM   #10 
  - Because Obama is copying Deval Patrick lock, stock and barrel  jackson_dem   Feb-18-08 06:13 PM   #21 
  - Guess you didn't see this:  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:21 PM   #38 
     - Did he say he "borrowed" his entire campaign?  jackson_dem   Feb-18-08 06:24 PM   #41 
        - Damn your right! "I represent real hope for change." "No experience is better than the wrong kind  Garbo 2004   Feb-18-08 07:17 PM   #65 
  - Why is he old RW slime related to the Clinton's relevant? we see it all the time on DU!  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 06:16 PM   #28 
  - What is the point?  rove karl rove   Feb-18-08 06:09 PM   #13 
  - Google is your friend.  Jamastiene   Feb-18-08 06:16 PM   #26 
  - THiS IS TRUE! OBAMA IS A COPYCAT. HE copies other people's rhetoric  JKaiser   Feb-18-08 06:09 PM   #14 
  - Elizabeth Edwards on Hillary's healthcare plan: she ripped us off  ProSense   Feb-18-08 06:11 PM   #17 
  - "Edwards blasts Clinton" .. "Hillary.. copied her husband's health care proposal"  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 07:48 PM   #71 
  - AUGUST 2007 ! This is a surmise taken from an article in Progressive Mag and refers to AUDACITY  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:11 PM   #18 
  - Bill Clinton ran on HOPE 2 years before Obama's book. n/t  Jamastiene   Feb-18-08 06:17 PM   #31 
     - Yeah.. I think its a common theme :-)  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:18 PM   #34 
  - based on comments above Eliz goes the way of Joe Wilson--!!  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 06:13 PM   #23 
  - K&R...glad to see some people are exposing Obama for the charlatan that he is...n/t  CyberPieHole   Feb-18-08 06:15 PM   #25 
  - Glad to see Hillary supporters STILL don't bother to read. Demographics matter.  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:17 PM   #29 
     - an ms. ELITIST speaks. You have a have of broad brushing Clinton voters as being stupid Shame on you  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 07:12 PM   #64 
  - Thanks for this. Will mail to Elizabeth and see if she appreciates being used in a  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:16 PM   #27 
  - Happy to help. He was a thief then and now. I'm sure Elizabeth will agree  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:20 PM   #37 
  - Audacity of Hope, written 1995. Edwards campaign, 2003. Which came first?  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:22 PM   #39 
  - Your getting mixed up with all his thievery. That phrase was stolen from  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:25 PM   #43 
     - Obama is a "liar and sham"? Why, I think that's slander. Or libel. Or both.  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:41 PM   #56 
     - or TRUTH  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 06:43 PM   #57 
     - You have to personally know someone for it to be slander  Seeker30   Feb-18-08 11:05 PM   #94 
        - Good thing you hillbots never get out of the house  Moochy   Feb-19-08 12:21 AM   #103 
     - Dupe  Garbo 2004   Feb-18-08 07:11 PM   #62 
     - "stolen" or "inspired by?" It wasn't exact. And oh yes, the NYT's piece where since they couldn't  Garbo 2004   Feb-18-08 07:11 PM   #63 
        - Get off the Hopium. It kills brain cells  durrrty libby   Feb-18-08 07:19 PM   #66 
           - Unlike you I don't cheerlead for any candidate. I detest Rovian tactics, whoever uses them.  Garbo 2004   Feb-18-08 07:45 PM   #68 
  - pay attention, Elizabeth accused Hillary of stealing health care plan from John  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 07:50 PM   #73 
  - LOL, you think Elizabeth is gonna care about a GDP pissing match?  rinsd   Feb-18-08 06:23 PM   #40 
  - make sure you mail her the ENTIRE thread  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-18-08 06:27 PM   #46 
  - Good idea  tyne   Feb-18-08 06:31 PM   #48 
  - Amen. Elizabeth is too gracious to have her words twisted like this  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 06:32 PM   #49 
  - How were her words twisted?  Maribelle   Feb-18-08 06:35 PM   #51 
  - she didn't level an accusation against Obama, but she has accused Hillary of stealing ideas  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 07:52 PM   #75 
  - Umm...you know nothing about Elizabeth Edwards. And you rpathetic patronizing attitude toward her  Beausoir   Feb-18-08 11:20 PM   #98 
  - She might not think it's a smear. She might think it's the truth.  Maribelle   Feb-18-08 06:34 PM   #50 
  - She's also a tad smarter than the average Hillary supporter, judging from this thread and the  K Gardner   Feb-18-08 06:43 PM   #58 
  - and she did not say what the OP title attributes to her  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-18-08 07:54 PM   #76 
  - Oh yea!  murbley40   Feb-20-08 09:11 AM   #108 
  - I totally agree  Marie26   Feb-18-08 06:43 PM   #60 
  - Or repackaging.  seasonedblue   Feb-18-08 07:48 PM   #70 
     - It's really Axelrod's words, Axelrod's themes.  Marie26   Feb-18-08 08:31 PM   #84 
  - Obama: "we didn't steal it from John Edwards, we stole it from the Reverend."  Skip Intro   Feb-18-08 07:23 PM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-08 08:10 PM   #80 
  - The article in OP is from August 2007 & the title is not what Elizabeth Edwards said.n/t  Garbo 2004   Feb-18-08 08:24 PM   #83 
  - Wow, more uplifting and unifying rhetoric from supporters of the "Candidate of Hope"..  11 Bravo   Feb-18-08 08:39 PM   #86 
  - More scum from camp Obama. Last week it was Chelsea, this week it's Elizabeth Edwards.  Beausoir   Feb-18-08 10:49 PM   #89 
  - Classy, hopeful, and change-y.  Hobarticus   Feb-18-08 10:55 PM   #93 
  - LOL hi new ignoree!  krabigirl   Feb-18-08 11:08 PM   #95 
  - She's right  demo dutch   Feb-18-08 08:32 PM   #85 
  - The blowback on this is what is gonna hurt!  FrenchieCat   Feb-18-08 10:48 PM   #88 
  - It looks like Edwards stole "audacity of hope" from Obama, if you read the article  Johnny__Motown   Feb-18-08 10:51 PM   #91 
  - Obama took the title of his more recent book, The Audacity of Hope, from the first sermon :by Wright  indimuse   Feb-20-08 09:11 AM   #109 
  - Way to misquote and misrepresent!!  AZBlue   Feb-18-08 11:09 PM   #96 
  - Obamaroids will throw ANYONE under the wheels of the bus. Chelsea, Elizabeth....anyone.  Beausoir   Feb-18-08 11:13 PM   #97 
  - Yep. Pretty crowded under that bus.  Hoof Hearted   Feb-19-08 12:18 PM   #106 
  - Elizabeth... come on...  zulchzulu   Feb-18-08 11:21 PM   #99 
  - 1988....who stole what???????  madfloridian   Feb-18-08 11:34 PM   #101 
  - Edward's Two Americas speech was hardly an original.  Skwmom   Feb-19-08 11:59 AM   #105 
  - Successful politicians are opportunists  Anarcho-Socialist   Feb-20-08 09:35 AM   #110 
  - yes, Joe Wilson, the Hero of DU is under that bus. Very good company  rodeodance   Feb-20-08 09:46 AM   #111 
 

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