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64. Posted by Turner at the link
A lot of people of color and people with non mainstream gender identities have felt outside of the ideal America that we are all sold as children. 40 years ago, fire hoses and dogs were turned on African Americans, civil rights fighters were lynched and assassinated, in the south Black kids couldn't play on the same Little League team or swim at the same municipal pool as White kids.

America hasn't always been America to everyone. Let's acknowledge that while America has much to be proud of, there are plenty of reasons for various people to feel let down by this country. However, if we don't work to correct that which lets us down, we have only our selves to blame.
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  -Michelle Obama makes a boo-boo bidenista  Feb-18-08 02:47 PM   #0 
  - No boo-boo at that link.  tekisui   Feb-18-08 02:49 PM   #1 
  - We've missed you bidenista....  scheming daemons   Feb-18-08 02:49 PM   #2 
  - The ol' payment slur, hysterical.  elixir2   Feb-18-08 04:05 PM   #131 
  - She was never proud of this country before he ran?  AX10   Feb-18-08 02:50 PM   #3 
  - It's all about the O. That's just an awful thing to say. Last 8 years, okay, I can buy that.  chimpymustgo   Feb-18-08 02:53 PM   #12 
  - Sad Desperate Attempt at Spin by Hillaries lowest common denominator supporters  Moochy   Feb-18-08 02:56 PM   #20 
  - They believe all their good press.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-18-08 02:58 PM   #25 
  - I know  gaspee   Feb-18-08 02:59 PM   #27 
  - I was proud to see Americans kick the GOP out of power..  AX10   Feb-18-08 03:03 PM   #34 
  - now or never  enid602   Feb-18-08 03:20 PM   #84 
     - Did I miss something? He said he won't run again if we don't give him is way?  Hoof Hearted   Feb-18-08 07:27 PM   #166 
        - strange  enid602   Feb-18-08 07:38 PM   #168 
           - Michelle said he would run this one time and never again? Did she give a reason?  Hoof Hearted   Feb-18-08 07:46 PM   #170 
  - Wow. Obamarosa really put her foot in it this time.  smalll   Feb-18-08 02:59 PM   #28 
  - Can we avoid nicknames punk?  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:00 PM   # 
  - You Obamites have been using nick-names on HRC from day one.  AX10   Feb-18-08 03:04 PM   #37 
  - So, are you going to be leaving our community after Hill concedes or are you just planning to  John Q. Citizen   Feb-18-08 03:10 PM   #56 
  - You made me laugh  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:10 PM   #58 
  - Really? I've been calling her either "Hillary" or "Senator Clinton"  Arkana   Feb-18-08 05:30 PM   #159 
  - I will drop one if you drop one.  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 03:21 PM   #86 
  - I kind of like Obamarosa. It's kind of like "sposa" (meaning wife in Italian) and Obama.  elixir2   Feb-18-08 04:06 PM   #134 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-18-08 06:38 PM   #162 
  - Obamarosa! ROFLMAO! I knew there was a reason I found Michelle Obama so annoying.  TheGoldenRule   Feb-19-08 07:28 AM   #181 
  - Yes, You would think all Americans have been proud of  Mags   Feb-18-08 03:08 PM   #48 
  - Posted by Turner at the link  Maraya1969   Feb-18-08 03:12 PM   #64 
     - excellent post Maraya.  woolldog   Feb-18-08 04:17 PM   #143 
  - She will make one heckuva first lady, won't she?  pirhana   Feb-18-08 02:51 PM   #4 
  - You might want to elaborate  Moochy   Feb-18-08 02:51 PM   #5 
  - It will be soon that Hill concedes, and all the smear artists will either have to shut up or  John Q. Citizen   Feb-18-08 03:05 PM   #40 
     - I wonder how many Hillary supporters will not vote for President  juajen   Feb-18-08 03:09 PM   #52 
     - I would write in Hillary Clinton first!  cd3dem   Feb-18-08 03:15 PM   #70 
     - Another Pleasant Hillary Supporter "chocking on my own vomit"  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:17 PM   #76 
     - Well at least you won't be saying that her at DU much longer. Thems the rules.  John Q. Citizen   Feb-18-08 03:35 PM   # 
     - That doesn't suprise me a bit. You go vote for the devil. That will show us all!  John Q. Citizen   Feb-18-08 03:20 PM   #83 
     - And some of us know that not voting is a vote for McCain  proud2Blib   Feb-18-08 07:36 PM   #167 
     - It ain't over til it's over!! Remember that.  Mags   Feb-18-08 03:10 PM   #57 
        - The supers will just declare for Obama, soon if Hill won't face reality. The party isn't  John Q. Citizen   Feb-18-08 03:30 PM   #107 
  - So she never felt proud of her country before he ran for President?  ruggerson   Feb-18-08 02:51 PM   #6 
  - That's some extrapolation!  AtomicKitten   Feb-18-08 02:52 PM   #9 
  - Extrapolation?  MonkeyFunk   Feb-18-08 03:30 PM   #109 
  - What extrapolation?  demokatgurrl   Feb-18-08 04:59 PM   #156 
  - yep - seems that's THE thing to come away from her talk...  TankLV   Feb-18-08 02:53 PM   #11 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-08 03:08 PM   #49 
  - Is that exactly what she said? In that context?  MISSDem   Feb-18-08 03:22 PM   #89 
  - This won't hurt  gaspee   Feb-18-08 02:51 PM   #7 
  - She got carried away; it's allowed  BeyondGeography   Feb-18-08 02:57 PM   #23 
     - Remember when Teresa said Laura bush had "never worked"?  Straight Shooter   Feb-18-08 03:29 PM   #103 
        - That is not what Teresa said  karynnj   Feb-18-08 04:21 PM   #146 
           - Well, there you have it.  Straight Shooter   Feb-18-08 04:42 PM   #152 
           - I think that was the ONLY time I watched the view  karynnj   Feb-18-08 07:07 PM   #164 
           - *dupe* n/t  Straight Shooter   Feb-18-08 04:43 PM   #153 
  - She's such an egomaniac. Missed you Bidenista!  goldcanyonaz   Feb-18-08 02:51 PM   #8 
  - Look what kind of Monster....  grrr050   Feb-18-08 03:18 PM   #78 
  - why did i take you off of ignore?  GoPsUx   Feb-18-08 02:52 PM   #10 
  - Well there is a positive side effect  Moochy   Feb-18-08 02:54 PM   #16 
  - That'll win them over in the "Proud To Be An American" states.  Straight Shooter   Feb-18-08 02:53 PM   #13 
  - I love that "Obama/McClurkin" emotcon.  AX10   Feb-18-08 03:00 PM   #31 
     - Thanks. It used to say "Traitors In The White House" n/t  Straight Shooter   Feb-18-08 03:15 PM   # 
  - More fake outrage from the Hillbots  NJSecularist   Feb-18-08 02:53 PM   #14 
  - yeah--I saw all the outrage/ HATE/name calling directed at Chelsea last few days.  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 03:26 PM   #96 
  - Um.... have YOU been proud of this country during the Bush years?  scheming daemons   Feb-18-08 02:53 PM   #15 
  - I agree. Plenty of times I haven't been proud. But many times that I have.  chimpymustgo   Feb-18-08 03:02 PM   #33 
  - She is saying what she feels. What many of us feel in this country.  NJObamaWoman   Feb-18-08 03:36 PM   #114 
  - Well, if that's what she said  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:05 PM   #43 
     - That "crowd" was never going to vote for a Democrat anyway....  scheming daemons   Feb-18-08 03:16 PM   #73 
        - I agree  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:22 PM   #88 
  - the right wing media  griffi94   Feb-18-08 02:54 PM   #17 
  - What did she say that was incorrect?  Voltaire   Feb-18-08 02:54 PM   #18 
  - Bad day for the Obama's  kennetha   Feb-18-08 02:56 PM   #19 
  - At least Obama refers to "Us".... Clinton only refers to "Me".  scheming daemons   Feb-18-08 02:59 PM   #26 
  - And totally feeds into the wingnuts mantra for years that Democrats were not proud of this county.  Maribelle   Feb-18-08 03:06 PM   #45 
  - i am still not "proud of my country"  noiretblu   Feb-18-08 02:57 PM   #21 
  - I haven't always been proud of our country either  kennetha   Feb-18-08 03:01 PM   #32 
     - it was not the most politically astute thing to say  noiretblu   Feb-18-08 03:05 PM   #41 
  - What's unbelievable is Hillary's army  bowens43   Feb-18-08 02:57 PM   #22 
  - rotting stench of desperation  Moochy   Feb-18-08 02:58 PM   #24 
  - Michelle made the comment, not some poster.  Mags   Feb-18-08 03:15 PM   #72 
  - if obama can't get his wife to stop making  griffi94   Feb-18-08 02:59 PM   #30 
  - I was just thinking the same thing about Bill.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-18-08 03:03 PM   #36 
     - yeah  griffi94   Feb-18-08 03:05 PM   #39 
        - If not...  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-18-08 03:06 PM   #44 
           - i didn'y say  griffi94   Feb-18-08 03:15 PM   #71 
  - HA HA HA--YOU LOOK AROUND lately at the Obamacampers sewage?? HUH  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 03:28 PM   #101 
  - I think you should quote from the article.  juajen   Feb-18-08 02:59 PM   #29 
  - We suck - until that is, BO graced us with his presence  robbedvoter   Feb-18-08 03:03 PM   #35 
  - I guess all the extreme nationalist patriots are offended  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:04 PM   #38 
  - puhleez, that is some desperate spin  bidenista   Feb-18-08 03:07 PM   #46 
  - Nice projection  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:09 PM   #55 
     - yes, that's it  bidenista   Feb-18-08 04:04 PM   #130 
        - No you may not be a racist  Moochy   Feb-18-08 04:05 PM   #132 
        - more ad hominems  bidenista   Feb-18-08 04:09 PM   #137 
           - I agree with her statement.  Moochy   Feb-18-08 04:11 PM   #139 
              - her statement has nothing to do with american exceptionalism  bidenista   Feb-18-08 04:14 PM   #140 
              - A Silly distraction would be to attempt to engage with you in an honest discourse  Moochy   Feb-18-08 04:17 PM   #142 
                 - and another ad hominem in response to a serious point  bidenista   Feb-18-08 04:32 PM   #149 
                    - Yeah you get bonus points for being  Moochy   Feb-18-08 04:37 PM   #151 
              - who the f* says one needs "exceptionalism" to be proud of something?  robbedvoter   Feb-18-08 10:34 PM   #178 
        - oops dup  Moochy   Feb-18-08 04:06 PM   #133 
  - May not be the best country ever -- by a long shot  kennetha   Feb-18-08 03:07 PM   #47 
  - right  griffi94   Feb-18-08 03:08 PM   #50 
  - Last time I felt this way was when Gore Vidal made a similar assertion on Charlie Rose  robbedvoter   Feb-18-08 03:19 PM   #79 
     - Nationalism is a poison  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:34 PM   #111 
        - Did you actually read my post or just knee jerk attack me?  robbedvoter   Feb-18-08 03:37 PM   #115 
           - Of course i read it, it was short and to the point  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:40 PM   #121 
  - Yes America did suck before BO. I never dreamed that we fill have  NJObamaWoman   Feb-18-08 03:13 PM   #66 
  - you are a perfect example of  madrchsod   Feb-18-08 03:26 PM   #97 
  - Remember he hasn't won yet,,,  butterfly77   Feb-18-08 04:25 PM   #147 
  - Its does have that flavor.  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 03:19 PM   #82 
  - "For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country"  juajen   Feb-18-08 03:05 PM   #42 
  - I admit  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:09 PM   #53 
  - You folks must be desperate. Why should I be surprised when Bill doesn't know what *IS* *IS*  ShortnFiery   Feb-18-08 03:11 PM   #60 
  - Straight out of the Rush Limbaugh playbook.  Beausoir   Feb-18-08 03:17 PM   #77 
  - i'll point this out one more time  griffi94   Feb-18-08 03:19 PM   #81 
  - didn't we even send money and some  griffi94   Feb-18-08 03:11 PM   #61 
  - Mrs. Obama is right and if Clinton uses that it will backfire on her  NJObamaWoman   Feb-18-08 03:17 PM   #74 
  - In Your Dreams  Crisco   Feb-18-08 04:28 PM   #148 
  - what's more damning..  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:21 PM   #87 
  - get the quote right, then go into your faux outrage  GoldieAZ49   Feb-18-08 08:19 PM   #176 
     - "get the quote right, then go into your faux outrage"  BigDDem   Feb-19-08 08:51 AM   #182 
  - Oh Please has anyone researched her life or picked up Newsweek.  NJObamaWoman   Feb-18-08 03:09 PM   #51 
  - i first realized i was an american when i was 18  noiretblu   Feb-18-08 03:13 PM   #67 
  - The Hillbots shouldn't push too hard for an explanation of this  BeyondGeography   Feb-18-08 03:14 PM   #69 
  - I admire her life story. I admire Barack's too. But this was plain stupid.  kennetha   Feb-18-08 03:19 PM   #80 
  - I respect that but you had to think about the other side. I deal with  NJObamaWoman   Feb-18-08 03:27 PM   #100 
     - I understand and agree!  kennetha   Feb-18-08 03:35 PM   #113 
     - Michelle has enjoyed all the fruits this country has to offer.  chimpymustgo   Feb-18-08 04:03 PM   #129 
  - Beautifully stated.... nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Feb-18-08 03:25 PM   #95 
  - To NJObamaWoman:  madaboutharry   Feb-18-08 04:18 PM   #145 
  - Hey bidenista  UALRBSofL   Feb-18-08 03:09 PM   #54 
  - We're Not Electing Barack's Wife  JPZenger   Feb-18-08 03:10 PM   #59 
  - Funny  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:12 PM   #62 
  - Yep, and just imagine how an Obama presidency will be! comics will love her!  cd3dem   Feb-18-08 07:43 PM   #169 
  - i used to wish it were her running instead of him. but now, not so much.  annie1   Feb-18-08 09:26 PM   #177 
  - funny stuff you post  madrchsod   Feb-18-08 03:12 PM   #63 
  - Whats' Out: Plagiarism What's In: Michelle Obama Hates America  Moochy   Feb-18-08 03:13 PM   #65 
  - Current smear? You mean, current GAFFE.  smalll   Feb-18-08 03:46 PM   #123 
     - Bonus points for using the word gaffe  Moochy   Feb-18-08 05:44 PM   #161 
  - Where is the boo boo?  BrentTaylor   Feb-18-08 03:14 PM   #68 
  - Where's the rest? Isn't this taking things a little out of context?  MISSDem   Feb-18-08 03:17 PM   #75 
  - out of context ? surely you jest...  madrchsod   Feb-18-08 03:29 PM   #102 
  - We're all Clintons now.  cottonseed   Feb-18-08 03:20 PM   #85 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-18-08 03:24 PM   #92 
     - That's not very nice.  cottonseed   Feb-18-08 03:27 PM   #99 
        - Nothing you've contributed to this forum has been nice  ruggerson   Feb-18-08 03:29 PM   #104 
           - I'm not the one smearing a guy's wife.  cottonseed   Feb-18-08 03:32 PM   #110 
              - How is reporting on a quote  ruggerson   Feb-18-08 03:59 PM   #128 
                 - It's a smear when you misquote the "quote".  cottonseed   Feb-18-08 06:57 PM   #163 
  - When should she have been proud of this country?  Truth Hurts A Lot   Feb-18-08 03:23 PM   #90 
  - hey sweetie---glad to have you back. and love your post.  rodeodance   Feb-18-08 03:24 PM   #91 
  - How nice of her. She's never been proud of this country? EVER? Until the Obama ran for prez?  in_cog_ni_to   Feb-18-08 03:24 PM   #93 
  - I swear, it has come to the point that "hope" is a dirty word.  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-18-08 03:25 PM   #94 
  - ditto (n/t)  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:38 PM   #119 
  - The hilarity, uppity snots thinking poverty was the work of the impoverished  nolabels   Feb-18-08 03:27 PM   #98 
  - yup.....  madrchsod   Feb-18-08 03:30 PM   #106 
  - I grew up in South Africa  tabatha   Feb-18-08 03:29 PM   #105 
  - I think many are missing  BumRushDaShow   Feb-18-08 03:30 PM   #108 
  - She should have said ...  kennetha   Feb-18-08 03:38 PM   #118 
     - That's what I mean  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:41 PM   #122 
     - I'm not understanding  BumRushDaShow   Feb-18-08 04:09 PM   #136 
  - Soon we won't have to listen to your crap. Can't wait.  Bonobo   Feb-18-08 03:35 PM   #112 
  - why did she hate America?  Enrique   Feb-18-08 03:37 PM   #116 
  - Texas?  gaspee   Feb-18-08 03:37 PM   #117 
  - wow  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-18-08 03:40 PM   #120 
  - I'm sorry, but how is this an issue? Other than you are another HillBot attempting to muddy the H20  NoodleyAppendage   Feb-18-08 03:46 PM   #124 
  - I dont like her "tone"  BigDDem   Feb-18-08 03:51 PM   #125 
  - That's exactly what Michelle and Barack said about Hillary. The same day, separate interviews.  Straight Shooter   Feb-18-08 05:34 PM   #160 
  - Wait a minute, now.  Lex Talionis   Feb-18-08 03:52 PM   #126 
  - So it's racist?  gaspee   Feb-18-08 04:17 PM   #144 
     - How did you get racist out of that?  Lex Talionis   Feb-18-08 05:03 PM   #157 
  - The last time I was PROUD of America (Americans)?  bvar22   Feb-18-08 03:55 PM   #127 
  - The last time I was PROUD of America (Americans)?  bvar22   Feb-18-08 04:08 PM   #135 
  - Who's the "them" you're referring to?  heraldsqure   Feb-18-08 04:09 PM   #138 
  - bomo  bidenista   Feb-18-08 04:14 PM   #141 
  - Michelle Obama--- a smug, self-serving political spouse. That'll be the headline.  Carrieyazel   Feb-18-08 04:36 PM   #150 
  - WTF?  RememberWellstone   Feb-18-08 04:45 PM   #154 
  - Wasn't she even a little proud when our country finally took it's blinders off and  madmom   Feb-18-08 04:57 PM   #155 
  - I Love My Country, But I Haven't Been Proud of It for a Long, Long Time.  justinaforjustice   Feb-18-08 05:27 PM   #158 
  - The media will give her a pass. Drudge already took it off the site. Maybe save till fall.  Freida5   Feb-18-08 07:23 PM   #165 
  - More straws  Khaotic   Feb-18-08 07:47 PM   #171 
  - I became an adult in the 1970s  proud2Blib   Feb-18-08 07:50 PM   #172 
  - "Patriotism is the most foolish of passions and the passion of fools." - Schopenhauer  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-18-08 07:56 PM   #173 
  - We say stuff like that all the time on DU  rucky   Feb-18-08 07:57 PM   #174 
  - I think she said "For the first time in my adult life, I'm REALLY  MS68   Feb-18-08 08:13 PM   #175 
     - Sorry, but that "REALLY" doesn't change things much for me. Still narcisistic.  robbedvoter   Feb-18-08 10:36 PM   #179 
        - I agree...just making sure the quote is accurate.  MS68   Feb-18-08 10:46 PM   #180 

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